Joseph West commented on Fox & Friends Anti-Obama Video Doesn't Cost "Rogue" Producer His Job
2012-06-02 02:09:34 -0400
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The previous commenters are forgetting the very obvious flip side to this story. If some producer at CNN or MSNBC at done the same kind of hit piece on Romney, you can be damned sure that FoxNoise would be clamoring 24/7 that the producer be fired for that “propaganda” (and, of course, both networks would cave in and fire the guy/gal within 72 hours of FoxNoise’s first hypocritical attack).
Joseph West commented on Bill O'Reilly, Laura Ingraham Pimp Pro-Life Propaganda & Praise Lila Rose's "Journalism"
2012-06-02 02:00:53 -0400
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Actually, Kevin, this bill was a rare case of requiring a 2/3 majority of those present and voting* to pass. (I believe I read that at ThinkProgress.) Since that means 290 votes (with a full House—pardon the pun), and the GOPers are currently about 50 votes shy of that number, they had no chance of getting this (latest) non-jobs-related bill through the House. (I just double-checked and found an article at Feministing.com that confirmed the 2/3 requirement. Apparently, the bill was being considered under a suspension of House rules.)
*I really don’t quite understand how this actually works. The final vote was 246 (Y), 168 (N) and 17 Not voting. If ALL those representatives were in the chamber (ie, “present”), does this mean that 288 votes were needed to pass (which is 2/3 of the total 431) or just 276 (2/3 of the 414 who actually voted)? At any rate, there weren’t enough GOPers to ensure passage (and there were actually 7 GOPers who voted against the bill and 8 GOPers who “didn’t” vote). And the 20 Dems who voted for this bill need to be voted out of office.
*I really don’t quite understand how this actually works. The final vote was 246 (Y), 168 (N) and 17 Not voting. If ALL those representatives were in the chamber (ie, “present”), does this mean that 288 votes were needed to pass (which is 2/3 of the total 431) or just 276 (2/3 of the 414 who actually voted)? At any rate, there weren’t enough GOPers to ensure passage (and there were actually 7 GOPers who voted against the bill and 8 GOPers who “didn’t” vote). And the 20 Dems who voted for this bill need to be voted out of office.
Joseph West commented on How Desperate Is Fox Nation To Smear Obama? So Desperate It Makes Steve Guttenberg's Criticisms Its Top Story
2012-06-01 02:53:31 -0400
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Well, maybe Mr Guttenberg could help out his “friend…. who’s got a $7 an hour job at Dunkin Donuts”—maybe by giving him the phone number for his local wage and hour office for starters? If his “friend” is only making $7/hour, I’m pretty sure that’s a violation of minimum wage laws. There are only 5 states that have no state minimum wage and 4 states plus Puerto Rico that have minimum wages lower than the state wage. This info comes from the US Dept of Labor’s website which also states, “Where Federal and state law have different minimum wage rates, the higher standard applies.” If a state has a higher-than-Federal wage—something which applies to 18 states plus DC—that wage prevails. Now, I’m not sure where Mr Guttenberg lives (or where his “friend” lives) but I’m pretty sure his “friend” has a damn good lawsuit over being paid below minimum-wage rates. It’s not like Dunkin Donuts is a restaurant where employees get tipped (there’s no Dunkin’ Donuts where I live but I’ve been to Dunkin’ Donuts when I’ve been on vacation and I’ve never seen a tip jar in one—maybe I’ve been in the wrong places?) and minimum wage doesn’t apply. It’s a fast-food joint—like McDonalds or Burger King.
Joseph West commented on Predictably, Fox News Showcases Former Democratic Congressman Turned Republican
2012-05-31 23:56:36 -0400
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Davis is a turncoat. This is the same man who, in his little campaign for Governor of Alabama 2 years ago, tried to OUT-CONSERVATIVE that opponent, Ron Sparks, whom he derides now for working for the GOP governor. He voted against the ACA—a program which would’ve benefited HIS district’s constituents far more than any other congressional district in the State (he represented Alabama’s 7th, the overwhelmingly African-American district which, coincidentally, is also the POOREST district in the entire state). Then, during the primary campaign, he purposely slammed the Alabama Democratic Conference (this is basically the state party’s African-American division), primarily to boost his “conservative cred”—to show that he wasn’t in the pocket of the ADC’s leaders. When he lost to Ron Sparks, he essentially accused state Democrats of “voting white” (as though he thought that he had a chance of winning over white GOP voters in the general election). Then, he refused to endorse Sparks, even refusing to offer the typical congratulatory concession speech. And, last year, reports surfaced of Davis’s contributing to GOP candidates in other states during 2010.
Artur Davis is scum. If he wins any future election, whoever elects him better be ready to enjoy an unprincipled piece of trash. IOW, he should fit in well with today’s GOP. (Although I strongly doubt he’ll win election as a GOPer. He’d have to have an incredibly weak GOP opponent running against him—one who wouldn’t be ready to remind GOP voters of his early support for Obama* and how many times he did vote for “liberal” causes. And if he had a GOP opponent that weak, he’d probably be in a Dem-leaning district that wouldn’t vote for him since he proved his turncoat status.)
*(Davis was one of the first elected officials outside of Illinois to endorse Obama’s presidential campaign.)
Artur Davis is scum. If he wins any future election, whoever elects him better be ready to enjoy an unprincipled piece of trash. IOW, he should fit in well with today’s GOP. (Although I strongly doubt he’ll win election as a GOPer. He’d have to have an incredibly weak GOP opponent running against him—one who wouldn’t be ready to remind GOP voters of his early support for Obama* and how many times he did vote for “liberal” causes. And if he had a GOP opponent that weak, he’d probably be in a Dem-leaning district that wouldn’t vote for him since he proved his turncoat status.)
*(Davis was one of the first elected officials outside of Illinois to endorse Obama’s presidential campaign.)
Joseph West commented on Juliet Huddy Suggests Pakistani Nationals Should Be Racially Profiled
2012-05-31 16:17:31 -0400
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I’m kind of curious but exactly how does one distinguish a Pakistani national from a national of, say, India?
There’s a YouTube video of “The Most Beautiful People of Pakistan” (at www.youtube.com /watch?v=2iokTP05Cco ;hopefully, the space before the “/” disabled the link). Even though I only watched 2 minutes of the 5-minute long clip, I have to admit many of the people in the piece don’t look all that different from many Latinos or even Kardashian-Americans (and quite a few could even pass as “good ol’ white ’Murkins”). And it only took me a few minutes to find that link (I started off with a search for “pakistan” then narrowed it to “people of pakistan”; the video was the 7th item in that search).
Now, of course, what was obviously ignored in all the anti-Pakistani ranting and raving is the fact that the main reason the doctor was arrested was because of RIGHT-WING Pakistani government corruption. Most of the Pakistani military supported bin Laden (which was the main reason that bin Laden was able to live in Pakistan so comfortably) and most of the Pakistani government leadership are concerned about keeping the “common people” under control—and the easiest way of doing that is to allow Islamist groups to have limited amounts of power at the local level, especially in the “tribal areas” along the border with Afghanistan. The hardcore Islamist groups don’t really have as much power in the rest of Pakistan (where they’re largely limited to social work but they’re also tempered by the larger societal framework—young people in the big cities, even in the poorest neighborhoods, aren’t as ready to abandon the things they like about “Western” culture simply in the name of “Islamic purity”*).
And let us not forget that, prior to the Taliban’s collapse following the US attack on Afghanistan, Pakistan was one of only 3 countries that not only recognized but also financially supported the Taliban regime (the other two were Saudi Arabia and the UAE—maybe the people of those two countries should also be racially profiled; whoops, FoxNoise can’t suggest that since one of the network’s principal investors is from Saudi Arabia—never mind, nothing to see here). And the Pakistani government has somewhat resented American interference in its foreign affairs; Pakistan had to be coerced into rescinding its recognition so the US could overfly the country to launch attacks on Afghanistan—the US didn’t really have any real access from the north because we didn’t have any bases set up in the the old Soviet -stans at the time (those came during the buildup and were planned to be little more than refueling stations**) and, for obvious reasons, the US couldn’t attack from Afghanistan’s west.
Of course, if FoxNoise’s favorite president—good ol’ Dumbya—hadn’t decided that he just wasn’t all that interested in capturing bin Laden after 2002, this whole tirade against Pakistan’s arrest and conviction would be for naught.
*(Sort of reminiscent of the old post-WWI song, “How Ya Gonna Keep ‘Em Down on the Farm After They’ve Seen Paree?”)
**(A bit ironically, some of those bases are in countries which are run by men just as ruthless as the Taliban—they just weren’t playing host to Osama which allowed them to be given “ally” status.)
There’s a YouTube video of “The Most Beautiful People of Pakistan” (at www.youtube.com /watch?v=2iokTP05Cco ;hopefully, the space before the “/” disabled the link). Even though I only watched 2 minutes of the 5-minute long clip, I have to admit many of the people in the piece don’t look all that different from many Latinos or even Kardashian-Americans (and quite a few could even pass as “good ol’ white ’Murkins”). And it only took me a few minutes to find that link (I started off with a search for “pakistan” then narrowed it to “people of pakistan”; the video was the 7th item in that search).
Now, of course, what was obviously ignored in all the anti-Pakistani ranting and raving is the fact that the main reason the doctor was arrested was because of RIGHT-WING Pakistani government corruption. Most of the Pakistani military supported bin Laden (which was the main reason that bin Laden was able to live in Pakistan so comfortably) and most of the Pakistani government leadership are concerned about keeping the “common people” under control—and the easiest way of doing that is to allow Islamist groups to have limited amounts of power at the local level, especially in the “tribal areas” along the border with Afghanistan. The hardcore Islamist groups don’t really have as much power in the rest of Pakistan (where they’re largely limited to social work but they’re also tempered by the larger societal framework—young people in the big cities, even in the poorest neighborhoods, aren’t as ready to abandon the things they like about “Western” culture simply in the name of “Islamic purity”*).
And let us not forget that, prior to the Taliban’s collapse following the US attack on Afghanistan, Pakistan was one of only 3 countries that not only recognized but also financially supported the Taliban regime (the other two were Saudi Arabia and the UAE—maybe the people of those two countries should also be racially profiled; whoops, FoxNoise can’t suggest that since one of the network’s principal investors is from Saudi Arabia—never mind, nothing to see here). And the Pakistani government has somewhat resented American interference in its foreign affairs; Pakistan had to be coerced into rescinding its recognition so the US could overfly the country to launch attacks on Afghanistan—the US didn’t really have any real access from the north because we didn’t have any bases set up in the the old Soviet -stans at the time (those came during the buildup and were planned to be little more than refueling stations**) and, for obvious reasons, the US couldn’t attack from Afghanistan’s west.
Of course, if FoxNoise’s favorite president—good ol’ Dumbya—hadn’t decided that he just wasn’t all that interested in capturing bin Laden after 2002, this whole tirade against Pakistan’s arrest and conviction would be for naught.
*(Sort of reminiscent of the old post-WWI song, “How Ya Gonna Keep ‘Em Down on the Farm After They’ve Seen Paree?”)
**(A bit ironically, some of those bases are in countries which are run by men just as ruthless as the Taliban—they just weren’t playing host to Osama which allowed them to be given “ally” status.)
Joseph West commented on Bret Baier Uses "Trivial" Transgender Bias Complaint To Bash Obama's DOJ?
2012-05-30 03:53:39 -0400
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Didi, I’d say it’s not a reflection of their inadequacies—it’s a reflection of their INABILITY to multitask. An inadequacy suggests they actually have the ability to do something, they simply aren’t good at it.
Joseph West commented on Fox Guest Says Raising Minimum Wage Would "Disproportionately Harm" Black Workers
2012-05-28 13:10:39 -0400
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Know how I know Riley’s lying?
FoxNoise don’t care nothin’ ’bout Black folks.
The REALITY is that raising minimum wage has always been about how much it hurts EMPLOYERS—that has ALWAYS been the GOP/right-wing story. And EVERY SINGLE TIME that the wage has gone up, there’s been almost no negative affect on employers nor has there been any substantial increase in the price of products. (The ONLY things that seriously affect the price of merchandise are transportation and weather. Transportation costs are tied in with energy costs, mainly oil and gas prices, and weather tends to affect food prices more than anything else, although clothing—especially that made from natural fibers like cotton and wool—can also be affected by weather factors. But folks working in these sectors who are being paid minimum wage will still be paid whatever they’re making regardless of how much the company charges.)
FoxNoise don’t care nothin’ ’bout Black folks.
The REALITY is that raising minimum wage has always been about how much it hurts EMPLOYERS—that has ALWAYS been the GOP/right-wing story. And EVERY SINGLE TIME that the wage has gone up, there’s been almost no negative affect on employers nor has there been any substantial increase in the price of products. (The ONLY things that seriously affect the price of merchandise are transportation and weather. Transportation costs are tied in with energy costs, mainly oil and gas prices, and weather tends to affect food prices more than anything else, although clothing—especially that made from natural fibers like cotton and wool—can also be affected by weather factors. But folks working in these sectors who are being paid minimum wage will still be paid whatever they’re making regardless of how much the company charges.)
Joseph West commented on Bill Hemmer Reinforces Cardinal Dolan's Objections To HHS Mandate
2012-05-24 11:57:57 -0400
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I guess Sen Coburn must’ve missed the fact that there are states which have passed laws allowing pharmacists to REFUSE to fill a prescription if they feel that the prescription would violate their (the pharmacists’) moral beliefs. IOW, if a MALE pharmacist has a “moral objection” to female birth control pills, he’s allowed BY LAW in many states to refuse to fill the prescription.
Joseph West commented on Fox News Alert: Hike Taxes On Investors And Kiss A Jobs Recovery Good-bye
2012-05-19 14:28:08 -0400
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It’s so funny that, after a DECADE of “tax cuts”* and very little economic growth in terms of JOB CREATION, these idiots can’t seem to understand that more tax cuts simply are not the answer.
The ONLY thing we’ve seen come from tax cuts is allowing the wealthy (those supposed job creators) taking their money and then (1) investing OVERSEAS followed by (2) buying politicians. And I’d challenge McDonald to show me who’s behind all those folks on K Street. I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that regular folks don’t have much impact on the K Street elite (and their fellow whores working DC’s other streets) but the people who benefit most from tax cuts do.
*A bit of a caveat: The Bush tax cuts MIGHT have been more successful if they’d been postponed after 9/11. (I dare say the success would’ve been even more if Dubya and his war criminal associates hadn’t decided to invade Iraq. And, in some parallel universe, there’s a USA where the tax cuts went into effect and 9/11 didn’t happen and there was no invasion of Iraq and ensuing war there, and the country is thriving. Heck, there may even be a parallel universe where the tax cuts happened and 9/11 happened and Iraq happened but THAT President Bush urged people to sacrifice for the war effort which led to more jobs being created. Of course, there’s also a parallel universe where Dubya and his Administration cronies and advisors were impeached or prosecuted in 2003 for their crimes connected with the war in Iraq, and the criminals’ personal fortunes were confiscated and used to pay off some of the government’s debt.)
The ONLY thing we’ve seen come from tax cuts is allowing the wealthy (those supposed job creators) taking their money and then (1) investing OVERSEAS followed by (2) buying politicians. And I’d challenge McDonald to show me who’s behind all those folks on K Street. I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that regular folks don’t have much impact on the K Street elite (and their fellow whores working DC’s other streets) but the people who benefit most from tax cuts do.
*A bit of a caveat: The Bush tax cuts MIGHT have been more successful if they’d been postponed after 9/11. (I dare say the success would’ve been even more if Dubya and his war criminal associates hadn’t decided to invade Iraq. And, in some parallel universe, there’s a USA where the tax cuts went into effect and 9/11 didn’t happen and there was no invasion of Iraq and ensuing war there, and the country is thriving. Heck, there may even be a parallel universe where the tax cuts happened and 9/11 happened and Iraq happened but THAT President Bush urged people to sacrifice for the war effort which led to more jobs being created. Of course, there’s also a parallel universe where Dubya and his Administration cronies and advisors were impeached or prosecuted in 2003 for their crimes connected with the war in Iraq, and the criminals’ personal fortunes were confiscated and used to pay off some of the government’s debt.)
Joseph West commented on Hannity Uses African-American Leaders to Bait Obama over Same-Sex Marriage Issue
2012-05-17 20:02:17 -0400
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Perhaps both Rev Jackson and Cain should’ve been reminded that as recently as 150 years ago both men COULD have been OWNED by Hannity and have been prohibited from getting married. Even if they did marry, Massa Hannity could still plow their “wives” and then sell them without so much as a by your leave.
Joseph West commented on Hannity Hoping To Use Rev. Wright To Paint Obama As A Crook
2012-05-17 19:42:41 -0400
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I think someone needs to send Oprah a copy of the video where Klein makes that accusation. For some reason, I think the prospect of a lawsuit in the 8 or 9 digit figure for slander and defamation of character would be enough for Klein to suddenly need a news show to make a public apology (and knowing Klein, he’d probably say he’d “heard” that from someone else and that he should’ve investigated the story before repeating it on national television).
Joseph West commented on Fox Nation Headline Refers To Elizabeth Warren As 'Fauxcahontas"
2012-05-16 23:50:48 -0400
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You know, Ellen, it used to be that to find stuff that was so utterly awful that it made you laugh, you’d have to wait for some of those old Z-movies (especially the horror and sci-fi ones) that would eventually wind up on Mystery Science Theatre 3000 (though they were often funnier when you could catch them on some syndicated series hosted by folks like Elvira or even the old “Creature Feature” programs; these were funnier because you’d get to make up your own running commentary and your own dialogue).
It’s kind of a shame that a website (passing as a “news” site) is taking the place of the movies. (Of course, there are sites like “The Onion,” but they’re being INTENTIONALLY funny and sarcastic. FoxNation isn’t.)
It’s kind of a shame that a website (passing as a “news” site) is taking the place of the movies. (Of course, there are sites like “The Onion,” but they’re being INTENTIONALLY funny and sarcastic. FoxNation isn’t.)
Joseph West commented on O’Reilly: I “Had To” Get Justice For White Victims In Virginia
2012-05-16 18:49:54 -0400
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O’Reilly blather: âAs you may know, The Factorâs been following the story because the media in Norfolk and the police were very reluctant to aggressively pursue the case so we had to in the name of justice.â
Whoops, Billyboy. I think you forgot to include someone in your list of folks who were “very reluctant to aggressively pursue the case.” To refresh your memory, the VICTIMS were also “very reluctant”—but I guess, the victims’ wishes are of less importance than your need to satisfy your overblown ego, isn’t that right, Billyboy?
Whoops, Billyboy. I think you forgot to include someone in your list of folks who were “very reluctant to aggressively pursue the case.” To refresh your memory, the VICTIMS were also “very reluctant”—but I guess, the victims’ wishes are of less importance than your need to satisfy your overblown ego, isn’t that right, Billyboy?
Joseph West commented on Steve Doocy Still Pimping Lie That Abortion Drugs Are Covered In HHS Mandate
2012-05-16 18:39:19 -0400
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Something I’d like the Catholic Church to explain is exactly HOW they know when “conception” takes place. Even without using contraception, simply having sexual intercourse doesn’t always lead to a fertilized egg (just ask all the hetero couples who schedule sex around the wife’s “fertile” period and still wind up with nothing to show for it after months and months of trying), so that’s obviously not it. Most women don’t know (or even suspect) they’re pregnant for days or weeks after the egg has implanted by which time emergency contraception can be a bit useless (and they still don’t really know when “conception” took place—at best, it’s a judgment call in terms of a particular day, but NOT the hour, much less the minute of conception; heck, a really frisky couple could’ve engaged in multiple acts of intercourse during the presumed day, so “conception” could have taken place at minute 13 of a 7-hour lovemaking session).
What’s truly funny about the whole “pregnancy begins at the moment of conception” deal is that it has NO biblical precedent. Most women of the era (aside from the “lucky few” who got a “special visit” from God or some angel telling them they would get “with child”) didn’t even know they were expecting until their midsections started expanding outward. Hell, until just a couple hundred years ago, the official Church teaching was that there was no “conception” as we understand it. The Church believed that the man’s “seed” was planted inside the woman (the prevailing theory was that each sperm was actually a fully-formed little human being that needed to be inside a woman’s body to get bigger).
If it weren’t for science, the whole anti-abortion movement (which otherwise seems to frown on anything science) would have a hard time justifying their position.
What’s truly funny about the whole “pregnancy begins at the moment of conception” deal is that it has NO biblical precedent. Most women of the era (aside from the “lucky few” who got a “special visit” from God or some angel telling them they would get “with child”) didn’t even know they were expecting until their midsections started expanding outward. Hell, until just a couple hundred years ago, the official Church teaching was that there was no “conception” as we understand it. The Church believed that the man’s “seed” was planted inside the woman (the prevailing theory was that each sperm was actually a fully-formed little human being that needed to be inside a woman’s body to get bigger).
If it weren’t for science, the whole anti-abortion movement (which otherwise seems to frown on anything science) would have a hard time justifying their position.
Joseph West commented on Todd Starnes Thinks All Terrorists Are Muslims?
2012-05-15 15:14:22 -0400
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I’m confused. I thought you had to HAVE a heart in order to have heart surgery.
I also hate to break it to Starnes, but unless he has a SKIN transplant (with a donation from several pigs), he’s not going to stop a Muslim terrorist from doing anything to him personally. Muslims (like Jews, by the way) are only prohibited from eating and touching pigs or porcine products. Unless his heart (which I still don’t believe he has) is on the outside of his body, a Muslim (or a Jew) can still touch him—for whatever reason. And, I should remind the fool that a group of (incidentally) Muslim terrorists managed to kill more than 3000 people on 9/11 without ever having to come in personal contact with them. Starnes could easily face the same situation. That theoretical pig valve won’t “insulate” him from a suicide bomber (whether of the Muslim variety, as with the 9/11 guys, or the Christian whackjob variety, such as Timothy McVeigh).
I also hate to break it to Starnes, but unless he has a SKIN transplant (with a donation from several pigs), he’s not going to stop a Muslim terrorist from doing anything to him personally. Muslims (like Jews, by the way) are only prohibited from eating and touching pigs or porcine products. Unless his heart (which I still don’t believe he has) is on the outside of his body, a Muslim (or a Jew) can still touch him—for whatever reason. And, I should remind the fool that a group of (incidentally) Muslim terrorists managed to kill more than 3000 people on 9/11 without ever having to come in personal contact with them. Starnes could easily face the same situation. That theoretical pig valve won’t “insulate” him from a suicide bomber (whether of the Muslim variety, as with the 9/11 guys, or the Christian whackjob variety, such as Timothy McVeigh).
Joseph West commented on Bill O'Reilly Wants Respect For His Anti-Gay Marriage Bigotry?
2012-05-15 15:05:55 -0400
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I wonder how O’Reilly would react if someone had a line of shirts that had messages like “My Daddy Uses Me as a Punching Bag, But I Still Love Him” or “I Love My Mommy and My Daddy and The Postman and Mommy’s Golf Instructor and My Daddy’s Secretary With the Big Hooters and My Parish Priest (Who Says I’m Not Supposed to Tell Anyone What We Do)?” Somehow, I don’t think O’Reilly would be quite as pleased with THESE statements of hetero reality.
Joseph West commented on One Percenter Donald Trump Talks Up Benefits Of Being A Laid-Off Steelworker And Smears Cher As “A Loser”
2012-05-15 02:41:49 -0400
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To the Donald: I’d rather spend a solid week listening to Cher’s WORST EVER songs than to have to listen to even one minute of your whiny sorry ass mewlings.
And, for someone who has no REAL talent for ANYTHING to be slamming Cher and Rosie as having little-to-no talent, well, Mr Never-Had-to-Make-Any-Money-On-My-Own, that takes stupidity to a new high. (It’s just too bad that Osama bin Laden didn’t think enough of Trump to get someone to fly a plane into some of Trump’s properties.)
And, for someone who has no REAL talent for ANYTHING to be slamming Cher and Rosie as having little-to-no talent, well, Mr Never-Had-to-Make-Any-Money-On-My-Own, that takes stupidity to a new high. (It’s just too bad that Osama bin Laden didn’t think enough of Trump to get someone to fly a plane into some of Trump’s properties.)
Joseph West commented on Fox Priest Fr. Jonathan Morris Weighs In On 10 Commandments "Controversy"
2012-05-14 15:01:22 -0400
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What I would love to see is for all these 10 Commandment lovers get together and figure out WHOSE 10 Commandments gets to be posted.
While FoxNoise has an overabundance of Catholics (not just among its paid bobbleheads, but also its quasi-official religious spokesman), I’d be willing to bet the majority of the network’s viewers are Protestant evangelicals. The Catholic interpretation of the Big 10 differs from the Protestant interpretation (Catholics interpret “I am the Lord” as the First Commandment and the injunction on graven images as the Second while Protestants interpret those as a single Commandment; conversely, Catholics regard all “coveting” as the 10th while Protestants split the coveting into two separate Commandments—one dealing with someone’s “house,” the other dealing with everything else).
And, of course, Jesus only highlights 5 of these 10 as really important (honor mom and dad, no murder, no adultery, no stealing, no false witness; per Matthew 19: 16-19) and Paul—the guy whose words seem to be considered MORE important by the Evangelical right-wingers—even reiterates this (Romans 13: 8-10).
And I guess we really don’t need to bring up the SECOND recounting of the Ten Commandments (the first being the rendering in Exodus 20). The arrangement of the Deuteronomy 5 version isn’t all that different from the Exodus account but some wording is different (the first version starts off with not coveting your neighbor’s house—which the Catholics count as a separate Commandment—while the second version begins with “not desiring” your neighbor’s wife before the “not coveting” anything else) and there’s a whole line reminding the Hebrews of their time as Egyptian slaves (oddly, the first version uses the Creation account as the reason for a Sabbath day while the second, using the reminder of slavery, seems to explain why your “servants” should get a “day of rest,” especially as the servants are the last on the list of to whom the Sabbath observation extends).
Even the usual depiction of the two tablets seems to be incorrect according to some theologies. Jewish traditions suggest the original two tablets were, essentially, God’s original and Moses’ copy (just why God would give Moses both copies isn’t really explained; I know when I sign an agreement, I just get one copy and the other party keeps their copy—I don’t get to take their copy and show it off). Per this interpretation, ALL of the “Ten Commandments” were written on just one tablet.
But, in the long run, I just wonder where the Ten Commandments is posted in the FoxNoise building? Has anyone ever seen a PROMINENTLY displayed copy in the studio? Do any of the bobbleheads have their own personal copies in their wallets? If the 10 Commandments is good enough to be posted in schools and courthouses, then the document certainly deserves to be prominently displayed in the FoxNoise studios (and routinely shown off to the rubes).
While FoxNoise has an overabundance of Catholics (not just among its paid bobbleheads, but also its quasi-official religious spokesman), I’d be willing to bet the majority of the network’s viewers are Protestant evangelicals. The Catholic interpretation of the Big 10 differs from the Protestant interpretation (Catholics interpret “I am the Lord” as the First Commandment and the injunction on graven images as the Second while Protestants interpret those as a single Commandment; conversely, Catholics regard all “coveting” as the 10th while Protestants split the coveting into two separate Commandments—one dealing with someone’s “house,” the other dealing with everything else).
And, of course, Jesus only highlights 5 of these 10 as really important (honor mom and dad, no murder, no adultery, no stealing, no false witness; per Matthew 19: 16-19) and Paul—the guy whose words seem to be considered MORE important by the Evangelical right-wingers—even reiterates this (Romans 13: 8-10).
And I guess we really don’t need to bring up the SECOND recounting of the Ten Commandments (the first being the rendering in Exodus 20). The arrangement of the Deuteronomy 5 version isn’t all that different from the Exodus account but some wording is different (the first version starts off with not coveting your neighbor’s house—which the Catholics count as a separate Commandment—while the second version begins with “not desiring” your neighbor’s wife before the “not coveting” anything else) and there’s a whole line reminding the Hebrews of their time as Egyptian slaves (oddly, the first version uses the Creation account as the reason for a Sabbath day while the second, using the reminder of slavery, seems to explain why your “servants” should get a “day of rest,” especially as the servants are the last on the list of to whom the Sabbath observation extends).
Even the usual depiction of the two tablets seems to be incorrect according to some theologies. Jewish traditions suggest the original two tablets were, essentially, God’s original and Moses’ copy (just why God would give Moses both copies isn’t really explained; I know when I sign an agreement, I just get one copy and the other party keeps their copy—I don’t get to take their copy and show it off). Per this interpretation, ALL of the “Ten Commandments” were written on just one tablet.
But, in the long run, I just wonder where the Ten Commandments is posted in the FoxNoise building? Has anyone ever seen a PROMINENTLY displayed copy in the studio? Do any of the bobbleheads have their own personal copies in their wallets? If the 10 Commandments is good enough to be posted in schools and courthouses, then the document certainly deserves to be prominently displayed in the FoxNoise studios (and routinely shown off to the rubes).
Joseph West commented on Stephen Colbert Mocks Hannity And The Anti-Obama Painting
2012-05-13 02:24:32 -0400
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Um, I don’t get Hannity’s “plan.” The last time I checked, museums are under NO obligation to exhibit any painting, especially by a relatively obscure propagandist.
Joseph West commented on Limbaugh Attacks Shep Smith Over Gay Marriage Support
2012-05-13 02:05:59 -0400
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Patrick, I think the reason why “the right-wing seems always at, or wishing to be at, war with some one or something” is because the majority of them haven’t actually been in a REAL war. Granted this doesn’t explain folks like Allen “War Criminal” West, but it DOES explain a sizable chunk of the FoxNoise brigade and Rush Limbaugh.