A conversation between Megyn Kelly and D.L. Hughley got rather heated as they discussed race and the police killing of African American Philando Castile.
The discussion occurred after Kelly had spoken with Mark Fuhrman on the subject. Kelly has frequently turned to Fuhrman, a proven racist, as a supposedly neutral expert on racially sensitive cases. It's a slap in the face of African Americans. Finally, someone has spoken up.
“I didn’t know Mark Fuhrman was gonna be here,” Hughley said. Then he challenged Fuhrman’s accusation that Castile’s girlfriend, who recorded his death, was a liar: “I think that cops have a different perspective than us. ANd I think it was interesting to hear from Mark Fuhrman, who was, actually got in trouble for perjuring himself, call somebody a lair. It’s ridiculous to me.”
Fuhrman didn’t just commit perjury, he did so by claiming not to have used a racial slur within the past 10 years.
The two began sparring about the presumption of innocence. Hughley maintained that police get a presumption of innocence that African Americans don’t get.
KELLY: We saw this happen with Michel Brown in Ferguson:
HUGHLEY:And we still don’t know the facts there. We have the police officer’s word and the grand jury’s word.
KELLY: No we have the Department of Justices’ word. ...The Department of Justice found that the police there had endemic racism. But they also exonerated Officer Darren Wilson. [Kelly raised her voice] and they found that hands up don’t shoot was a lie! And that Michael Brown was the aggressor!
HUGHLEY: Wow, wow.
That’s when things got nasty.
“Don’t wow me,” Kelly snapped. “That’s what they found.”
"I can say wow if I want to!" Hughley retorted.
Kelly got even snippier as they moved on to argue over the Department of Justice report about Ferguson. Kelly argued, basically, that the report found Wilson had been justified in shooting and killing Brown. Then, when Hughley noted the DOJ also found shocking patterns of racism on the part of the Ferguson police Kelly complained, “That’s a dodge! I already conceded that, D.L.!”
Hughley made a bold statement: “The only place racism doesn’t exist is Fox News and the police department.”
“Come on, that’s insulting,” Kelly replied. “You just insulted millions of people watching this channel.”
Hughley fired right back, “And you know what? I’m insulted by the things I hear on this network, so we’re even. I could care less about insulting people that insult me on a daily basis.”
Kelly conceded that whites see incidents differently than blacks do, as seen in the O.J. Simpson case.
However, she also lectured, “It’s very dangerous when you get to the point where you paint an entire group with the same brush based on the bad actions of a few.”
“That is amazing to hear on this network,” Hughley countered. “That really is. Amazing to hear on this network.”
He is right, considering Fox regularly demonizes Black Lives Matter because of some nasty chants said by one group of protesters that Fox deliberately suggests represents the whole group.
Kelly abruptly ended the segment with a hostile, “Thanks for being here. Take care.”
Watch it below, from the July 13 The Kelly File.