You are pitiful, keep sucking in the liberal sumes and soon you will be retarded, the BLS states the lowest participation rate in 38 years the actual unemployment rate is approximately a conservative 10%, you state ideas but not facts, you state judgments but not facts, You know I tried to read your post but it would have made as much sense if I hung upside down and read it in a mirror. I know this labored thinking is probably harming you so you should just give it a rest and leave things like this to people of intelligence. Nice try with the BLS I just read it a few days ago.

“Another liberal academic that will use theory to confuse the reality.”

The listed and accepted definitions of a political conservative and a political liberal, with examples… isn’t fact to Gerald. Things I told him he can Google aren’t fact. Examples of what’s going on now aren’t fact.

But braying rhetoric like “employment is not down, because they aren’t counting people who aren’t looking”… Apparently is fact, even though

A) that’s a discredited statement, that was so easily discredited, they did it just by reading a BLS report out loud, and

B) it was a theory before it was disproven. Nice to know that calling something a theory can discredit it to Gerald, but being an actual discredited theory doesn’t even slow him down when it’s his own yap running. And what’s this shit about full time/ Part time? Did Gerald just never read a BLS report? It talks about full time, part time, and seasonal hirings all in depth, and what they mean as a trend for the quarter.

That’s part of how simply reading one of these things destroyed that load, Gerald- Because the biggest part of the claim is right on one, (sometimes literally) in red ink.

This isn’t just biased, misinformed, or uneducated on the issues- This is straight up “It’s only a fact if it serves my prejudice!”. I’m done with this- Life’s too short to hear crap I debunked years ago thrown back at me. Especially from someone who acts like being educated is an insult, and that the word “theory” is an excuse to just double down on what he chose to believe, instead of asking why.

@randy stemen growing yes from the bottomless pit of a recession, but this is the worst recovery in history, Unemployment is not down because they are not counting the workers that have given up looking, further people are under employed which still counts as employed, so someone that used to work full time is now working part time but that still counts as employed, the actual unemployment rate is actually more like 10% or better and that is the conservative estimate. While corporate profits have been high, they are investing money outside the country, Globalization is taking it’s toll, hiring and creating jobs in this country is too expensive., Tax rates on smaller businesses are not as beneficial, as well as forced benefit costs like Obama Care. Obama Care has been a job crusher, small businesses can’t grow under the expense. The huge driving portion of this economy that is coming from mom and pop shops is languishing. Other businesses like doctors have closed shop, I knew of 2 doctors offices that closed and I live in a small suburb they said that couldn’t handle the cost of Obama Care, my mother in law is a med tech that’s how I knew why they closed, she worked for them, she has now just thrown in the towel and retired early. As far as the solution, sounds good in theory but just immigration will just flood the market with workers, with no jobs being created for them, they will be on the public dole. No the answer is to loosen up the regulations and requirements of businesses so free up capital, lower tax rates on small cap mom and pop businesses. Stop attempting to create a socialist state, we are not Britain or Canada, these things don’t work here. The amount of that that we have appears to be more then we can afford the way our system works. I think certain organizations are hampering many things like the EPA, which is regulating the shit out of everything, I like the navigable waterway thing that’s just great. It is however unlikely any democrat and to be fair most of the republicans, who have lost their way, would do anything to stop the filling of the money trough. So I think we have a weak chance at best to survive this and still be the same country.

@randy stemen I am going to ignore the ridiculous statements made regarding talking points, I can flesh out everything I said, but did you see the posts I was answering? they were in some cases far less cohesive then mine, I will answer the one question you asked as I don’t take the posters on this far left rag seriously.As far as work participation rate what you are saying makes a difference in this economy where nothing is growing, the amount of retired people is by nature going to increase therefore the working economy has to grow at an increasing rate, this economy of Obama’s is stagnant, every good month is followed by corrections calculation, he has forced the population down into a lot of part time work, the fastest growing industry is the government. In a good economy it should be a variety of businesses with an emphasis on new startup and small businesses, because this is not happening there are not enough NEW to support the population which continues to grow, and he wants to add 5 Million illegals. So people retire and there jobs are filled but we are not adding enough actual NEW growth.

@randy Stemen boy that statement confounded me, I am at a loss you win…. NOT

@aria prescott I do have to address one thing though, what is more logical? That a bunch of politicians split up over a major issue like slavery with irreconcilable differences and went to their respective corners or they didn’t split up or change voted on a bunch of racial and slavery issues then everyone hurried up and switched sides, to what? Confuse the issue?, to mysteriously hide their intent?, that is like the stupidest thing I have ever heard. That in itself is just too convenient a story from the left to help rid them of their racist past, sorry that dog don’t hunt and wouldn’t for anyone with half a brain. Don’t give up your day job. :) Owe and to close here is a quote from that president of the civil rights President Lyndon Banes Johnson a democrat “These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference… I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years”. This is in itself the beginning of the democratic chains that they tied around the necks of the black community. Notice the part where he said to give them something but not enough to make a difference.

@aria Prescott, nice try . Another liberal academic that will use theory to confuse the reality, 1 the democrats are the democrats, 2 Republicans are Republicans, you can stop this using the word liberal or conservative in a academic sense your not doing your fucking thesis. History is what it is, so now your going to drag in voting id’s trying to say we are trying to exclude, see how they are! this is not the case. If your legal get a fucking id, as big and as poor as India is 1.25 billion people every one who votes has an id, areas in this country said they would give the fucking id for free. So it is pointless, we just want you to be an actual citizen and not a voter located by the folks from acorn. The democrats want this because with all the gift giving it buys a lot of love, all the immigrants will vote for them as they are getting free shit, their friends get to stay fuck Obama was promising free tickets to museums and other entertainment.
Now this: "Redistricting? Making the ID law argument about black voters? The “free stuff” argument? Proposing bringing back the tests for blacks? This has all happened in the last two years, and you know which party’s doing it? " don’t stop your on a roll, what the fuck are you babbling about? Your just making inflammatory statements to fill space, which is usually empty in between the ears of liberals. How does anyone answer all this BS, but I am guessing that is the point, to throw so much shit and I do say shit at the wall that something will stick. You obviously are so drunk on the koolaid that you will never find your way back, so be happy in lala land as I am not going to argue with someone that makes half arguments and tons of disconnected statements, you have no point, there is no focus to what you wrote, it runs all over the map, like some lunatic rant. I know your angry it is the perpetual state of the liberals. As fas anything this country has been under a far left democrat for 6.5 years and it is fallen to shit, the middle class shrunk, the average income shrunk but OOOOOh we have Obama Care, and my coverage is now worse but I pay 30% more and my deductibles have doubled. It is not even arguable that race relations are worse sense he got into office, we have more people per capita on assistance then at anytime outside of the great depression. The work participation rate that came out last month shows that it is the worst in 38 years. So how great is that democracy? How is the savior democrat Barack Obama? I am glad they are so good at what we do, if not we might be on our way to be just like Greece, Oh wait we are. Over 40% of the money this country pays every month is interest on the money we owe. This administration has spent more money then all, I said ALL other presidents combined, we are for all intents and purposes broke, they just keep lending us money hoping we will pull out of it. You know what’s funny the bubble that burst that crashed the economy was laws enacted by a democrat BIll Clinton, but funnier is we didn’t learn our lesson and the real estate bubble is back and at some point it will burst again.

Gerald doesn’t know the difference between a party an an ideology. That’s the only explanation for his insanely stupid rant on Republican history. Let’s try a real approach:

A liberal (or, to a lesser extent, a progressive) is someone that advances us to keep moving forward, to not be complacent with the state of society, because there are always elements where it needs to be improved.

A conservative (or, to a greater extent, a Libertarian) is someone who thinks things are just fine the way they are, often because they have the long end of the stick, and are afraid any degree of change or social justice will take a slice from their pie. The only change they want is ones they personally benefit from.

Republicans and Democrats are two parties- Both of which have been on both sides of the fence, more than once. Both sides have ever walk of political life, it’s just who has more of what. And you can say A is a hypocrite on this, B is a hypocrite on that, but here’s the thing: Saying that is proof that you don’t want to look at what’s going on now.

Them: Democrats were against the black vote leading up to the 14th amendment! That proves their racism!

Me: Redistricting? Making the ID law argument about black voters? The “free stuff” argument? Proposing bringing back the tests for blacks? This has all happened in the last two years, and you know which party’s doing it?

Politics is a “Now” medium- When you catch them, you deal with it NOW. When someone brings up the past, the question is if it’s still happening NOW. Do they still support that NOW? Do they regret how it ended NOW?

And it’s funny how Gerald is repeating the whole “Democrats voted against Civil Rights” meme, because I seem to remember trolls trying that a while back, and I linked them to the 1965 and 1967 votes- Democrat majorities, and even transposing the numbers, a far larger number of Democrats voted for them than against them. And, as said before… Almost every Republican for it became a Democrat. Almost Every Democrat against it became a Republican.

Democrats have put the racist beats of their past behind them, and distance themselves from racists in their ranks when they out one. Republicans not only embrace their racism, but they promote it. Donald Trump made incredibly racist comments and proposals, he’s leading the polls by three points. The other candidates are making racist comments and proposals to match him, and it’s closing the gap.

Any thoughts on that, Gerald? Or do you wanna sit around and talk history that the newest item is about to turn 70, while proving you don’t know the difference between political platforms and ideology?

And one last thing: Good for you on that you’d have voted for Ben Carson. I’m sure you’ll remember how often you tell people that when you cast your vote for Donald Trump, or Scott Walker- Just like all the other early Primary screamers that claim Carson’s their man, but don’t support any of his pages on social media, and only trumpet Trump/Walker, until they’re called on the more racist parts of both men’s platforms. I’m sure Carson appreciates the shit out of that kind of support.

@steve st john you are absolutely incorrect, this is the over simplification we get all time from the academic left sot ath they can rest assured they belong to the right cult. I explained exactly what happened, the Whigs split as did the democrats, the individuals from each party that were pro abolition came together and formed the Republicans, the Whigs faded away as not enough was left and what was left of the democrats became the racist folks that we know and love. This is history, this is fact, I know it looks funny, but it is just because you are not used to the truth, I get it. Just stick with it and you will soon be bathed in the light of reality. You won’t have to be pissed all the time and might actually enjoy your fellow man. Have a nice day :)

@wd that what you think happened you lefties are so completly delusional, nice try, Hahahaha, I love it when your arguments show the intelligence of a 5th grader, which is what I have come to expect from the academic left, the bubble people

So you name one guy and that’s your answer the whole problem of why the democrats are the most racist party in the country? If what you are saying is true how does that effect the votes prior to that point that gave the blacks freedom, citizenship, voting rights or fact that the democrats formed the KKK? What you mentioned only came after all of that, so??? How does your argument even if it was true, which it is not, mean anything?
You don’t have a clue and I love how the first thing a whining fringe lefty does is start calling people names right at the get go, to intimidate, they never have actual facts, so name calling is the first option, that and party taking points. But because they don’t know the whole truth their arguments never hold up for long. So they make the conversation unpalatable with the hope that they win by forfeit. The Civil Rights act LOSER was voted down by LBJ when he was a senator, when he became president the republican party passed the bill, since they had a majority he decided to take the win and take credit for it. But he originally voted against it. and again what does this have to do with all the votes before this, what you said has no bearing on the argument whatsoever like so much the whining left does. Let’s get rid of the confederate flag, lets spend tons of money with people protesting and lawmakers in congress debating etc etc etc fucking etc, and not one child will be fed from this, not one minority will get a job from this, the left is all about rhetoric and symbols, it allows them to say they did something without doing anything. Big Deal you attacked a flag an won, Yea! No actual forward movement at all, but the left doesn’t want that they want the black to stay in chains.

Fox’s slogan is “the most trusted name in news.”

Hence, when you ask a viewer “who is the most trusted name in news?” They will answer the outlet who uses it as their slogan.

That’s what an advertising slogan does: it gets in people’s heads, but it’s not “true”.

Gawd, how many fu*&ing times do we have to tell these wingnuts that the Democrats and Republicans post-Civil Rights Act are completely different than what they were before it? Or do they just do it to aggravate us?

Hey Gerald, you asswipe. Those racist Democrats you love to point out switched to the GOP after LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. Remember Jesse Helms? He started out as a Democrat until he was convinced by Nixon to switch parties as part of his Southern Strategy. Today’s racists reside mostly in the Republican party.

Nice try at twisting history around. But you fail, asswipe, because you are not a very smart person.

What are you even talking about, they were blaming the cops from the first minute, but obviously you watch the left based news coverage. And truthfully I don’t care how many cops you got in your life, maybe birds of a feather, so what you knew bad cops big deal, I was a musician I got profiled my whole young life, searched every stop, every traffic ticket. So what? Big Deal, they were doing what they had to do, now you got them scared and look at the streets now, crime is up as much as 50-100% in some areas. Like I said I am sure the loved ones of the dead will agree wholeheartedly with your handling of the situation. What the left did made things worse, you don’t tell people that they shouldn’t listen to the police, that is common f**** sense. This is the whole problem right now with society, children are not taught to respect authority at all, So if they don’t respect their parents why should they respect the police, especially when that racist shit in office tells them that the cops are the ones that are misbehaving, and the conman himself Al Sharpton reaffirms this at every step. What I like about Al, is that if there was no more of a race problem he would be out of work, so he inflames it, this is how he makes his money and he convinces the black community to RISE UP, not to be calm and let’s find out what happened, he prejudged every example that we are talking about, before the police and the courts could do their job, this way he didn’t waste a chance to inflame the situation. He liked it, he’s back in the game. This is why you didn’t see him race to the Steinle’s there is no profit in it. Obama instructed DHS and ICE back off of immigrants, so he is not going to go to the Steinle’s either, that would make him a hypocrite. San Francisco is a sanctuary city so they can’t show up, that would be awkward.

So what does the left do, they promote lawlessness and you know what, people get hurt, but see the left loves this, they love to divide the people it doesn’t matter if it is race or sexual orientation or religion they love it, then people don’t rely on themselves they rely on the government. People united are strong divided are weak and easy to control. In the end you don’t give them a problem, they won’t arrest you, but I understand the left and common sense are strangers.

“As for ratings? Remember when Fox came in dead last for coverage of Reagan’s funeral? how they’re usually last, or close to last for major trial verdicts? How they almost never score above 4th for major House addresses because people know they’ll only show a small portion of it? Yeah… Fox News never sweeps the ratings on development of a real story, they’ve even had weeks where some shows lost 3 or 4 days the weeks of those stories in the ratings… " this entire paragraph is un-adulterated BS and don’t quote some shit from the rag we are writing in, I gave you 2 examples one from left leaning author neither from FOX and they completely contradict you. You need to stop making up bs for the left, you need to stop drinking the koolaid, who do do you think is watching and trusting FOX (according to rating from independent agencies the majority of the country meaning not you and your lunatic fringe)"

Let’s remember a bit about the left, all of this you can google.

The republican party was formed from the Whig party and the people that left the democratic party to fight for the abolishment of slavery, so the repbulican party was formed to fight slavery, so

The democrats brought us the KKK.
They brought us “Planned Parenthood” through it’s founder Margaret Sanger an advocate for Eugenics, you know what that is right? the controlled decision of what children live and die to further improve the gene pool. (look it up she is a sweetie) Recently the organization was just caught selling baby parts (well makes sense considering) read up on her, wonderful woman, a democrat., Hillary said she is inspiring.

The democrats voted against:

The abolishment of slavery
The right for blacks to become citizens
The right for blacks to vote
The Civil Rights Act

The only thing that the democrats do for the black community is give them another set of chains.

Welfare and other programs that do not further the ambition to succeed and take care of yourself. They want them living off the gifts from the government, this guarantees their loyalty.

They have convinced the black community that they are the party for them, imagine that, after that history, they are some incredibly talented liars. So now it has gotten to the point that they just know who the black community is going to vote for, they take them for granted. Like I said another set of chains. It is so bad that as soon as some black person actually thinks for themselves and votes conservative they are outcast, intimidated, called uncle tom and other unsavory monikers. So go ahead and keep repeating the doctrine of the peoples socialist republic of America. They will love you for it, as they reach into your back pocket for your wallet.

Gerald, How about we compare Steinle to McKinney?

When McKinney happened, they called on a locally known racist, who had been arrested multiple times- Once for torturing animals, and let him paint all black people as thugs for 15 minutes. That’s literally their coverage, since they used his word to continue their coverage, long after he was discredited.

When Steinle happened, they ignored every tough question like how he was on criminal probation instead of prison or deportation for his fifth felony drug offense in Texas (it was his second felony offense there,) how he was allowed to go to San Francisco while on criminal probation, why he wasn’t shipped back to Texas to face parole violation charges, how he obtained the gun… But it sure did allow them to say that trump’s racist generalizations of Mexicans is right, so let’s start cutting all existing reforms and amnesty! In fact, that’s all I really see their coverage doing.

Oh, and regarding your BS about the poor, persecuted police? The majority of important people in my life are affiliated with the police, and I’ve met a lot of cops in my day. A lot of them are high school bullies with a badge, and when a Wilson/Panteleo/Slager cop gets promoted to or above a certain position, turning a blind to profiling/violence becomes a job requirement. You ignore it until it’s news, and when it’s news, you don’t speak up. It’s their version of “bros before hos.”

As for ratings? Remember when Fox came in dead last for coverage of Reagan’s funeral? how they’re usually last, or close to last for major trial verdicts? How they almost never score above 4th for major House addresses because people know they’ll only show a small portion of it? Yeah… Fox News never sweeps the ratings on development of a real story, they’ve even had weeks where some shows lost 3 or 4 days the weeks of those stories in the ratings… Yet were still somehow named #1, anyways. And funny how “ratings” never matter," and “the left is obsessed with ratings” when we ask how a show like say, Hannity could come in 2nd or 3rd 60% of the business week, yet be named 1st, anyways, as opposed to the show that beat him those three days- While crowing about Hannity being #1 for another week.

Yeah, imagine that. It’s almost like people only tune in for the barnyard.

Gerald, you crack me up too. Just because Fox watchers trust Fox, doesn’t mean Fox News is trustworthy. It means that the geriatrics who get their news from Fox aren’t very discerning. A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed. Readers of The New York Times, USA Today and listeners to National Public Radio were better informed about international events than other media outlets.

You know you guys crack me, so O’Reilley is EXPLOITING the Steinle killing? Even though it brings attention to the need for immigration reform, or is it just cause it’s FOX?, you guys are such losers, so was it EXPLOITATION when the left used Eric Garner and Michael Brown to beat the public endlessly for months over the head with the “Black lives Matter” cause? We had Vigils, Presidential visits, DOJ visits, Al Sharpton, etc etc etc no one came for the Steinle’s family, No special attention for this sweet girls death, her last words being “Help me dad” as she dies reaching forher father. Bit of a double standard, she wasn’t black, there is no political statement to exploit here. And if the admin did get involved they would have to acknowledge that it happened because of his immigration policies and the failure of a sanctuary city. Also just because I am on a roll, now that you have driven home the idea that the police are evil? With cases like Michael Brown and Eric Garner, great job by the way, cops are now afraid to do their jobs as you have effectively empowered the criminal, and crime rates in major cities are skyrocketing, I am sure that the loved ones of the dead in places like Chicago, Baltimore and other places will be clinging on to the idea that “Black Lives Matter” with the fact that their loved ones were killed by black gang members. I never read this publication but the fact that there is a whole publication dedicated to attempting to discredit FOX means that the left fears them, I guess that’s because FOX IS right, FOX has the highest trust-ability ratings in the industry as was just recently reported by the “Washington Post” even counting networks like ABC, CBS,NBC and the cable shows like CNN, MSNBC etc. It has the highest viewership in cable news, Bill O’Reilley as been the number one spot in cable news for 60 quarters.

Here is the Washington Post Polls results

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/09/fox-news-is-the-most-trusted-national-news-channel-and-its-not-that-close/

Here is Quinnipac University Poll Results

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2173

So apparently not many people share your rather liberal( pun intended) approach to the truth.

So your statements are another example of the left and how it attempts to manipulate and defame anyone that disagrees with their far left progressive agenda. FOX has the viewership to enlighten people to the malevolent practices of the left and it’s followers, I would daresay the left at points looks like a cult, especially when you see (choke cough sputter) reporting like this.

Once again, Bully O’Lielly and his faithful toady Jesse Watters have shown that they sure love to dish it out, BUT THEY JUST CAN’T TAKE IT!

’Nuff said.

@jan hall. Bildo’s hair color is now more of a Tang Light. Maybe we should send in a question to The Factor each night: “What color hair are you wearing tonight?”

San Francisco is not afraid of brushing off these Workplace Bullies. We suggest this script for San Francisco officials when confronted with the Foxies’ low-level reporters.

“Do you think Fox “News” should have terminated Billy’s contract for sexual harassment of a staffer?"

“The way Billy treated his ex-wife Fox “News” should do a story on him."

We guarantee Billy would nix those segments.

We here in San Francisco have absolutely no love for Fox News, especially Bill O’Reilly. I think the only conservative host we hate more than him is Glenn Beck. I’m not kidding when I say it was a sign of real restraint no passer bys punched Watters in the face.

Well at least Junior O’Reilly got that hideous “Tangerine Sunset” gunk out of his hair.

Hahaha.