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Mike Huckabee Wants You To Pay More Taxes (So He Can Pay Less)

Posted by Ellen -7859.80pc on April 15, 2013 · Flag

Mike Huckabee opened his show last night with a call to implement the flat tax. With his folksy, avuncular tone, Huckabee took a mean-spirited swipe at lower earners: "Each April 15, I’m reminded just how different this day would be if we would implement the fair tax. The fair tax would not raise or lower our current taxes but it would change the way that we collect taxes from the current system of punishing productivity and rewarding irresponsibility."

You got that? If you don’t earn a lot of money and are in a lower income tax bracket, you’re irresponsible.

Huckabee continued:

Then we would pay taxes when we consume something. We would pay tax when we buy something, not when we earn something. You know, since everybody buys things, we’d all be paying something. It would mean that drug dealers and prostitutes, pimps and gamblers would be paying their own taxes instead of you having to pay your fair share as well as their fair share.

Again, Huckabee is slyly suggesting that those who don’t pay federal taxes are moochers at best, criminals at worst. But here’s what he didn’t mention: everybody pays taxes, including drug dealers, prostitutes, pimps and gamblers. They pay sales taxes, property taxes, fuel tax, cigarette tax, hotel tax… you probably get the picture.

And you wouldn’t be punished for work as income tax would be abolished. You wouldn’t be punished for saving, investing or leaving something behind for your kids. You could throw away that little shoe box full of receipts and slips of paper because you wouldn’t file taxes. You’d just enjoy April 15 as another beautiful spring day.

Except that some people would probably be enjoying that spring day more than others. From FactCheck.org:

(The Fair Tax) will collect more money from those earning between $15,000 and $200,000 per year and less from those earning more than $200,000 per year.

Or to put it another way: while Huckabee would be paying less tax, most everyone watching him would be paying more. Don’t you think he should have disclosed that little factoid? Instead, Huckabee actively covered it up. He said that because rich people “buy more expensive things, they’d pay more. That’s fair.”

Except that poorer people spend more of their income on “things” than rich people. The Brookings Institution calculates that whether you classify households by annual income or consumption level, households at the very top would get a tax cut of about $75,000.

Here’s another factoid Huckabee left out. The hike in sales tax (which is, essentially what the “fair tax” is) would make the cost of everything go up. In its 2007 article, FactCheck calculated:

At today’s prices, gasoline would cost almost $1 per gallon more. A $150,000 new home would run $195,000 – plus the 30 percent tax that the buyer would pay on the interest on the mortgage.

I don’t mind a host advocating for the so-called Fair Tax. But he should at least be honest about what he’s advocating for and not paint a distorted picture of its outcome – while hiding how it benefits himself so nicely at the expense of others. That’s no fair at all.


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Marilyn Rickert commented 2013-04-20 00:18:29 -0400 · Flag
The Fair Tax eliminates the most regressive income taxes — payroll taxes. Most people pay more in payroll taxes than income taxes. A person spending at the poverty level has a zero poverty rate with the Fair Tax. If the person is living below the poverty level the Fair Tax would act as a subsidy greatly improving our social safety net.
Bemused commented 2013-04-17 02:20:10 -0400 · Flag
Would have responded to Richard earlier but I’ve been having trouble posting.

@richard: Hey, I wrote pretty much the same thing you did! I’d decided that mentioning the weak/no taxation on capital gains taxes was off topic on a thread dealing with the low and middle income brackets. They don’t earn capital gains but the failure to tax capital gains is anti-economic in today’s world.

A tiny withdrawal on transactions (I think it’s called the Tobin tax) would generate millions almost entirely painlessly even to those paying it.

ome countries in Europe are thinking about doing that but I’m not hopeful so long as the USA refuses to even discuss the possibility.
Ellen commented 2013-04-17 00:54:33 -0400 · Flag
Kenneth Howe, my quote from FactCheck took into account the exclusion for the poor. That’s why they said those earning over $15,000 a year will pay more. Maybe you should read their actual analysis before you dismiss it.
Richard Santalone commented 2013-04-16 10:54:01 -0400 · Flag
@bemused Pardon me — if you don’t mind, I’d like to mention PAYROLL TAXES (i.e. Social Security taxes). In my opinion, this tax is EVEN MORE UNFAIR than a VAT (i.e. sales tax). Here are the two main reasons why: First, currently only the first $113,700 of WAGE INCOME — AND ONLY WAGE INCOME — is subject to these taxes. Second, income from dividends and capital gains — two of the principal income sources for most 1%ers (especially Wall Streeters) — is 100% EXEMPT FROM THESE TAXES. I got this information from the eye-opening book “America: Who Really Pays The Taxes?” which was written by the Pulitzer Prize winning duo Donald Barlett and James Steele, the same duo who also wrote the national bestseller “America: What Went Wrong?”.
Bemused commented 2013-04-16 02:44:18 -0400 · Flag
Any tax based on what one “buys” is unfair because the purchases of people who are not rich are mostly for essentials like food, clothing, shoes, a fridge, a range, school books, etc. The VAT ( “goods and services” tax in Canada) is the most unfair tax there could possibly be. Except, of course, for taxes that are capped to favor the high-end earners.

The only fair tax is one based on: 1) earnings (aka income) and 2) holdings (aka stuff owned).

The only way to measure the fairness or unfairness of a tax is to examine how much it “hurts” for a person to pay it, i.e. how much that particular outlay “weighs” in his or her annual budget.

In any case, the whole idea of the relatively better off paying more is part and parcel of all human religions, including Christianity. Huckabee is awfully mean-minded for someone who claims to be one. A true Christian (upper case “C”) would thank the Lord for his/her success and reciprocate by doing more than his/her fair share.
Thx4 Fish commented 2013-04-15 18:14:05 -0400 · Flag
You’d think people who don’t like their ‘productivity’ being taxed-would instead opt for the VAT tax wherein people are only taxed for what they buy, not what they earn. Of course this wouldn’t shift the tax burden onto the poor (which is their real goal). And then the whiners would lose one of their best talking points if they couldn’t moan about the ‘unproductive’ people who don’t pay (income)taxes.
Joseph West commented 2013-04-15 15:12:04 -0400 · Flag
Here’s a “fair tax” proposal for Hucksterbee: Everyone earning less than $25,000 a year is COMPLETELY exempt from paying the tax (this expands to the whole family, even if members of the family don’t earn anything—a couple earning less than $50K, a family of 3 earning less than $75K, etc). THEN, we lose the cap on Social Security withholding so that a person earning $1 million is NOT paying the same amount as someone earning ~$110K. (See, that’s what’s funny. Social Security withholding is TECHNICALLY a “flat tax” but people earning over a certain amount, currently about $110K a year, don’t pay anything on any amount over that cap—so those folks aren’t paying “their fair share.”)

Now, I know Hucksterbee wouldn’t go for that since he really doesn’t want to pay anything in taxes. Just ask the conservapigs about Britain’s VAT—basically a “sales tax” that’s automatically added to the selling price. If you buy something priced at £10.57, you pay £10.57 at the register because the “sales tax” is already in the price tag. The conservapigs aren’t all that thrilled with VAT either. They’re not happy with the whole idea of “sales” taxes either. (Nearly every time that a municipality or state discusses raising sales taxes, it’s normally the conservapigs who freak out on the matter. No matter how necessary the added revenue may be, the conservapigs find SOME reason to argue against it.)
Lakeview Greg commented 2013-04-15 14:12:06 -0400 · Flag
The Creator has a very special place for Huck, and it ain’t Heaven.
truman commented 2013-04-15 14:06:17 -0400 · Flag
Despite what Gomer the Huckster spews into the empty heads of the Fux Nation goobers, there is nothing remotely “fair” about the fair tax. The crippling sales taxes would lower the standard of living for the lower and middle class. Meanwhile the rich folks, including Gomer, would be rewarded with a tax decrease windfall unseen since the Dumbya administration.
NewsHounds posted about Mike Huckabee Wants You To Pay More Taxes (So He Can Pay Less) on NewsHounds' Facebook page 2013-04-15 13:55:50 -0400
Huckabee's folksy tone covered up some very elitist and self-serving attitudes.








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