@ellen: ain’t that the truth.

@ez: thanks.

@newshounds regulars: the guys and gals who give me hope that America will eventually return to the values that made it great, by that I mean the values that made it exceptional.

@trolls: your lot makes me sick to my stomach but I can’t yet decide why… your hypocrisy in betraying the best that is America all in the name of America, ditto for Christianity; the depth of your selfishness, or the heights of your fear.

Probably all three.

It’s amazing how a discussion about treating children in line with Judeo-Christian principles has brought out the most vile vitriol.

So, lemme get this straight, lol… In order to have an opinion on this, I have to go running down there, and adopt these kids. How many adoptions do I have to do before I stop having “Zero brain activity in my empty head”?

And please be sure to let me know what I have to do to earn an opinion on Iraq, the Midterms, the Benghazi suspect, school policies, the gun control issue, and all the other issues of the day. Other than have your exact views on the matter, which are not only inhuman, but show a clear lack of understanding on what’s going on.

Regardless of how secure the border is it obviously isn’t secure enough if all these thousands of children are managing to get over it. And this “humanitarian crisis” isn’t actually a humanitarian crisis at all. It ‘s happening because people south of the border get the news too. And the news out of America lately has been all about “immigration reform” which is liberal code for open borders and American citizenship for anybody who can make their way here, regardless of whether they have a way to support themselves or not once they’re here. But we do actually have a humanitarian crisis in this country, one you never hear this President even mention. And that is the humanitarian crisis of homelessness. There are thousands of American citizens sleeping on the damned sidewalks every night. The sidewalks ! And nobody ever seems to give much of a damn about them except for at Christmas time when they can ease their guilt by volunteering to feed them a plate of turkey with stuffing and mashed potatoes. Charity begins at home and we need to get our own house in order before we start taking in thousands from other countries. Richest country in the world and there are people sleeping on the sidewalks every night like its Calcutta or Bombay. Its insane to think we can absorb millions of people from other countries into our society when we have thousands upon thousands of people who were born here who don’t even have a damned place to live.

O’Reilly’s such a POS I couldn’t watch the whole clip.

Only in the world of Alex, Cheryl, and Rick is a humanitarian crisis an excuse to go politically partisan, and suggest we toss children into the desert to die. All while sporting that big “christian” cross.

Of course, in their world, it’s also OK to take away poor people’s homes, health insurance, and assistance, while outsourcing their job, and telling them they can leave the country if they don’t like it. While claiming ti be humanitarian.

It’s also OK in their world to tell people who didn’t like Bush that they’ll buy them a one-way ticket to another country and force them to take it if “they don’t like it here,” then turn around and say that it’s “Patriotic,” and “our 1st Amendment Right” to talk about killing Obama. in fact, they pull the same “one way” ticket shit for people who call them out. Because that’s not free speech hypocrisy at ALL.

These people aren’t “too stupid to learn,” as some of you suggested. They’re too callous to care about anything but their gun in their hand, and their guy in the white house.

Rick asks how many can the USA realistically support? Answer: Every last one of those children. We don’t even have to raise taxes. To not support them would be very un-American and extremely un-Christian. And pretty much un-any other religion.

Thank you, ez. It would be good for BOR and his ilk to reflect on that.

@rick: you’re full of fermented beans, Son.

One of these days, I’ll simply have to memorise the sentence carved in stone on the base of the Statue of Liberty. If I’m not wrong, it says something about the USA being a welcoming country. I guess that value has gone the way of so many other Christian values (upper case “C” intended).

Well, Rick Blaine, how many of these children are you willing to murder by allowing them to just die?
And, bottom line, the borders are now much more secure than they were under GWB. But, of course, as a Foxophile you would be ignorant of that fact…..as well as many others.

How many of these children do you folks think we can realistically support ? 100,000 ? A million ? Bottom line this is happening because the federal government refuses to secure our borders. Other countries have secure borders. Why doesn’t the United States?

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Bildo Economics:
$5 a day to feed a hungry child. Outrageous.
$1 trillion to destroy Iraq over non-existent WMDs. Worth every penny.

@mlp ! I am aware of that but remain optimistic that not all of them are irremediably deluded (aka wilfully stupid). I’m always hoping that a placid presentation of reality might – just might – open a crack in their mindlessness.

Bemused, you realize that you’re trying to talk logically to fearful, ignorant people, don’t you?
How pitiful that these cretins are deluded enough to label themselves Good Christian American Patriots, when they themselves are what is wrong with this country.

@kathy: I agree that no real parent would even think of sending kids that young out on their own. Hell, a 3-year old can barely walk. However, you are assuming that they do so deliberately and I don’t think that’s the case.

Here’s an alternative theory that involves putting oneself in their shoes for a moment.

Imagine for a moment that you are living in dire misery, unable to give the kids anything to eat for days on end and having to scavenge for food in the local garbage dump. That’s where you get your clothes and shoes, too. There’s no future for you or for your kids. Nothing.
Now, imagine that you’ve heard about a wonderful land to the north where the people are followers of Christ (just as you are) and where nobody goes hungry. That’s the story you hear. Things are so bad at home that you decide to try to get there. You eat even less because you know the “coyotes” at the border will want cash. When you think you have enough, you round up the kids and start off. There are garbage dumps along the way, although you will have to compete with the locals.

Despite everything you’ve done to protect the kids and give them a better future, something goes badly wrong. Two scenarios by way of example
a) you may actually croak (die), perhaps because you’ve been giving the kids all the food and water that you had. The kids are on their own and you can do nothing more to help them.
b) you may lose sight of one of the kids, just for a moment while all of you are scavenging. Any parent who’s had a kid wander off in a shopping mall knows how that feels. Out in the desert, there are no loudspeakers to tell you where to look for them and they’re unable to tell anybody how they got to where they were found.

Leave that stone on the pile so that it can be used to build something positive instead of criticising others.

PS: Your link between refusing ever again to vote democrat seems to be based on a rejection of any effort to help these kids. Weird but it does confirm my own conviction that it’s the Democrats who are more likely to think and behave like true Christians (capital “C” intended).

It always amazes me to realise that trolls are so scared of the mighty liberal aura never to dare appear on their own … assuming of course that this is not just another example of sockpuppetry. Which is what I imagine is involved here.
Anyway, the current troll-under-three-names is a perfect example of what Bill O’Reilly represents: a “have-got-mine” who is totally unwilling to give others a chance. Sooooooooooo un-Christian by my book.

I once had a cat who would splay herself over the food dish to keep her siblings away while she scoffed down as much as she could hold (only to barf immediately afterwards). Appropriately, I called her “Glutton”. Every time I hear the typically un-Christian bleatings of Bill O’Reilly and his like, I cannot but remember Glutton.

The likes of Bill O’Reilly, Phil, Alex and Cheryl often have a reserved front pew and some sort of prestigious position in the local pseudo-christian place of worship. They’re so typical of the self-righteously selfish element of the Christian faith.
It always amazes me to realise how totally unaware they are that they are actually not following the path of Christ. It boggles the mind to see them so far off that path.

For once I actually agree with Bill, but only where he admits that his words would not pass the Judeo-Christian test. To my mind, that admission does not get him off the hook as he clearly thinks it does.

Today’s equivalence of the money-changers in the temple and the blatantly pious Pharisees are well represented on Fox and on this thread. All we need, now, is for Jesus to come back (and for me to be a fly on the wall to watch before writing the Book of Bemused in the New New Testament).

@phil/alex/Cheryl: You three are being way too easy on these children. Let’s get real. We should just release them back into the desert without food and water. That will be a lesson for any future law breaking illegals. You see, this way no one will ever accuse us of being compassionate or well meaning Americans. At least then when you’re all burning in hell, you won’t be surprised as to why. Wow, who knew being intellectually lazy and stupid could be this fun.

Using O’Loofah logic, I guess I wouldn’t be an American, since both of my mother’s parents were dirt poor Irish Catholic immigrants who I guess, came over here to take away jobs from good Protestants so they could better their lives. When Jesus fed the 5,000 on the Mount, did he pick and choose who got to eat depending on what language they spoke and what region they were from??

This MORON needs to take about 500 of them HOME with her!! Who is she to make decisions for all of us who KNOW the US cannot afford any of them They ALL need to go back.. NOW! She lives in a fantasy world. That stupidity is anything but Christianity!

“How are they going to compete in our competitive marketplace here ? How?”——- Don’t underestimate them Junior. If they eat their Chewy Meatloaf and Fish Sticks, like you did, who knows? Their could be a chance a few of them could develop into Narcissistic, Bigoted Blowhards, and follow in your footsteps. Perhaps one of them might even be, what was it Rupert Murdoch called you? Oh yes “a book salesman with a T.V. Show.” It wouldn’t be on Fox of course, but theirs always Telemundo.

Let’s all play “Just Imagine,” shall we?

Just Imagine that FoxNoise was operating in the late 1840s and boatloads of “immigrants” coming from Ireland were swamping the New York City harbor, fleeing their island home which had been plagued by starvation as a key food crop failed for years on end. Nativists (as opposed to “Native Americans”) weren’t keen on all these “wretches” washing up on the shores of “God’s Own Country,” especially as they were miserable Papists (ie, Roman Catholics), and everyone knew that the United States was intended to be a Protestant nation. What do you think the opinion of FoxNoise (Model 1845) would’ve felt about all these wretches coming to the USA?

(In case you missed that period of US history—and I’m pretty certain the modern-era hosts of FoxNoise skipped it in their history classes—following this wave of immigration, New York City suddenly saw signs reading “No Irish Need Apply” on stores and businesses throughout the city. After all, those stinking Irishmen were only after the jobs of hard-working American citizens, and too many of them were willing to work for a mere pittance of a wage—far lower than American men needed to get by to feed and house and clothe their own good American families. Oh, and they were filthy Catholics, to boot, who had the audacity to insist on praying the wrong way and believing the Pope was infallible and having way too many children.)

A perfect smackdown!