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Dr. Ben Carson Calls VA Scandal ‘A Gift From God’

Posted by Ellen -7859.80pc on May 24, 2014 · Flag

Fox darling Dr. Ben Carson intimated that he sees the veterans suffering in the VA scandal as little more than political pawns today. Carson announced on Fox News that the VA problems are “a gift from God” to enlighten us about what’s wrong with public-run health care. Then he lectured all politicians to stop playing politics with our country’s problems.

On America’s News HQ today, host Uma Pemmaraju asked Carson, “There are those who are saying what’s happening now is also a preview of what we might see once the ObamaCare system is fully in place in this country.”

She failed to mention that the people saying that are conservatives. Oh, and she also failed to mention that the overwhelming majority of veterans feel favorably toward the VA.

But, apparently, Carson was too busy polishing his conservative cred (and potential Republican candidacy) to do any actual research into how “the people” (not to mention veterans) feel. He replied:

I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

Ironically, Carson then began scolding politicians for playing politics rather than solving problems. Carson added: 

We need seriousness here rather than just political speak. "How can I look better? How can my party look better?" And I’m saying this to both Democrats and Republicans: Stop, and think about the people. You know, you guys are servants. You’re not rulers. So first of all, get that out of your mind. And think about what can we do with the problems that we have to solve in this nation, which are substantial. Some of which threaten to actually destroy our nation.

Carson might want to consider taking his own advice before lecturing anyone else.

You can watch Carson's arrogance below, via Media Matters.

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Bemused commented 2014-06-04 03:51:09 -0400 · Flag
I’m rather sorry you banned King Stud because he was a promising source of totally fact-free ranting. Useful material for teaching critical thinking where the first step is to get past the emotions and beliefs in order to focus on what matters, i.e., the facts.
Ellen commented 2014-06-04 01:24:46 -0400 · Flag
Since “King Stud” hates us so much, I’m sure he won’t want to return to our site. So I’ve banned him.
King Stud commented 2014-06-03 01:57:55 -0400 · Flag
Seeing you can’t edit a typo, I’ll reiterate this thought at the bottom of my post.

It should read, “ONE” stupid, where it says “not” stupid in this phrase.., “Boy you are not stupid individual.” It should read, "Boy you are one stupid individual if you still think Obama and the democratic party are the answer after this 6 year fiasco!

Have a nice day Conservatives! Keep the faith. You gotta believe in God to do that! Liberals don’t comprehend God, because they’re ungodly.
King Stud commented 2014-06-03 01:52:47 -0400 · Flag
Don’t bother with this forum people. It’s full of nothing but liberals and it’s an attack site for liberals to try and coerce otherwise smart people into voting for Hillary next time around. It’s a propaganda joke. Anyone that would vote for Hillary after this 8 years of total failure that the liberals absolutely know is a fiasco and don’t know what to do about it because it’s out in the open and shows what a failure their prima donna boy was, has got to be a blooming uneducated fool. Because if this last 8 years hasn’t swayed your opinion that the Democrat liberals are all liars and all the media is in on it with them the likes of Chinese propaganda, then nothing will ever make you intelligent enough to know better. They’re just going to continue to attack your posts if you are against their opinion which is why all this has come to pass. Ignorance is running the country right now and that’s about to change and they know it. Their party is about to be over and Dr. Ben Carson is their biggest most huge credible threat because he’s a man that knows health care. Government run health care is a fiasco and Obamacare is going to be repealed. It’s over. So is the liberal run government. They’re scared half to death. So the only thing they can do is go online and try to spread more lies and cover up to keep their reign but it’s over already. The entire country now sees what Obama and his own party have done to this nation leaving it in more debt and further in despair. The country has had enough ZERO progress, fudging the numbers on unemployment when fact is the numbers are based on those only collecting now, not those that their benefits ran out and they are now no longer looking. They are all liars. And they’re continuing on here trying to fool the idiots of the world that don’t know any better and try and make Hilary out to be a great leader when she’s done! She’s caught. She’s a liar, she’s ruthless to control and wants power and everyone knows it. The democratic party is done! The country is about to vote it’s conscious and finally the masses will end this nightmare and turn the country around the other way and get it back to good morals, good ethics, they’ll put God back in country and kick all the things that are decaying America and making foreign countries no longer look at us like we know what we are doing. The democratic liberal party has made a mockery of the white house and our values and integrity with the world and now the people in this country know it. Immigration reform is going to stop illegals from coming into our country threatening our citizens, and we will finally have a president that other nations will fear when he tells them to not cross a line. An ALPHA male that will be a true commander and chief. Just the other day, they showed a comparison on the news, not the liberal propaganda media, the real news, Fox, and they showed the response the military had on their graduation day between the introduction of Obama and President Bush in his last year of office which was when the country was really turning on him. They introduced Obama and you saw the cadets all seated, politely clapping very quietly. No one stood up, no standing ovation, nothing! Even our Military realizes their commander and chief is a failure and a coward and then they showed Bush in 2008 and the crowd went wild, standing ovation and full support for Bush. It just goes to show you, the country has had enough of liberal activist type idiots like on this page that try to pass themselves off as know it alls and want to fool everyone into voting their opinion so they can keep doing what it is they’re doing that’s messing the country up in an attempt to collapse our country and force socialism on us. This country is so fed up with the liberals that there civil war is teetering on the fence and could happen any day now. With america armed to the teeth, Conservatives are ready to fight for this country and end this spending spree that the liberal democrats are on and end the propaganda being fed to America. Change is about to come. And the liberals and all their fun destroying everything that the forefathers of this country founded and based this country on are all going to come back. America has had enough with liberals, activists and democrats! Lies more lies and nothing but lies while they all get rich and destroy america, our values, our economy and our lives! Yet they want you to believe the Republican party are the one’s that are all for the rich and the only ones that are making money. Only a fool would believe the democrats are for the people and aren’t crooks. The past 8 years have shown they are not only crooks, they lie in the face of the nation and spin all the rhetoric like experts that they are at it, and cry foul and racist if you disagree with their views. This is done! They’re so over!

Don’t bother wasting your time on this forum folks. The dumb liberals on here are only on this page to attack the number one threat to their way of life and their game and the charade is about to be over when Dr. Ben Carson destroys Hillary Clinton and the Republican party takes back over control and the economy prospers once again with major growth! There is only so much blaming Bush this country could take for his failure and 5 years of it was enough to cast doubt, now his own actions cast the rest. The final nails have been drawn into a coffin and todays release of a soldier in Afghanistan shows his muslim bias.

Four people asked for Obama’s help in Benghazi and he did nothing and they died.

A soldiers family are pleading with Obama to help their son in Mexico who’s being beaten by guards in prison and he’s done nothing.

A muslim father asked Obama to free his son from Afghanistan, and Obama let’s go five of the most dangerous Taliban for our one guy! He’s showing his true Muslim beliefs and he’s showing his true conviction for muslims and anti America. The country got fooled once, shame on Obama! The country got fooled into believing him a second term and now shame on the country!

Now we find out this guy he just brought back may have deserted and was a muslim convert and five American soldiers lost their lives trying to find him.

Dr. Ben Carson will restore Credibility to the Office of the President Of The United States. He will end spending. He will end the Obamacare Nightmare! He will restore our nations values, and restore integrity in the United States among nations around the world and he will stop the deficit from going so astronomical that Obama had spent more than any president in the history of presidents of the united states COMBINED in just his first 4 years in office and now he’s still spending!

This game is OVER! Dems and Liberals are DONE! And you see the anger and hostility in their comments to anyone that disagrees with them. This is not a site to discuss and bring up valid points. It’s a liberal PROPAGANADA SPIN ATTACK SITE and that’s all it is. Just look at the title. What a joke! Don’t waste your time on this page folks because the liberals on it that keep chiming in are the same ones that are trying to spin for the democrat liberals. And this country has had enough of that!

BYE BYE LIBERALS!! SAY GOODNIGHT to your little game! It’s OVER!

BEMUSED! You must look in the mirror every day and be amused at what you see. Because no one buys what you’re selling. Snakeoil salesmen died years ago! Fox news is the ONLY Factual news site on TV today. The rest are controlled by the richest elite trying to gain control over everyone through propaganda! Boy you are not stupid individual if you still think Obama and the democratic party are the answer after this 6 year fiasco! What a laughing stock your party has been! What a laughing stock! You didn’t fix nothing! But surprised you didn’t charge! God knows you’re party is taxing everything else to spend!
Bemused commented 2014-05-28 10:06:12 -0400 · Flag
King Stud wrote:
“Now you tell me, are you going to listen to a seasoned intelligent man? Or the most distinguished association of American medical professionals? Or 99% of the world-class scientists specialised in climate studies? Or the people who actually live in countries with single-payer government-run health coverage schemes?
Or Fox News, where spin and fact-free opinion is the norm not the exception to the rule?

There, I fixed it for you. No charge.
King Stud commented 2014-05-27 21:21:59 -0400 · Flag
And love this site’s motto. We watch fox so you don’t have to. See how the liberal agenda is to target and attack to try to discredit! Typical of how politics are run. Attack ads. Now you see attack articles. Folks, if you’re on this page reading this garbage being spewed by people that say they are news hounds, then the real news they should be covering is how great a refreshing Candidate Dr. Ben Carson is, what an incredible stroke of luck sent by God he is to be American and he’s all ours, and he’s the worlds most respected Neurosurgeon! That means he was regarded as the best neurosurgeon ON PLANET EARTH! Now you tell me, are you going to listen to a seasoned intelligent man? Or some young left wing liberal journalist trying to make a career in journalizing and having nothing else to wrote so they attack a great man for the purpose of getting recognition from the left media and make a name for themself.

Don’t waste your time with this propaganda.
King Stud commented 2014-05-27 21:17:30 -0400 · Flag
FIRST off, he’s not TEA PARTY! He’s republican conservative. Secondly, Dr. Ben Carson is a REFRESHING voice over all the other typical political BS mumbo jumbo seasoned career politicians use to try to sway your vote and elect them. Dr. Carson speaks a language that is pulling all walks of life from both sides of the fence to the table with the thought to work through our differences and see what’s truly happening in our country and work together to fix it! He’s understanding that liberals are purposely telling blacks that they have to be a certain way. They have to vote a certain way because of the color of their skin and they should not work hard to try and make it, but that taking a government hand out and letting the government provide for you is a liberal’s way of keeping black people down. It’s funny that black people keep voting democrat because it’s white liberals that a re executing this policy and black people are eating it up and conforming without any idea it’s happening to them. They are going along voluntarily. He has a way of telling people the way it truly is in terms that everyone can understand and his ideas for fixing it are second to none as they haven’t been thought of by either party as both parties are career politicians. The fact that Ben Carson is not a politician is what makes him perfect for the job. And to say that him comparing Obama Care to this VA scandal as a bad thing is a laughing joke. The man was in the medical field. He knows medical. So if he says it’s a gift from God, he doesn’t mean that Vets dying is a gift from God, he’s saying that the fact that these vets died under GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE is a perfect example and no better time to show the American people that voted for Government run healthcare just how LOUSY the government is at running health care for vets, imagine how bad it will be for you and me! It’s a statement that’s factual, too the point and giving an analogy as to what we are in for if Obamacare continues without repeal! Our government can’t even run itself right! So how in hell do you expect them to run Healthcare efficiently? The VA screw up is just an example of how bad it is going to be and how devastating the costs are! So he’s saying, don’t believe in Obamacare as the VA Scandal is perfect timing, an act of God, telling you to not be for it as THIS is what is going to happen if you allow it to continue on! It’s going to be a nightmare! So is Dr. Carson wrong in his statement? No! Not one bit. But you see, the liberal news media sees him as a MAJOR CREDIBLE MAN with MAJOR ABILITY TO BEAT the liberal candidate in the next election and for that they are running scared. As a result, the attack on Dr. Ben Carson starts now as they want to discredit him as quickly as possible so they can push their liberal agenda, Hillary! And we all know how bad she is and how terrible she’s going to be.

Vote Ben Carson for TRUTH, JUSTICE and the OLD AMERICAN WAY!!! A UNIFIED AMERICA, ALL BEHIND BEN CARSON!

And don’t believe this attack on Carson and typical TWISTING of words that Carson said to try and get you to believe he meant something else. It’s typical worthless Liberal propaganda SPIN!
Carole S. commented 2014-05-27 20:09:06 -0400 · Flag
Hey Levin, your other name wouldn’t happen to be Mark now, would it?
Antoinette commented 2014-05-27 14:42:13 -0400 · Flag
Bemused, we meant Deneen Borelli.
Bemused commented 2014-05-27 03:10:08 -0400 · Flag
On topic: If I remember correctly, Obamacare was endorsed by the national association of American medical professionals and I don’t recall any negative reaction from the membership of that distinguished institution. Dr. Carsen is not in sync with his peers (aka people who’ve studied and practised medicine). Why should I believe him rather than the majority voice? Oh wait.
Bemused commented 2014-05-27 02:58:14 -0400 · Flag
Levin: Methinks you’re forgetting that the whole body of computer work that we take so much for granted actually started with a government (military) project involving a huge hangar full of humming machines. All those achievements you mention were built on seminal work initiated and paid for by government. The private sector is great at developing new uses but it rarely if ever finances truly original R&D.

Off topic: I recently learned to my delighted surprise, that Hedy Lamarr (a movie star of Austrian birth) and an unknown musician-cum-piano-tuner have only recently been recognised as the inventors of the technology that makes it possible for us to use cellphones, GPS and all sorts of wireless gadgets. Their invention (during WW2) was ignored by everybody including government but it was eventually government that used it to develop some sort of missile-aiming device for naval battles. The private sector came on the scene to develop a lot of other uses using that seminal work.
Carole S. commented 2014-05-26 11:29:27 -0400 · Flag
Don’t you just love those anonymous source quotes that FOX News uses:

“There are those who are saying…."
Carole S. commented 2014-05-26 11:21:33 -0400 · Flag
@ Katherine,
I have never heard Ben Carson give a “specific example” based on his medical expertise when criticizing Obamacare. Before the ACA marketplace even began open enrollment, Carson was comparing it to slavery. He has given several interviews where he has openly suggested that people read neo-Marxists literature in order to understand where his fear of Obamacare is coming from. This sounds a heck of a lot like the “over the top language” of Glenn Beck and Ayn Rand to me!

Curious to know what state your friends live in that purchased their insurance through the marketplace exchange? This has “totally not” been the experience of one of my relatives.
John McKee commented 2014-05-25 22:03:43 -0400 · Flag
Oh Jan, you poor befuddled dear. This god thing hiding in your head intervenes in the affairs of men? Like when he flicks the switch for undersea earthquakes that trigger tsunamis that orphan babies in their hundreds of thousands? Like when he drops those fun tornadoes on his beloved bible-belters while leaving the god-mocking coasters to sip their Slippery Nipples and snort their Devil’s Dandruff like there’s no tomorrow.

Next time you thank your god for his miniature mercies, don’t forget to curse his very name for the pain, suffering and misery he afflicts millions with every day of the week.

In the most unlikely event that there did happen to be a great designer, its greatest creation would have to be the most complex and powerful instrument in the known universe – the human brain. Not to make full use of this miraculous gift is not just pathetic, but sacrilege.
Ellen commented 2014-05-25 21:08:21 -0400 · Flag
FYI, I did not say Carson is a Republican, I said he’s a potential 2016 Republican candidate. He has talked about running. I doubt it would be on any ticket other than the GOP.
truman commented 2014-05-25 10:10:45 -0400 · Flag
God told me that Ben is a moron.
Carole S. commented 2014-05-25 09:46:25 -0400 · Flag
Oh dear! Now we know the source of this misinformation. Does any FOX News anchor do their own research?

Unlike the veterans who get their health care from the VA, the greater population has a choice of picking their own health care provider under the ACA! This false narrative needs to stop!!!

To bad Dr. Carson didn’t enlighten us with the fact that 1.3 million veterans don’t have health insurance! That’s right! Not every veteran is entitled to receive medical care from the VA. Many republican governors chose not to expand Medicaid.

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/21/5738512/states-that-refuse-medicaid-are-leaving-over-250000-poor-veterans
Bemused commented 2014-05-25 09:41:41 -0400 · Flag
Sorry to have to correct you, Antoinette, but Pemmaraju is NOT an Italian name.

On topic: The idiots who read God’s mind suffer from SAS (selective attention syndrome). They’re always going on and on about this or that disaster being God’s message against sinners, etc. but why haven’t we heard anything about the monumental crucifix that killed a kid in Italy, only a few days before John Paul II and John 23rd were declared saints. The cross had been erected in commemoration of a visit by JP2 about 20 years ago.
mlp ! commented 2014-05-25 07:43:43 -0400 · Flag
And God told him this?
Wow, he’s playing all his trump cards now!
Carson/Palin 2016!
Antoinette commented 2014-05-25 03:22:47 -0400 · Flag
There goes Uncle Ben again. Talking nonsense to appease the people who’s lining his pocket with $100 dollar bills.

Uncle Ben, and his co-horts Peterson, West, and the black chick with the Italian last name are modern day house slaves. If they please their masters-their GOP owners-they will reward them with money, and all expense paid trips across the country to promote the GOP “agenda” to the black community.

Bundy fan Hannocchio asked Uncle Ben to guest-host his radio show while he was in North Dakota pimping oil men for money.

The good doctor was horrible on the air. It was so bad, a few people complained about it on Hannocchio’s Facebook page.

Uncle Ben’s popularity will suffer the same fate as Herman Cain. That’s coming down the pipeline soon.
Joseph West commented 2014-05-25 01:34:43 -0400 · Flag
So, MR Carson, how about volunteering your time (I know—I wrote a dirty word for CONservatives) and help out the Veterans by spending time at a VA hospital and treating the veterans? I know you won’t do it, though. Not only does volunteering NOT pay but it might require you to deal with people who couldn’t otherwise afford to be seen by you in your practice.

You, MR Carson, are a disgrace to the medical profession and should have your license to practice revoked.
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