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Dana Perino: If You Don't Love The Pledge, Leave The Country!

Posted by Priscilla -26.60pc on September 05, 2013 · Flag

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Next to the Bible and guns, Jesus loving, atheist hating, conservative Christians fetishize the American flag and the Pledge of Allegiance. Any attempts to take the phrase "Under God" (added in the 50's at the behest of the Catholic Knights of Columbus) from the Pledge are seen as treasonous. But lawsuits involving "Under God" are red meat for Fox News which, in covering them, gets to push patriotism and the popular Fox meme about how evil atheists are ruining it for patriotic, Christian Americans. Yesterday, Peter Johnson Jr. and Steve Doocy were close to tears about a Massachusetts lawsuit in which the atheist plaintiffs are contesting that "Under God" is discriminatory towards atheists. Not surprisingly, some of the good Christians on Fox's "The Five" sold some of that red meat which, as usual, was pretty rancid. 

Yesterday, Bob Beckel reported that earlier in the day, the Massachusetts Supreme Court heard the above cited case. He played video of the plaintiff's lawyer making the claim that the Pledge predicates national loyalty via religious indoctrination and thereby "invalidates atheism" as "downright unpatriotic." Several of the panel members then proceeded to prove his point!

Beckel noted that what the lawyer didn't say was that you don't have to say the Pledge if you don't want to. Dana Perino said that she was "tired of them" and recounted how, when she worked in the Justice Department, a similar lawsuit "came through" and before the day ended, the Congress passed a resolution to keep "under God" in the Pledge. She said that "our representatives have spoken again and again, and if these people don't like it, they don't have to live here." (Same could be said for all those Christians who oppose abortion and gay marriage?)

Beckel said, "that's a good point" and asked if anybody knew when the phrase was added or whether it was original. Patriot Eric Bolling responded that it was added but "it doesn't matter." He made the patented and specious right wing argument about how "in God we trust" is on the currency - another thing that was added in the 20th century. He asked if the atheists want this removed or would the attorney "choose not to take US currency."

Beckel tossed to Gutfeld who, according to Beckel, attends daily mass. Gutfeld said that the Pledge isn't a prayer but "a patriotic exercise that's basically saying thanks for giving us the freedom to be an atheist." (Uh, if you're thanking a deity, that's kind of a prayer). He added that the USA is "one of those countries where you don't get killed if you don't adhere to whatever belief system they're forcing down your throat say in certain countries that we don't mention." (Wonder if Greg knows that the most atheist countries are the happiest?) Perino asked "if you don't believe, why do you care?" (Uh, because you don't appreciate Christianity being shoved down your throat."

Gutfeld blithered about how atheism isn't an extreme idea and "it's called religious faith for a reason because you have faith and the only way you can have faith is if there is no faith to compare it to." (WTF?)  When he started to say that he understood that atheists are a minority, Kimberley Guilfoyle asked "why should they be catered to" and "why are they so special?" She shouted that she found it "offensive that a few people, these children are pawns for their parents [like kids who accompany their parents who scream in front of abortion clinics?] political statements and beliefs to try and force it on everybody else [like the religious right trying to bring back school prayer?] and inflict their beliefs [like abortion restrictions and denial of gay rights] systems." She described these atheists as "incredibly selfish, small minded, and I don't think the court should cater to them because there is no good reason to do so." [so atheists don't have a right to file suit in an American court?]

Beckel referenced how the Salem witch trials were about intolerance towards those who were non-religious. He got in a zinger on Kimberley with the comment that he wouldn't have prosecuted her for that or "any of your five husbands." She huffed that she only had two. [hope she stays away from that Communion rail!]

So there you go, atheists are intolerant and if you don't like the Pledge, you can leave the country which, as far as I know, still allows diversity of beliefs and still has a court system for those who disagree. Talk about invalidation of a belief and denigration of patriotism!! Welcome to the bizarro world of  "The Five."

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Sanford Keavey commented 2014-03-26 18:45:24 -0400 · Flag
Under which GOD? Yours, mine a totem, a rain god,Eros, Zeus or only your version of Christ?
Frank Marinaro commented 2014-03-26 17:27:49 -0400 · Flag
IT IS TIME FOR THE USA TO BE SPLIT. ONE NATION FOR THE LUNATIC LEFTIES AND ONE NATION FOR THE REST OF US.
Glenn Taylor commented 2013-09-08 23:24:03 -0400 · Flag
OMG I just read this thread, if people actually think this then we are done as a country, stupidity isn’t something that can be recovered from. You are all Socialists, you have no idea of reality, you live in a delusional world of Good guys. Read, actually read some history and see the progression we are falling in to . You actually believe this shit, it’s nuts you are nuts. It’s pathetic that America can create idiots that actually believe this shit. Fuck all of you.
Glenn Taylor commented 2013-09-08 23:18:32 -0400 · Flag
It is freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Read please my God read, you are all so fucking stupid it’s crazy, God I hate all of you.
Gary Hjelm commented 2013-09-08 18:04:58 -0400 · Flag
Hypothetically, Dana Perino I don’t like your brand of religion, so why don’t you get the “F**k out,” if you don’t like it in the US. Yes, that statement was just as dumb as your statement, on the Fox News. This why the US Constitution was written the way that it was, and still is today. It was written so people don’t have to leave this country for their beliefs, on religion, of any type of ideology. The Christian religion was not mentioned as being the religion of the state, when the US Constitution was adopted as the rule of law, unless the ultra conservatives have the horsepower to change, the US Constitution unilaterally? It is my opinion, that Christians, or the ultra conservative movement, doesn’t have that kind of power to change our constitution, and make Christianity the religion of the state. Therefore, Dana Perino you can talk all that you want to about what should be in our society, but you do not have the power to change the way that it is in the US. Maybe you should find a country like Sweden, or Iran where they have state religion. However, I am not asking you to leave, but to ask that your position be re-examined, because it is flawed, and it doesn’t support good journalistic ethics in this country.
Sanford Keavey commented 2013-09-08 09:30:28 -0400 · Flag
Sorry Dana but you just don’ t get it.Your religion is of no more importance than mine or no religion at all. It is a personal choice guaranteed by our (all of the people’s) constitution. You can believe in what you want and live in this country. Well, being of another religion, so can I or anyone who is an agnostic or non-believer.This is also OUR country. Study a little history and you will find out that Hitler went after atheists and then many others. Remember his “:Aryan Race”. Is that the path you are following?
William Bramblett commented 2013-09-08 09:12:26 -0400 · Flag
How in the world have so many people put so much credence into these alleged “holy books”, written thousands of years ago, by people unknown, mostly hundreds of years after the alleged incidents? What a bunch of rubes!
Sanford Keavey commented 2013-09-07 12:29:15 -0400 · Flag
This dimwit said this:
… In November of 2009, former Bush White House staffer Dana Perino said “we did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush’s term.”
Michael Desantis commented 2013-09-06 14:58:23 -0400 · Flag
I’m not an atheist, but what Kimerberly say was uncalled for. Atheist have the same rights to talk.
John Burski commented 2013-09-06 10:34:46 -0400 · Flag
Truman – But which country would take them?
Lakeview Greg commented 2013-09-05 19:26:49 -0400 · Flag
Dana Perino is quite possibly the worst thing W ever did to the USA.
truman commented 2013-09-05 18:54:33 -0400 · Flag
Threatening to leave the country is a standard ploy of right-wing teabaggers who don’t get what they want. For example, teabaggers threatened to leave the country en masse when:
1. President Obama was elected in 2008.
2. Obamacare was enacted into law.
3. President Obama was re-elected in 2012.
4. President Obama refused to extend the Bush tax cuts for millionaires.

I wish they would do what they say. If they had, both Bildo and OxyRush Limpballs would be residing elsewhere. And it would be a better country for all of us who remain.
Joseph West commented 2013-09-05 17:30:19 -0400 · Flag
Yeah. What Wayne said. What if you don’t like how “activists” have changed the “original intent” of the Pledge? Why should Bellamy be treated with more disrespect than the Founding Fathers, especially as the Founders offered a provision for future generations to change the Constitution as circumstances merited—something that Bellamy didn’t?
Wayne Goveia commented 2013-09-05 16:24:31 -0400 · Flag
What if you love the way the pledge was originally written.
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