Yes,and you are a passive/aggressive troll. Don’t try and play mind games. None of us have time for it.

And don’t deny that’s what you’re doing. Because you’ve consistently done it with every post you’ve made since you logged onto this site.

So cry me a river for your desired civility.

Yakki – you are rude and obnoxious – please pull your head out and think for a minute & read the hyperlinks before you address me. Thanks

Let’s see here,Miss Inconsistency if we can wade through your garbage.

Yakki – your tone of voice stinks – anyway – if you check your history the last time we had a balanced budget was with Clinton – so shove your crap (as you mentioned) elsewhere.

Yes we did,and since this relates to your next brain-fart…..

Also – hey stupid people like you say – again your tone of voice stinks – DID I say we’re going under? Read fist then open mouth please. Go to this website and tell me we don’t need to take action NOW !!! . . .
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/228360.html

Press tv? ROFLMAO. Talk about reaching. Hey,I got it! Let’s go back to the news in Iraq under Saddam! Repeat after me,Bob….The Americans ARE NOT here. They ARE NOT COMING…… ok. Back to your regularly scheduled dose of Iranian propaganda.

No,you didn’t ‘say’ it out. You alluded to it as hard as you could,squinting your eyes as tight as you could,hoping that it would slip by anyone with half a brain not soaked in cheap beer. You set up some fuzzy coorelation between our financial status here in the US,and some teeny little backwater countries in Europe(no offense to those teeny countries meant). Which is not analogous in any way. And frankly,if you’re afraid because of Greece,then I’d bet good money you piss yourself when the power fails and the lights go out.

Furthermore,we are taking action,NOW. The economy is improving,albeit slowly. Which isn’t a bad thing. Many times when economies tank they go through sproadic lurches. Ups and downs over a short period that is detrimental as hell to the economy at large. We’re not doing that,because we did do somehting about it in the US. We’ll be back to our levels in the future,as long as some deregulating moron doesn’t come along again and tear the scotches out from under our feet. So stop being so easily frightened. As I said,we aren’t going under. So stop talking fictions like we are. That’s bullshit right-wing spew.

The other way around – the Church should be able to choose what they will offer employees. If fact, all businesses up until now have had that right. It’s not just the Church I’m upset about — NO business should be told what to offer. How dare Obama put people out of business.

The church doesn’t have that right. The insurance company decides what it offers to people who pay the premiums. The church doesn’t make policy for the Insurance companies. The church doesn’t have the right to force an insurance company to change it’s policy because the church stamps it’s foot and holds it’s breath. Now,if the church is the insurance provider,then that’d be another case entirely. But since they are not,then it’s none of their business,period. What part of that is hard to understand?

*Our individual rights come into play when we make our choices on where we work. Birth Control pills, Trojans & the Vacestomy are not what some employers want covered – plain and simple. So the individual will deal with it & make logical choices. *

And again,HOW IS IT ANY OF THE CHURCH’S BUSINESS? They aren’t paying for it. The people who are paying the premiums are. Either you do not fundamentally understand how that works,or you’re being obtuse. The church has to offer insurance,because they have a certain number of employees and that is mandated by law. Now the church itself is not an insurer,they contract to an outside company,recieving a kickback(in one form of another,either monetary or reduced rates for salaried personel) from said company to allow the company to be the sole offered provider for their employees. The church isn’t paying anything here. The employees are. Even so,employees can go to an outside insurer and opt out of the workplace offered policy. But to most,they recieve a reduced premium rate by going with the ‘sanctioned’ plan. The church doesn’t have the legal power to dictate to the insurer what the policy details are. But they want to,oh so badly. Get it?

*I guess we disagree on “the law of the land” notion you have. We make the laws – but we didn’t with this healthcare – it’s being shoved down our throats – we didn’t vote on it – people believed Obama and his lies – like it’ll save money. Read this before you open your mouth, OK?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/cross_tabs/2008/06/does_obamas_health_care_plan_s.html *

Firstly,YES,we did vote on it. It’s US Constitution 101. We vote for representatives in government,they script bills,bills go through the process in Congress,it ends up on the President’s desk,and he signs or vetos it. Or it dies in committee. Here,let me help you out in a manner that even children can understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eYBZFEzf8

So yes,you voted for it through your legal representatives.

As far as your link I point you to another readily available source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealClearPolitics

“RealClearPolitics is a political news and polling data aggregator² based in Chicago, Illinois. The site’s founders say their goal is to give readers “ideological diversity.”³ They have described themselves as frustrated with what they perceive as anti-conservative, anti-Christian media bias,⁴ and while some have suggested the commentary is conservative-leaning,⁵ the site includes columns and commentary from both sides of the political spectrum."

So I’m frankly not impressed. Anyone who is " frustrated with what they perceive as anti-conservative, anti-Christian media bias" is obviously not without an agenda. That’s tantamount to me linking media matters op ed pieces and offering them as proof. Personally,I don’t need them to tell me which way the wind blows. So keep your Conservative frustrations to yourself.

I would make a suggestion though: When you say my breath stinks? You should take a bath. You’re actually smelling your own ass.

Lynn, i live in the United States. I do, however, have friends in Iran, and even they know Press TV is a propaganda outlet.

Alex – First of all, I hope that Allah has been good to you today and that all is well with you in Iran.

Yes, I’ve lived out of the USA before and know what supression means. My heart cries for you.

Pres. Obama is a charming, carasmatic man who can even sing a nice song! Unfortunately, he was not prepared to deal with all of our USA problems and I’m not sure who is.

Anyway, he have a problem with our healthcare system. Our Pres. tried to solve it and I’ll be nice and leave it there.

The result of us now having ObamaCare is catastrophic. Please read this website!
http://blogs.investors.com/capitalhill/index.php/home/35-politicsinvesting/2532-the-12-worst-features-of-obamacare

You asked, “How does ObamaCare effect USA businesses?” To sum it up, the meager, short-term tax advantages don’t outweigh the slew of new taxes, mandatory payments and other projected cost increases businesses face from the health care law. The expenses force them to close or to stop providing insurance, which is what everyone should be screaming about.
http://fixhealthcarepolicy.com/tag/obamacare/

Here’s another thing to think about . . .
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/09/12/real-cost-obamacare/

Oh, and Lynn, please provide some factual backup for your claim that the mandate will put employers out of business.

Lynn, Press TV is the official TV station of Iran. It’s Iranian propaganda. I watch Press TV on Satellite occasionally and its never more than 2 minutes before they tell an outright lie about the United States. If it was a drinking game I’d be passed out in 15 minutes max. I mean, they do get it right occasionally, but I’d take anything they say with an entire salt mine. Better find a more reliable source.

Yakki – your tone of voice stinks – anyway – if you check your history the last time we had a balanced budget was with Clinton – so shove your crap (as you mentioned) elsewhere.

Also – hey stupid people like you say – again your tone of voice stinks – DID I say we’re going under? Read fist then open mouth please. Go to this website and tell me we don’t need to take action NOW !!! . . .
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/228360.html

The other way around – the Church should be able to choose what they will offer employees. If fact, all businesses up until now have had that right. It’s not just the Church I’m upset about — NO business should be told what to offer. How dare Obama put people out of business.

Our individual rights come into play when we make our choices on where we work. Birth Control pills, Trojans & the Vacestomy are not what some employers want covered – plain and simple. So the individual will deal with it & make logical choices.

I guess we disagree on “the law of the land” notion you have. We make the laws – but we didn’t with this healthcare – it’s being shoved down our throats – we didn’t vote on it – people believed Obama and his lies – like it’ll save money. Read this before you open your mouth, OK?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/cross_tabs/2008/06/does_obamas_health_care_plan_s.html

Oh and,to add to Alex: “Greece and Europe” are not falling apart. Greece is facing an economic crisis because they are a small fish in a very big pond filled with eu,and it has devalued them. Greece wasn’t spending so much to avarice,as to survive. Greece isn’t Germany or France or GB. They’re tiny by comparison.

And the US of A isn’t going under. That’s some BS talking points fed to stupid sheeple who will scare easily. This economy has it’s ups and downs for sure,but the US is far from crippled,and far for turning belly up.

And it’s not a ‘Bush and Obama’ problem. This crap has been coming since Nixon’s corporate and deregulation friendly backside sat in the oval office. Do a little research. Or,‘live’ a little history. You should know this.

Lynn – Because they run for-profit businesses and hire off the street. That’s why they should stay out of it. Because they run colleges for profit and accept all religious types into their schools for the money. So yes,they should be forced to offer comparable health care,like any other school or business that does. Being a religious organisation doesn’t remove you from obeying the laws of the land you reside in. If they don’t like it,pack it up and move it all back to Vatican city where the chirch and the law is the same.

NO body has the right to pick and choose how they treat their workers. The government sets standards that is agreed upon to do business in the USA and last I looked had been doing so for quite a while. And the Catholic church hasn’t complained loudly about any of the requests that the government has made on workers behalf. They are now,of course. Why? Because it’s an election year,and they’re ginning for someone in the race,most likely for anyone more business friendly who will let them make as much money as possible with the least cost outlay.

And you miss the entire point. Those students and workers don’t have to go elsewhere,like your happy-go-lucky made-in-china work model. The church already contracts out to insurance companies and allows them to sell insurance to workers. Probably for a nice little kickback too. They don’t have to pay a single,worldly dime for any of it. It’s all between the worker or student and the insurance company.

Now,why don’t you explain to me,Miss Conservative Constitutionalist,why you support church rights over the rights of the individual to choose their healthcare without the church intervening? Or are you one of those foolish people who think corporations are people too? If you’re any kind of freedom lover like you pretend,you’d be up in arms as well about personal,individual rights being squashed by what amounts to the corporate interest.

Lynn – FYI China only owns 8% of US debt; 2/3 of the debt is owed within the US.

Yakki – exactly – church and state are separate – so why should religious orgs be forced to carry insurance that includes something against their doctrine? It’s about the insurance they offer employees – they don’t want to offer contraception coverage.

So do you think religious orgs should be forced to offer it if they don’t believe in it? Remember that the employee can pay for it at Walmart or choose to work at another place to get it FREE, right?

Ellen, anything FREE is under scrutiny by the GOP – we have to cut spending by the government – like take a bulldozer or wrecking crew and dismantle the whole thing if it were left to me.

Drastic yes – but we have a loan to pay back to China and we have Greece and Europe falling apart & we don’t want to go down the drain along with them, right?

Excess spending by Bush and by Obama got us in this mess – it’s not even a partison discussion in my opinion.

Yes. I’ll remember that Miss Gomez. Perhaps all employers should be able to exempt certain articles of worker’s rights? Or schools. Maybe teachers should decide those since they’re like the priests of schools. Maybe your butcher shoudl decide what meat you should be able to buy.

Freedom is good. But this isn’t freedom. It’s putting a religous ideal before the state in a country where church and state are seperate. No one tells them how to talk about Jesus. They shouldn’t be telling people what they can’t do with their personally purchased insurance.

d d, Thank you for that important information about the GOP trying to shut down the free clinics.

Religious Freedom is a precious concept that my ancestors fought for. The fuc—- British mangled and bruatlized my people for being Quakers — That can never happen in the USA – not while I’m alive and kicking anyway.

Even though I’m 100% Republican and call myself a conservative, O"reilly and Laura are REALLY Catholic and don’t mind telling you about it. But that’s OK with me – at least I know where they stand.

Sluts and loose women have been a controversay ever since Eve and before that with cave women sluts. ha ha!

Aren’t you happy that we have laws STILL that prevent others from imposing their view on you?

They have the right – And I’m happy about it – that they can talk their smack and I can let it go and laugh about it.

Imagine if Hugo Chavez were your President in Venezuela . . . “The changes introduce sweeping restrictions on internet traffic, reinforce existing restrictions on radio and television content, and allow the government to terminate broadcasting licenses on arbitrary grounds. A law approved on December 22 would prohibit human rights groups from receiving foreign funding or fostering public dialogue in Venezuela with international advocacy groups.”

My ah ha moment! Like Pres. Obama imposing his healthcare on me and his wife imposing her health stuff on me.

Yeah,there are clinics out there to supply it to the poor women. But why should someone who pays for insurance already have to frequent those clinics and thus put a burden on an already saturated charity like PP?

It’s like they want their cake and to eat it too.

“This is about free speech,” Ingraham concluded. “And the idea they’re going to target this man’s advertisers because of this — with a 20-year career — you know why they’re going after Rush? Because he’s effective.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/laura-ingraham-blasts-the-view-when-i-was-called-a-slut-barbara-walters-laughed-it-off/

Where is Laura condemnation of Limbaugh, I can’t find it.

Screech Ingraham, the Erection Killer. Guaranteed effective contraception.

Exactly, newzhounds. Ingraham touts that birth control is readily available out there at these “clinics” – the same clinics that those of her ilk would like to see defunded and/or shut down.

This the same bullsh!t tactic that BOR used on “The View” the other day. He said that there isn’t any problem with women getting birth control because they can just go to a federal clinic and get it under Title X of the federal healthcare act. See, no big deal, right?

But what BOR didn’t bother to mention to the ladies on “The View” (too bad Whoopie and/or Joy wasn’t better versed with regards to facts on the issue) or the viewers is that funding to Title X’s family planning services is set to be chopped (as per GOP plans which is tied back into their anti-Planned Parenthood agenda).

The misrepresentation of facts and the disgusting slut-shaming of American women aside for a moment, BOR and Ingraham are trying to pull a fast one on us. It’s like they’e playing some kind of political shell game. They crow loudly, “look, everyone. there are indeed clinics/healthcare progams out there to aid women who need financial help with their birth contol so we don’t understand why there’s so much angst about women getting access to birth control!” But, in the current discussion we’re having about birth control, they don’t seem to want to tell the folks the rest of the story – that these very programs are in danger of being defunded (and that they both support the defunding). It’s like they’re trying to have it both ways. Shame on BOR and Ingraham for their dishonest ploy and shame on the so-called “liberal” media for letting them get away with it.

Feb. 9, 2011: “Among the programs that would be eliminated entirely under the new Republican spending plan announced today is Title X, a which provides family planning for low-income Americans. The GOP plan would cut all $327 million from Title X.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/02/09/gop-spending-plan-x-ing-out-title-x-family-planning-funds/

BOR on “The View”: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2012/03/09/bill-oreilly-who-running-sandra-fluke

If you are working for Georgetown University Hospital, you will get coverage for your birth control. Part of Fluke’s argument is the unfairness of the Georgetown policy which allows workers to access birth control through their policies but not students.