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Let's Watch The ABC Democratic Debate Together

Posted by Ellen -7859.80pc on December 19, 2015 · Flag

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I'm at a Bernie Sanders debate-watching party. I'll be sharing my reactions and those of the crowd around me.

Where are you and what are your reactions? Share your thoughts, observations, etc., below, in our comments section.

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Ellen commented 2015-12-20 03:33:31 -0500 · Flag
Forgot to mention… I saw a police officer I know at the debate. So apparently not EVERY police officer is worried about the “Ferguson effect.”
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 23:38:33 -0500 · Flag
I talked to a woman I know at the Bernie event. She called Clinton “Empress Hillary” and said the moderators “should be shot.”

There were a lot of big Bernie supporters there but I got the sense that everybody was open to voting for Hillary or at least most.
Erich Pomfret commented 2015-12-19 22:52:15 -0500 · Flag
I met Bernie 35 years ago and he’s just as passionate today as ever, so I’m obviously biased towards him, but I could support her.
Erich Pomfret commented 2015-12-19 22:50:04 -0500 · Flag
May the force be with you. HRC’s closing line
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:49:39 -0500 · Flag
HRC closes with “May the force be with you.”

Got good laughs.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:49:03 -0500 · Flag
HRC I know how important it is that we have a Democrat succeed President Obama in the WH.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:47:47 -0500 · Flag
O’Malley got applause for his closing statement, below.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:47:00 -0500 · Flag
MOM: You heard a lot of anger and you heard a lot of fear from the GOP candidates but anger and fear never built America.
Erich Pomfret commented 2015-12-19 22:45:37 -0500 · Flag
“On our worst day, we have a lot more to offer than the Right-wing extremists.” Bernie
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:44:51 -0500 · Flag
Bernie: On our worst day we have a lot more to offer than the right-wing extremists.

Got good applause in this crowd.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:41:21 -0500 · Flag
Jonathan Karl just noted that there has not been a single tweet from Donald Trump during the debate, despite all the criticism.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:35:40 -0500 · Flag
Bernie takes a moment to congratulate HRC for doing an outstanding job as FLOTUS and “redefining what that role could be.”
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:34:56 -0500 · Flag
Martha Raddatz asks if it’s time to change the role of First Spouse.

HRC says each FLOTUS has put her own stamp on the role. “So whoever is part of the family of a president has an extraordinary privilege… making her or making his contribution.”

HRC I am probably still gonna pick the flowers and the china for state dinners but I am still gonna turn to him for advice.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:31:26 -0500 · Flag
HRC: I know we offered a lot of help and it was difficult for the Libyans to accept help.

BS: The Secretary’s right, this is a terribly complicated situation and there are no simple solutions. …The truth is, it is relatively easy for a powerful nation like America to overthrow a dictator but it is very hard to predict the unintended consequences and turmoil that ensues later.

HRC hits BS for voting for a resolution in the senate ending Qaddafi regime.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:28:42 -0500 · Flag
Erich, I’d gladly vote for any of these Democrats and, since I’m not a registered Dem, I’m somewhat agnostic on who gets the nom, but I think as a practical matter, your niece is right. I don’t think Bernie will win and I’m totally happy to vote for Hillary.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:27:05 -0500 · Flag
Martha Raddatz asking HRC how much responsibility she bears “for the chaos” in Libya after removing Qaddafi.
Erich Pomfret commented 2015-12-19 22:26:57 -0500 · Flag
RE: not derailing HRC… At Thaksgiving dinner, I spoke with my 23 yr old niece, active volunteer for Hillary. When I told her my passion for Bern, her response was telling: “He’s like a summer romance. Great while it lasts, but IT TAKES TOO MUCH OF A COMMITMENT TO MAKE IT LAST INTO THE REAL WORLD.”
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:19:25 -0500 · Flag
Bernie: Today in America, we have more people in jail than any other country on earth. We spend $80 million a year locking up our fellow Americans.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:17:51 -0500 · Flag
During the break, the gentleman next to me said he was disappointed Bernie didn’t do something to derail HRC but hopes that a) people will vote for her and b) she will pick up enough of his policies.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:16:15 -0500 · Flag
However, the real question is about bridging the divide between police and African American community.

HRC says in many communities police are already bridging the divide.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:15:20 -0500 · Flag
David Muir asks about “Ferguson effect.” Really?
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 22:07:40 -0500 · Flag
Agree, Erich. This room has at least 50 people and it’s been pretty quiet as everybody pays attention. Very little chitchat or even comments.
Erich Pomfret commented 2015-12-19 22:03:17 -0500 · Flag
There have been a few times I wanted to comment, but because these people actually have something to say, I haven’t wanted to distract myself from the candidates’ statements. Good discussion tonight.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:57:30 -0500 · Flag
Bernie says ACA is “a step forward” but bottom line is “Why is it the United States of America is the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care to all people as a right?” Also notes we spend more than UK and France which also often get better outcomes.

Bernie cites insurance co lobbies as one reason and calls for Medicare for all.

Martha Raddatz hits him for not offering details, he says he has because if individuals and groups don’t have to pay commercial insurance, the middle class will save.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:54:46 -0500 · Flag
HRC offers tax credit to offset out of pocket medical costs, wants Medicare to negotiate prices and making sure insurance agencies are “properly regulated so that we are not being gamed.” She also says we don’t have enough competition and we don’t have enough oversight of insurance companies right now.

HRC rightly says that one reason costs have gone up so much is because red states did not extend Medicaid.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:51:32 -0500 · Flag
Bernie going after Bill Clinton’s de-regulation of banks.

And I’m betting Fox News will pick up this line of discussion stat!
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:50:27 -0500 · Flag
Ack, can’t get into OpenSecrets.org from this room.

I’m sure some of the professional fact checkers will do the job so I don’t have to. :)
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:49:19 -0500 · Flag
Fact checking HRC’s claim about corporate donations.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:47:18 -0500 · Flag
O’Malley: HRC tried to hide her “cozy relationship” with the banks and Wall Street by evoking 9/11.
Ellen commented 2015-12-19 21:45:45 -0500 · Flag
Bernie: I don’t think I’m gonna get a whole lot of donations from corporate America.
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