Fox regular John Tamny hates government so much, he thinks legislators should be “constantly at each others’ throats.”

Tamny spoke in a discussion that debated competence vs. civility for our next president. Jeb Bush has talked of the need for civility. Donald Trump blasted that in favor of competence. So it was clear which candidate Tamny prefers. Even so, his comment was jaw-dropping.

TAMNY: I want the opposite of competence and civility. I want these guys constantly at each others’ throats. When politicians are working in harmony, that means that we see our freedoms reduced and we see the size of government grow in ways that sap the economy’s vitality. This notion of bipartisanship as a good thing is vastly overrated. Gridlock is the path to growth.

Rather than work together to solve problems, Tamny thinks our representatives and, presumably, our president, should do nothing but fight.

Watch this sad commentary on our country below, from the September 12 Forbes on Fox.