No, he won’t. Wish he would though.

What’s the matter, Fox intern—won’t Roger give you access to the library?

No, a full video is all I need.

Sorry, 17,774 tons, not 17M tons. No matter, it’s still ludicrous.

@aria – Our little buddy Joshua would not accept a full video as validation even if Cavuto said “We at Fox News believe and expect our viewers believe that the government is considering making a coin weighing over 17M tons, see our pretty graphic” accompanied by an internal Fox memo written and signed in triplicate by Murdoch himself. He would then claim it was done in jest or change the subject.

He’s fun for a laugh occasionally but someone so delusional is a lost cause.

Come on folks, it was a test for the foxy faithful. Rupert wanted to verify the extent to which they’ll believe anything they see or hear on Fox. Perhaps in preparation for some sort of apocalyptic message.

Anyway, Steve Doocy is fantastically good at making weird comments (idi-oo-cies"). My latest favorite is almost as good as Bill O’Reilly’s comment on the tides: Steve said one day, referring to the singularity of the date 12-21-12: “I wonder how the Mayans chose that particular date”. The fact that the other two people on the couch almost jumped out of their skins suggests that they’re not entirely brain-dead, yet.

Hey Peter: what do I do with my collection of bits and pieces of Ningi? I thought it was like in olden Roman days when “change” was made by cutting up the coins and weighing them.

Reminds me of THHGTTG: Ningi is a triangular rubber coin six thousand eight hundred miles along each side, no one has ever collected enough to own one Pu. Nigis are not negotiable currency, because Galactibanks refuse to deal in fiddling small change. From this basic premise it is very simple to prove that the Galactibanks are also the product of a deranged imagination.

Joshua, I have bent over backwards explaining myself to you, all you do is come back with a new way to call me a liar, under the guise of wanting context. Hey, remember this?

I will search for the segment in its entirety…

How’s that working out for you, huh? Find it on foxnews.com? Youtube? Hulu? Watch sites? No, the full segment is nowhere to be found online?

Yet, you expect me to magically pull it out of my ass just for you, and if I don’t, you get to baselessly call me a liar again.

You provide the segment, since you’re so concerned about it. In the meantime, you can address the assumptions, lies and selective memories you put out trying to justify this “liar” bullshit… or you can shut the fuck up. Those are your only two options at this point.

Josh’U Hatewaah: “I argued that using that clip as evidence that Fox News thinks the coin would have weighed tons is misleading at best.” . . . Even though that’s what the graphic says.

Folks, it’s time to leave Josh to ride on this merry-go-round by himself . . .

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Ok, visitor 55, take out Cavuto’s name and put in Fox News. It does not change the fact that Aria’s piece is misleading at best. I thought it would have been Neil Cavuto who allegedly claimed the coin would weigh tons in a serious tone since the clip was from his show.

“I didn’t say that Craputo thinks there would have been a giant coin.”

Here is Aria’s statement again.

“Fox is contributing to the discussion by expecting their viewers to believe that such a coin would be made out of a trillion dollars of platinum, and weigh roughly 17,774 tons.”

@visitor 55, well I’m glad we agree that this hit piece is misleading at best. I will direct you again to the point I am making. Based on this clip, Aria made the statement, “Fox is contributing to the discussion by expecting their viewers to believe that such a coin would be made out of a trillion dollars of platinum, and weigh roughly 17,774 tons.” This is not true.

Aria, everything you are describing is not in in the clip you provided for us. In the clip, Cavuto and his guest are having a civil discussion that has nothing to do with the graphic. The only thing I can assume is that any discussion that had to do with that graphic took place before your clip begins, and I can only assume that any discussion on the graphic is not included so that it can fit your narrative that Fox News believes there would have been a giant coin.

Judging by your previous comment, you as we’ll have not seen the segment in its entirety yet you feel you can publish a blanket claim based on a ten second clip that has no context. You guys watch Fox News 24/7… Maybe you can enlighten me as to what the conversation was that pertained to the graphic.

Agent: Chyrons don’t air without the consent of the host and the producer. That means that Cavuto not only knew it would air, but when it would air- segment and point in discussion.

So, if it was meant as a joke, it was placed there to humiliate his guest, who got interrupted for this tripe. Don’t tell me Cavuto wouldn’t know how this would get received.

If it wasn’t meant as a joke, Cavuto inserted the talking point as a graphic, expecting it to take with the viewers, and knowing that apologists like Joshua will make excuses for him.

Ok, I’m out on this thread. Play nice, Ya’ll.

And by the way Joshua, weight is not a function of size there Mr. Rocket Scientist – “…there would have been a giant coin”. You might want to turn off Fox every once in awhile and at least attempt to broaden your education. For instance go Google “black hole” which you should be very familiar with as a Fox supporter. Just trying to do my part to help you out there little buddy.

No one here has said “Cavuto believes….”. Maybe they can get Ablowme to analyze Cavuto to figure out what he thinks. I’m asking why they bothered to put up the graphic in the first place. The conversation Cavuto is having (at least in the clip and I’ve taken a cursory look and haven’t found the clip in entirety) doesn’t have anything to do with it and they aren’t laughing about “Hey if they really made this coin of a size based on it’s intrinsic value, it would weigh….be the size of….” etc. Unfortunately I know a lot of Fox viewers who would believe such bullshit simply because it was on Fox.

Ok… You believe Cavuto thinks there would have been a giant coin. Gotcha. You see what you have done, Aria?

“Because the topic was Fox News putting up BS like this- whether you think it’s a joke or not”

No, Aria, here is the topic in your own words…

“Fox is contributing to the discussion by expecting their viewers to believe that such a coin would be made out of a trillion dollars of platinum, and weigh roughly 17,774 tons.”

This is not true.

The point to me is why did Fox bother to put that graphic up in the first place instead of just intelligently speaking to the issue which in itself would be a challenge for Fox talking heads. Even though anyone with half a brain would know the whole graphic is bullshit, half a brain removes 99% of the Fox audience.

I know Mark, but I had to play into your comment for a little humour. Especially after the headache I got from Mr. How many times can I change my story in an hour here.

I wish he’d just admit he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about and move on.

I get paid a hefty sum, Mark. Do you know the definition of spamming? Aria, what I am saying is I have no clue what was said about the trillion dollar coin based on the clip you provided for us. If you gleaned from that clip alone, that Fox News believes that there will be a giant coin, then you should look in the mirror when judging other’s intellectual capabilities. That also goes for those here who believe this tripe based on this short clip. I will search for the segment in its entirety, and if I find Neil Cavuto or anyone else at Fox stating as if it were fact, “the coin will be huge!”, then I will come back and bow before you and become liberal.

I was referring to Sally Kohn, Aria, not you. No worries. :)

Why did you not make your piece on that, instead of this rubbish?

Because the topic was Fox News putting up BS like this- whether you think it’s a joke or not, Joshua. The links I put up made an almost airtight case for the coin’s use as a way to sidestep Boehner between them. thought I’d add that, since your comment just passed through the filter.

Now… have a nice day. I’m through with you.

Mark: To answer you seriously on the TV thing… I have a very, very kiddie sounding speaking voice. Instant defeat for anything that requires more speaking than the top of the hour announcements on music blocks.

But how come she isn’t on TV, Mr. Intern? And does Ailes pay you anything for spamming on lefty web sites?

Joshua Hateway said:

That graphic was put up in humor.

Robert Urban replied to this point by saying:

So you are now saying the WHOLE SEGMENT was reported as humor? Because why would they Chyron asinine graphics while a supposedly serious commentator, they invited, speaks on camera? You are saying that they used and belittled what he was talking about so they could show some graphics as a joke as this invited guest says whats on his mind, and what he has to say as irrelevant as he was only there to be used as the butt of a joke. Please tell this speaker that he was brought on to be used as the CIRCUS CLOWN you feel he was used as.

Joshua Hateway said:

…I knew that was a video. I just wondered where one was on my first post to be funny.

All the questions Joshua was asked, that’s his reply. That he knew all along the “graphic” was a video. And yet again lying about what he commented. I think it’s safe to say he’s done on this thread. Just ignore him until he gets tired or sees something shiny.

Also, is anyone else suddenly reminded of Bob? I mean, Joshua’s line has always sounded like Bob’s sock puppets, but this thread… he doesn’t even sound like the puppets, he sounds like Bob.

BTW your links and arguments on the merits of the “trillion dollar coin” (whilst i disagree) are valid and good. Why did you not make your piece on that, instead of this rubbish?

Secondly, this site is always maligning Fox News for being one sided with no dissenting views. Sally Kohn is just one example that views expressed by Fox employees are not homogenous.

Thirdly, the “trillion dollar coin” idea is not happening, so arguing about it is nonsense.

Aria, I did click the clip. It showed the graphic, but they weren’t even talking about it. You and I both now Fox News does not hold the position that if this dreadful idea went through, there would be a 17000 ton coin minted. Yet you lead your readers to believe it so.

@aria – Game, set and match.

Oh, and BTW… here’s Sally Kohn using her foxnews.com space to say that she supports the coin because she’s sick of the GOP’s hostage taking bullshit, while subtly telling the rest of Fox News to knock their crap off. Note that I said “subtle,” meaning I’ll probably have to come back just to explain it to you, Joshua.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/11/trillion-dollar-coin-hey-let-mint-it/

Joshua, normally I wouldn’t give you the time of day, past a quick joke at your expense- Largely because your history of posting here has me convinced you’re basically an adult illiterate that’s having his wife type his replies for him.

But I don’t like you implying that I’m a liar, so I’m going to have to step in here.

On this article alone, you demanded a video, proving that you didn’t click on the “graphic” to see that one was provided. But after busting yourself on your inability to do even that, you presumed to know Fox News’ intentions- Twice.

Which is why I doubt that you clicked either link, or watched one segment Fox News did about the coin- because if you had, you would have seen that economic scholars dismissed the idea as silly on it’s face, but a good idea for how to prevent another Boehner led hostage strategy. That is actually it’s stated purpose:

If the Republicans try to hold the debt ceiling raise — and by consequence the American economy — as a hostage in their war on government services, the trillion-dollar coin is a way to get around the vote entirely

It serves no purpose other than to stop the Repulican’s hostage strategy in it’s tracks. And don’t kid yourself- They are playing that game again:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/debt-ceiling-hostage-enablers.html

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/01/08/16415628-what-happens-if-the-gop-shoots-the-hostage?lite

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/11/business-leaders-to-gop-no-more-debt-limit-hostage-taking/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/13/paul-krugman-debt-ceiling_n_2467718.html

There’s four sources- If you wanna cry about bias to get out of reading them, I can link up more. The mere fact that I have to tell you this is why everyone’s commenting on how you look even more unwilling to prove you can read, let alone reflect than usual.

If you don’t like being referred to as an illiterate idiot that doesn’t know anything Fox News doesn’t want him to know, how about you start trying to act like you’re anything else?