As we speak, this country is reeling from the second worst school shooting in our sordid history of gun violence. Innocent adults and children were murdered by somebody whose motives might never be clear. It is a tragedy of monumental proportion. But in the midst of the initial shock, some members of the Christian right, the group for whom Fox News provides a loud mouthpiece, are claiming that this hideous incident occurred because religion has been taken out of the public schools. Bryan Fischer of the SPLC hate group, the American Family Association, said that God doesn't want to protect places where he's not welcome. And as if that isn't bad enough, Fox's very own Mike Huckabee echoed Fischer with the comment made to Neil Cavuto that this happened because "we've systematically removed God from our schools." Is there any question as to why the GOP and its media arm have no credibility!
HUCKABEE: Ultimately, you can take away every gun in America and somebody will use a bomb. When somebody has an intent to do incredible damage, they’re going to find a way to do it… People will want to pass new laws, but unless you change people’s hearts, they’re our transition to the pastor side. This is a heart issue, it’s not something, laws don’t change this kind of thing.
CAVUTO: You know, inevitably people ask after tragedies like this, how could God let this happen?
HUCKABEE: Well, you know, it’s an interesting thing. We ask why there is violence in our schools but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage? Because we’ve made it a place where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability - that we’re not just going to have be accountable to the police if they catch us, but one day we stand before, you know, a holy God in judgment. If we don’t believe that, then we don’t fear that. And so I sometimes, when people say, why did God let it happen. You know, God wasn’t armed. He didn’t go to the school. But God will be there in the form of a lot people with hugs and with therapy and awhole lot of ways in which he will be involved in the aftermath. Maybe we ought to let him in on the front end and we wouldn’t have to call him to show up it’s all said and done at the back end.
So it's all about the evil public schools rejecting God. Doesn't Huckabee know that the Supreme Court of the US ruled that school prayer is a violation of the First Amendment? Oh, right, Mike Huckabee would like a re-write of the Constitution so that it's in "God's standards." How does Huckabee square the fact that the worst excesses of Jim Crow happened in states where those perpetrating the violence had their primers in one hand and a bible in the other? Those who massacred native Americans probably said prayers in school. And despite Mike's contention that there is no God in school, kids say a pledge, every day, to a country that's supposedly "under God."
There are so many things to say; but most of them would be laden with obscenities so I'll stop here...
Our thoughts are with the students, families, and first responders who are dealing with this tragedy.
“When you take God out of the public square this is the result. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.”
So, Mouse — does this mean the Aurora, CO shootings were the result of taking God out of the movie theaters?
“Had some actually been armed and able to shoot they may have stopped this whole thing. You libtards are stupid and I have no use for you.”
That’s right, Mouse: parents today need to ensure that when they drop off their kids at school, along with their books, computer, and lunch, they be properly armed with a SiG/S&W/Colt.
And he calls us stupid . . .
Yep, that’s why military towns are the very definition of sa- oh, right.
Everyone being armed and trained does nothing to stop crime- If anything, it gives the offenders a better idea of who’s the biggest threat fighting back.
Now, to go link this to the thread about this point.
So a “nativity scene” would have prevented the murder’s of those kids and faculty?
Why not just arm the kids? What if there teacher goes crazy and brings a gun?
I for one don’t think students with guns is a very good idea, but maybe I’m the only one.
A better idea might be to have paid security personel on school campus, but too many right-wingers would complain about the tax dollars that would be required to pay for it. So that likely won’t be happening either.
The sad reality is we have a small but vocal percentage of the population who thinks like Huckabee. That’s one of the reasons nothing will change, along with the money and power of the NRA.
This is right there with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Billdo.
What do those morons, and others, have in common?
They bray and fart day after day after day after day that the USA is a xtian nation and its the greatest country in the creation. But when something like this happens they conveniently forget the cult to the second amendment and instead blame the dogless secularists.
You know, since we Progressives and Leftists and Moderates are trying to keep a SECULAR government, not a fugging THEOCRACY, since we want our kids in public schools to learn facts and science not devotion to fairy tales, since we want to defend the basic rights of ANY citizen, since we support safety nets for those in need, when something like this happens, IT IS OUR FAULT because we have so offended God.
So, what is the wingnut solution for this sin?
Why?! Of course!
- Prayer in public schools.
- Prayer and the ten commandments in the courts and government buildings.
- Pray away teh gay.
- Nativity scenes and xtian religious symbols on government property.
- Religious symbols on the currency.
- Rejection of birth control methods and having sex for procreation purposes only.
We could go on and on with their idiotic beliefs.
But HEY, you can’t talk about gun control.
NO SIREEEE BOB!… NO gun control!
IT IS IN THE CONSTIPATION!
IT IS WHAT THE xtian FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED!
At present people murdered in the name of God leads in fatalities by a factor of millions.
If in doubt, ask the descendents of the blacks who were slaughtered since the Civil War by Christians of Huck’s ilk, specifically those from the backwoods state of Arkansas where this oppotunist pig is from.
Where was their almighty god when MILLIONS died in wars in his/her name?
And now the ‘religious’ blame those of us who have fought against war, guns and violence because we have asked that Mr. Make-Believe no longer be a pre-requisite to an education?
Just fuck these people.
And if there IS a god, please let them be smite so hard that they return to under the rocks from whence they came.
…sooo, we might as well continue to make it as easy as possible for somebody to do so? This argument doesn’t make any sense to me.
Huckabee’s logic fails- and shame on him for kicking himself in the ass to exploit this.
As opposed, say, the shooter?
Must be more of that “personal responsibility” rightwingnuts are always talking about.
Oh well — at least Huck isn’t advocating more guns be carried in the school as a preventative measure; I’m sure responsible right would never advocate such a thing . . . right?