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Mike Huckabee Blames CT Shooting On Godless Public Schools

Posted by Priscilla 0.20pc on December 14, 2012 · Flag

As we speak, this country is reeling from the second worst school shooting in our sordid history of gun violence. Innocent adults and children were murdered by somebody whose motives might never be clear. It is a tragedy of monumental proportion. But in the midst of the initial shock, some members of the Christian right, the group for whom Fox News provides a loud mouthpiece, are claiming that this hideous incident occurred because religion has been taken out of the public schools. Bryan Fischer of the SPLC hate group, the American Family Association, said that God doesn't want to protect places where he's not welcome. And as if that isn't bad enough, Fox's very own Mike Huckabee echoed Fischer with the comment made to Neil Cavuto that this happened because "we've systematically removed God from our schools." Is there any question as to why the GOP and its media arm have no credibility! 

HUCKABEE: Ultimately, you can take away every gun in America and somebody will use a bomb. When somebody has an intent to do incredible damage, they’re going to find a way to do it… People will want to pass new laws, but unless you change people’s hearts, they’re our transition to the pastor side. This is a heart issue, it’s not something, laws don’t change this kind of thing.

CAVUTO: You know, inevitably people ask after tragedies like this, how could God let this happen?

HUCKABEE: Well, you know, it’s an interesting thing. We ask why there is violence in our schools but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage? Because we’ve made it a place where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability - that we’re not just going to have be accountable to the police if they catch us, but one day we stand before, you know, a holy God in judgment. If we don’t believe that, then we don’t fear that. And so I sometimes, when people say, why did God let it happen. You know, God wasn’t armed. He didn’t go to the school. But God will be there in the form of a lot people with hugs and with therapy and awhole lot of ways in which he will be involved in the aftermath. Maybe we ought to let him in on the front end and we wouldn’t have to call him to show up it’s all said and done at the back end.

So it's all about the evil public schools rejecting God. Doesn't Huckabee know that the Supreme Court of the US ruled that school prayer is a violation of the First Amendment? Oh, right, Mike Huckabee would like a re-write of the Constitution so that it's in "God's standards." How does Huckabee square the fact that the worst excesses of Jim Crow happened in states where those perpetrating the violence had their primers in one hand and a bible in the other? Those who massacred native Americans probably said prayers in school. And despite Mike's contention that there is no God in school, kids say a pledge, every day, to a country that's supposedly "under God."

There are so many things to say; but most of them would be laden with obscenities so I'll stop here...

Our thoughts are with the students, families, and first responders who are dealing with this tragedy.


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Sharon Rees commented 2012-12-17 02:53:23 -0500 · Flag
I don’t agree with those who say God wasn’t here because the kids couldn’t pray. I’m not sure I totally agree with Huckabee, either. But he did not say this happened because the kids weren’t praying. He said that because God has been taken out of the schools, the kids are not being taught about life, eternity, etc. There is an elephant standing in the middle of the room that you all are trying to ignore. If we all just evolved (and this is as much a fairy tale as any mythology out there), then there is no reason that I cannot shoot children, cut down all the trees, and kill all the polar bears as long as I am the ‘fittest.’ There is no room in evolution for moral law. What right do you have to tell me what I can and cannot do? Many of our children have made this connection. ‘I can do what I want and you can’t stop me.’ Does this mean that everyone who believes in evolution is going to kill people? Of course not, because they were taught a moral law. Does this mean that everyone who claims to be a Christian is going to be ‘good?’ Again, no. That’s why the Bible says, by their fruits you will know them. There will always be evil people who use religion and the gullibility of the masses for their own benefit. We certainly see this with evolution/humanism. If there is moral law, there has to be a universal law-giver. You can’t have it both ways.
Sharon Rees commented 2012-12-17 02:38:05 -0500 · Flag
@aria prescott quit cherry picking your data – the link you gave shows that the crime rate was higher in a FEW military towns and it had to do with property crimes (military bases with a high number a single, young men in them). It had nothing to do with violent crime. The article went on to say that the area around most military bases is much safer than the national average ESPECIALLY in violent crime. This had nothing to do with guns or violent crimes.
David Brown commented 2012-12-16 20:44:02 -0500 · Flag
mouse airhorne –
Let me express my admiration at your ability to demonstrate how much of a giant ignoramus a-hole idiot dumbass you are in under 30 words.
We have no use for you or your enormous pile of stupid ignorance either. Please leave the nation immediately. Your idiocy is what is harming the nation.

I can’t believe any one would be stupid enough to suggest that first graders should be armed. And then to compound your gross and unbelievably vast ignorance by claiming somehow that prayer in school would have prevented this.

You obviously lack a singe operational brain cell. How do you live without a functioning brain? Please explain how all of the prayer that you obviously have wasted your time on has done much good. How is it that all of the prayer in churches have failed to stop the violence, you pea-brained moron?

Your ignorance is vaster than the god that you delude yourself about…and how could you worship or believe in such a being that finds it expedient to have someone murder first graders? You are a dangerous lunatic and you belong in an asylum for beleiving such idiotic lunacy and the fact that you can’t see that your church prayer has failed – FAILED MISERABLY!!
Only a shit-for-brains think something like school prayer will stop school killings. You brain cell less idiot.

We have no use for brain damaged idiots like your self you delusional dumb f**K….
Visitor 55 commented 2012-12-16 15:05:02 -0500 · Flag
LOL @mouse airhead. You sound just like mike pHuckleberry….stupid. Stop swallowing the bullshit.
mj - the same one commented 2012-12-15 13:46:39 -0500 · Flag
@mouse Airhorn:

“When you take God out of the public square this is the result. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.”

So, Mouse — does this mean the Aurora, CO shootings were the result of taking God out of the movie theaters?

“Had some actually been armed and able to shoot they may have stopped this whole thing. You libtards are stupid and I have no use for you.”

That’s right, Mouse: parents today need to ensure that when they drop off their kids at school, along with their books, computer, and lunch, they be properly armed with a SiG/S&W/Colt.

And he calls us stupid . . .

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Aria Prescott commented 2012-12-15 13:06:27 -0500 · Flag
Had some actually been armed and able to shoot they may have stopped this whole thing.

Yep, that’s why military towns are the very definition of sa- oh, right.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/16/most-dangerous-military-towns/

Everyone being armed and trained does nothing to stop crime- If anything, it gives the offenders a better idea of who’s the biggest threat fighting back.

Now, to go link this to the thread about this point.
Sandman2 commented 2012-12-15 11:42:22 -0500 · Flag
@mouse Airhorne

So a “nativity scene” would have prevented the murder’s of those kids and faculty?

Why not just arm the kids? What if there teacher goes crazy and brings a gun?
I for one don’t think students with guns is a very good idea, but maybe I’m the only one.

A better idea might be to have paid security personel on school campus, but too many right-wingers would complain about the tax dollars that would be required to pay for it. So that likely won’t be happening either.
Moose Airborne commented 2012-12-15 10:24:26 -0500 · Flag
When you take God out of the public square this is the result. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.
Moose Airborne commented 2012-12-15 10:23:14 -0500 · Flag
Had some actually been armed and able to shoot they may have stopped this whole thing. You libtards are stupid and I have no use for you.
doors17 commented 2012-12-15 09:48:32 -0500 · Flag
Does this mean that God was removed from the mall in Portland and the movie theather in Aurora, Colorado?

The sad reality is we have a small but vocal percentage of the population who thinks like Huckabee. That’s one of the reasons nothing will change, along with the money and power of the NRA.
R L commented 2012-12-15 09:38:28 -0500 · Flag
so as this tragedy unfolds this contemptible ass clown wants to push his agenda but it’s to early to have a discussion on sensible gun laws?
Average American Patriot commented 2012-12-15 09:19:06 -0500 · Flag
The stupidity exhibited by Paster Fried Squirrel makes me worry about the basic education and intelligence, both secular and religious, of wingnutz watching Fox.

This is right there with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Billdo.

What do those morons, and others, have in common?

They bray and fart day after day after day after day that the USA is a xtian nation and its the greatest country in the creation. But when something like this happens they conveniently forget the cult to the second amendment and instead blame the dogless secularists.

You know, since we Progressives and Leftists and Moderates are trying to keep a SECULAR government, not a fugging THEOCRACY, since we want our kids in public schools to learn facts and science not devotion to fairy tales, since we want to defend the basic rights of ANY citizen, since we support safety nets for those in need, when something like this happens, IT IS OUR FAULT because we have so offended God.

So, what is the wingnut solution for this sin?
Why?! Of course!
- Prayer in public schools.
- Prayer and the ten commandments in the courts and government buildings.
- Pray away teh gay.
- Nativity scenes and xtian religious symbols on government property.
- Religious symbols on the currency.
- Rejection of birth control methods and having sex for procreation purposes only.

We could go on and on with their idiotic beliefs.
But HEY, you can’t talk about gun control.

NO SIREEEE BOB!… NO gun control!
IT IS IN THE CONSTIPATION!
IT IS WHAT THE xtian FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED!
bemused commented 2012-12-15 08:57:59 -0500 · Flag
@kent. Yup. All those wars between different flavors of Christianity, between Christianity and Islam (starting with the Crusades), between different flavors of Islam, and that’s only the most recent ones. Not exactly good testimony for the power of prayer.
Kent Brockman commented 2012-12-15 08:06:51 -0500 · Flag
Note to Huckster

At present people murdered in the name of God leads in fatalities by a factor of millions.
bemused commented 2012-12-15 06:58:50 -0500 · Flag
Just came to mind that an awful lot of mass shootings seem to have happened at places of worship, both Christian and non-Christian. If I remember correctly, those places are all about prayer and yet…
Kortez Tk commented 2012-12-15 06:45:52 -0500 · Flag
Mike Huckabee is a fraud and a disgrace. That he pretends to be a man of god only makes him more disappointing. Which god? Which religion? Where is the proof, etc., etc.
bemused commented 2012-12-15 05:21:51 -0500 · Flag
@david Brown: excellent point. Will be using it liberally in future.
Bob Roberts commented 2012-12-15 03:19:54 -0500 · Flag
Jeez, I figured the conservatives would just comment on any liberals who dared to bring up gun control or just blame it on the all-encompassing “evil” they so like to use. Instead, we get that jackass Huckster going all Pat Robertson over the shootings. Not so un-friggin-believable.
mj - the same one commented 2012-12-15 02:20:48 -0500 · Flag
I always wonder: Whenever Huck and others advocate for prayer in public, nondenominational schools, does that mean they’ll have no opposition to Muslim students bringing their prayer rugs and facing Mecca three times daily during the school day, too?

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Joseph West commented 2012-12-15 02:02:40 -0500 · Flag
Minor correction, Priscilla. The Supreme Court has only ruled that ORGANIZED prayer, involving school faculty or administrators, is barred from public schools. Students retain the right to pray—even in the most evil of secular schools. They’re even allowed to organize groups of students—though such activity is supposed to be either before or after school in such a way as to not interfere with other students’ receiving an education.
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