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Bemused commented
2012-10-13 03:31:41 -0400
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@Visitor 55 and Mlp!: Spot on.
@Kathleen: how NOT to win friends and INFLUENCE people = enter their territory and start lecturing at them.
The channels I’ve watched call it pretty much of a draw and those you refer us to do NOT say that anybody won (except for CBS and I’m sure they’re trying to find out how that happened. During an interview on StudioB yesterday, the one cheering happily was the Republican but I see nothing wrong with that. Why should I? Or you?
The Democrat (a lady to whom the republican was sardonically disdainful, IMO) said that Biden had energised the base. Shucks, I recall that as being what the talking heads on Fox have been saying over and over again since last week. Goose and gander, not a matter for sanctimonious outrage.
Oh dear, I do believe I just lectured the new gal on the block.
@Kathleen: how NOT to win friends and INFLUENCE people = enter their territory and start lecturing at them.
The channels I’ve watched call it pretty much of a draw and those you refer us to do NOT say that anybody won (except for CBS and I’m sure they’re trying to find out how that happened. During an interview on StudioB yesterday, the one cheering happily was the Republican but I see nothing wrong with that. Why should I? Or you?
The Democrat (a lady to whom the republican was sardonically disdainful, IMO) said that Biden had energised the base. Shucks, I recall that as being what the talking heads on Fox have been saying over and over again since last week. Goose and gander, not a matter for sanctimonious outrage.
Oh dear, I do believe I just lectured the new gal on the block.
mlp ! commented
2012-10-12 12:06:59 -0400
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“Has no one watched anything other than Fox to know that nearly every news outlet both in the U.S. & elsewhere are not quite so enchanted with Biden as you are?”
You’re absolutely right…we denizens of Newshounds live in caves, and get ALL our news from MSNBC, Dailykos, and, of course, Newshounds. And since we are all largely unemployed (supported solely by George Soros) we should have plenty of time to broaden our horizons. However, because of the recreational drugs we use, maybe not that much ‘coherent’ time.
But, hey, thanks for your concern, Kathleen! Maybe some day we’ll all learn to think in such a rational, unbiased and humanitarian manner such as yours!
And, then, maybe not……..
You’re absolutely right…we denizens of Newshounds live in caves, and get ALL our news from MSNBC, Dailykos, and, of course, Newshounds. And since we are all largely unemployed (supported solely by George Soros) we should have plenty of time to broaden our horizons. However, because of the recreational drugs we use, maybe not that much ‘coherent’ time.
But, hey, thanks for your concern, Kathleen! Maybe some day we’ll all learn to think in such a rational, unbiased and humanitarian manner such as yours!
And, then, maybe not……..
truman commented
2012-10-12 10:26:28 -0400
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@visitor55. You are absolutely correct. I just completed a brief visit to the Fux Noise and Fux Nation toxic websites. Not one peep on either about Lying Ryan and his budget bullshit. But lots of contempt for VP Joe Biden for laughing at Lying Ryan. This all from a faux news organization that devotes itself 24/7 to sliming our President as a Muslim, socialist, foreign-born traitor.
Antoinette commented
2012-10-12 02:49:32 -0400
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Biden won hands down. He destroyed Ryan on facts, especially on Middle East issues.
Peter Lynch commented
2012-10-12 00:01:38 -0400
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Jeez – how long has Juan Williams been on Hannity’s republican rehab show? He looks as if he would rather take his bag and go home.
d d commented
2012-10-11 23:49:41 -0400
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Chris Wallace said that Biden’s grins/laughs were the most disrespectable thing he’s seen in all the years of debates that he’s watched (I guess Chris didn’t hear Romney call Obama a liar in last week’s debate?). Krauthammer said that if you listened to Biden you would think he had won but if you watched him that his grins, etc. actually caused him to lose. Hannity said he can’t wait until he gets back to the studio to montage Biden’s facial expressions. He said that he thinks that Biden’s face will be the “big story” coming out of the debate. The big story? Are you freakin’ kidding me?!
Gawd, this is what’s so wrong with FOX “news” and so much of our other media outlets. It shouldn’t be about who smirked, who “looked good”, who interrupted more and all this other shallow bullsh!t. It should be about the facts, consistency, issue positions, etc. – you know, stuff that actually matters! But, noooo, they instead get caught up in the unimportant, superficial crap and push it as if it actually matters.
Btw, I see that no matter how much Martha tried, Ryan would not give us the details of their plan to make the math work. Nah, instead we got the standard, evasive line that we’ll work all that out with Congress after we get elected. Pfffft.
And just as I’m getting ready to post this, Hannity once again said that he has a “funny feeling that in the next few days” Biden’s rude tone and mannerisms “will be the story of this debate”. Yeah, if Hannity and those of his ilk have their way, that’s exactly what will happen. Geez.
Gawd, this is what’s so wrong with FOX “news” and so much of our other media outlets. It shouldn’t be about who smirked, who “looked good”, who interrupted more and all this other shallow bullsh!t. It should be about the facts, consistency, issue positions, etc. – you know, stuff that actually matters! But, noooo, they instead get caught up in the unimportant, superficial crap and push it as if it actually matters.
Btw, I see that no matter how much Martha tried, Ryan would not give us the details of their plan to make the math work. Nah, instead we got the standard, evasive line that we’ll work all that out with Congress after we get elected. Pfffft.
And just as I’m getting ready to post this, Hannity once again said that he has a “funny feeling that in the next few days” Biden’s rude tone and mannerisms “will be the story of this debate”. Yeah, if Hannity and those of his ilk have their way, that’s exactly what will happen. Geez.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 23:22:53 -0400
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Here comes Palin. She’s sure to be insightful… not!
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 23:16:02 -0400
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Surprised Hannity hasn’t painted Obama as a racist yet.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 23:10:34 -0400
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Hahaha, Frank Luntz’ focus group seems to think Biden won.
Carol Gruber commented
2012-10-11 23:03:47 -0400
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Apparently, personal responsibility isn’t for Afghans either. Since Ryan insists that we keep our troops over there. I wanted the mod to ask him exactly how we get out of there if we can’t withdraw our troops gradually.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 23:01:38 -0400
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Hannity show is coming up. He’s sure to be in a bullyboy pique. Better call a wah-mbulance now!
Peter Lynch commented
2012-10-11 23:01:23 -0400
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I think they will want to change the subject pretty quickly. Vice-presidential debate? Nothing to see here!
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 22:59:54 -0400
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Yes, personal responsibility is only for poor people and minorities. Everyone on the right is a perpetual victim!
Peter Lynch commented
2012-10-11 22:56:48 -0400
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Yes ellen it is good to watch them concocting a message to remove any negative impact there may be on their sheople of a brief view of a democrat making sense.
They must hate having to present the uneditted debate.
They must hate having to present the uneditted debate.
Bemused commented
2012-10-11 22:43:35 -0400
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Oops. My last post:
first sentence was Thune’s
second one was mine.
first sentence was Thune’s
second one was mine.
mlp ! commented
2012-10-11 22:42:17 -0400
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I’m in a VERY strong RW area right now. They totally feel that Ms. Raddatz was clearly the problem. No discussion of the issues.
Me? I’m typing and smiling….inwardly.
Funny thing……this is a highly union area, at least for those that have retired here. I wonder sometimes why they so strongly support those that threaten their actual and very real interests. Scott Walker won this area during his recall, incidentally.
Me? I’m typing and smiling….inwardly.
Funny thing……this is a highly union area, at least for those that have retired here. I wonder sometimes why they so strongly support those that threaten their actual and very real interests. Scott Walker won this area during his recall, incidentally.
Bemused commented
2012-10-11 22:42:12 -0400
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John Thune (SD): Ryan didn’t really mean Iran has fissile material for five bombs, only that they were increasing their supply.
I know that politicians like hyperbole but the fate of the world is at stake, here!
Sheesh. “Did Ryan lie?” asked the AlJazeera reporter: Thune responds, I don’t know if he lied but …
I know that politicians like hyperbole but the fate of the world is at stake, here!
Sheesh. “Did Ryan lie?” asked the AlJazeera reporter: Thune responds, I don’t know if he lied but …
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 22:42:04 -0400
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Shocker! Greta Van Susteren very surprised and disappointed by Biden’s behavior.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 22:40:44 -0400
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Actually, this is one of the easier times to watch Fox.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 22:38:49 -0400
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FNC Democrat Joe Trippi complaining Biden overdid it with the smirking.
Peter Lynch commented
2012-10-11 22:34:50 -0400
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Wolf Blitzer – “looks like a draw”. I can’t bring myself to view faux. Thank god for ellen.
Bemused commented
2012-10-11 22:34:06 -0400
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Alan Fisher on AlJazeera: "the republicans think Ryan won and the democrats are delighted with Biden. "
Bemused commented
2012-10-11 22:31:59 -0400
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I’ve still to understand what’s included in those five points Romney/ryan keep mentioning. No specifics.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 22:28:44 -0400
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OMG, Ryan just said he had “honesty” to give the country as his character.
Ellen commented
2012-10-11 22:27:19 -0400
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Like how Joe is now going soft and gentle – but still strong.
Peter Lynch commented
2012-10-11 22:25:39 -0400
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At the bar? They’re sorry for Ryan? People with chemically altered minds don’t often get it right.