Two takeaways. Pastor Pence was flaccid (was that Mother Pence’s comment or Nicolle Wallace?). And the Pastor is a magnet for flies (just like a pile of horse dung).

To my mind, the format is all wrong: too patchy, not conducive to the presentation of a coherent response as opposed to slogans and talking points. The debates would be a lot more interesting were they to adopt Robert’s Rules of Order: introductory staements, rebuttals, counter rebuttals and concluding statements. And the mic should automatically go mute when anyone’s time is up. Don’t leave that up to the “moderator”.

To my mind, Pence took a page from his boss causing him to talk over/interrupt Harris repeatedly. It’s infuriating to watch as some CNN pundits “equivalence” because Harris did so a couple of times. Same frustration at the “equivalencing” over the one time Harris evaded a question and the multiple times Pence did so. I do so hope CNN won’t fall (again) into the trap of trying to appear neutral by presenting both sides as being equally guilty of whatever (“equivalencing”) when one side is clearly more at fault than the other.

Pence was passive-aggressive as expected but anybody familiar with the WH talking points could not but conclude that he has nothing to add to Trump’s positions. That supports Kevin’s conviction that Pence is the puppeteer and that he wants any blame going around to be laid at Trump’s door.

PS: Pence went on and on about the great job that Americans had done in keeping the death rate down. Harris should have reminded him that the situation got really bad precisely because they followed the misguided messages from the WH. Had those messages been based on what the President already knew in January/February 2020, the US would not be experiencing a raging pandemic. The WH’s failure to listen to science is what caused the pandemic to be a lot worse than it might have been.

Thanks Ellen. You added much to the evening :)

Hannity is over the moon. He’s got DJTJ on, which I will post about tomorrow. For now, I’m signing off.

I’ve never actually spent that much time focussed on him before, but that did not look like a well man. The picture above says it all.

Nicolle Wallace said Pence was flaccid.

Karen Pence came on stage without a mask.

I missed the fly in Pence’s hair, LOL.

I thought Harris probably came out better but some of her answers could have been punchier.

Some friends of mine have been commenting on Pence’s pink eye and saying that it’s a symptom of COVID.

OMG. All I can think of is all the flies that swarmed the windows in the demon house in Amityville Horror. Are they gonna swarm Pence?

The American people should be asked their opinion after Joe is elected if they would like to see the court packed. I say yes. That’s one vote.

And the apparent truth that the blob has also paid multiple women to have his fetuses aborted.

Pence says he’s proud to work with a president “who stands for the sanctity of life.” I hope Harris zings him with the 210,000 dead Americans and the dead troops.

From the Palmer Report

palmerreport.com

We’re barely half an hour into the VP debate, and three things are already clear. First, Mike Pence has decided to run his mouth almost nonstop, routinely going far over his time limit, ignoring the moderator’s instructions, and interrupting Kamala Harris while she’s speaking.

Second, this moderator is a complete joke. She keeps letting Mike Pence walk all over her in terms of interruptions, running long, and nonstop lies. Even more bizarrely, the moderator has been insistent on holding Kamala Harris as tightly to the rules as possible, even as Pence is allowed to do whatever he wants.

Third, even though this debate is a complete joke so far, Kamala Harris is undoubtedly winning it. She’s taken advantage of the comparatively limited time she’s been given, and she’s landed several shots at Pence. No one can possibly be enjoying watching this joke of a debate, but the one thing they’ll remember when it’s over is Kamala’s “Mr. Vice President, I’m speaking” line.

Biden or Harris needs to bring up that mission Trump ordered two weeks into office that Obama rejected that killed a US soldier. The soldier’s dad even cut an ad for Biden!

Agreed, Ellen. She’s showing empathy, something not one of The Great Blob’s bunch would recognise if it jumped up and give them a haircut.

Now, she’s talking Russian bounties on US soldiers.

Harris now working in “suckers and losers” in response to Pence attacking Obama/Biden over Iran nuclear deal.

Where’s that goddamn kill switch, Susan??

Look down the barrel, Kamala. When Ol’ Handsome Joe did it, the difference was immediate. You’re talking to us (and US), not the referee.

I actually think Harris has struck the right note in her responses. But that’s just me.

John McKee, that’s what I had to do. Fortunately, my TV reception is back now.

Harris hammering Trump for taking the word of Putin over Intel community.

Got this sorted now. I’ve got two tabs open on this topic – one to listen and one to update the comments.

I’m with Marge. This plastic prick is just his master’s voice put through a smoother filter.

Why don’t they have a mic cut button? Why isn’t the moderator more assertive and authoritative getting Pence to shut his yap when he’s supposed too? Why isn’t Harris? Arragh

Pence asked if he believes climate change is an existential threat, he talks about Biden raising taxes and accusing Biden of banning fracking.

Harris: We have seen a pattern with this administration which is they don’t believe in science (talking about climate change).

Pence said Trump will “continue to listen to science” on climate change. I really don’t understand how his nose isn’t always growing.