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Pennsylvania Special Election In The 18th District – Open Thread

Posted by Ellen -7859.80pc on March 13, 2018 · Flag

We will soon find out whether the winner in the closely-contested special election for Pennsylvania’s 18th Congressional District is Republican Rick Saccone or Democrat Conor Lamb.

I’ll be watching Fox News. What coverage are you watching? Or are you skipping it altogether?

Share your thoughts and observations below.

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mlp ! commented 2018-03-14 18:23:35 -0400 · Flag
YAY.
doors17 commented 2018-03-14 12:20:58 -0400 · Flag
Fox & Friends said this morning that Lamb won because he’s cute…https://thinkprogress.org/fox-and-friends-conor-lamb-cute-aa97517c459a/
Richard Santalone commented 2018-03-14 12:13:37 -0400 · Flag
From Eyes On Fox’s comment:

“The GOP trumpeting their tax scam was supposed to be their slam-dunk election 2018 election strategy. It went down in flames as Lamb took it head on pointing out its inequity. 🤑”

Dear EOF: That’s probably because Lamb kept pointing out Universal Tax Rule #1 from the Pulitzer Prize winning journalists Donald Barlett & James Steele (authors of the national bestsellers “America: What Went Wrong?” and “America: Who Really Pays The Taxes?”) and David Cay Johnston (author of the national bestsellers “Free Lunch” and “Perfectly Legal”): no matter how you slice it, when rich individuals and big multinational corporations don’t pay taxes or pay less than their fair share, WORKING CLASS AMERICANS (including me) ALWAYS GET STUCK MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THE END!
Richard Santalone commented 2018-03-14 12:07:33 -0400 · Flag
@ truman Actually truman, with all due respect, if Lamb Does wind up prevailing, expect Fuehrer Twitler (i.e. Trump) to scream “FAKE NEWS!” and “VOTER FRAUD!” ad infinitum.
truman commented 2018-03-14 09:39:01 -0400 · Flag
Woke up this morning with Lamb still in the lead. A very nice way to start the day.

Demented Donnie will say that Saccone would have won if he had more fervently embraced Trumpism.
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-14 09:16:07 -0400 · Flag
Well, I woke up and the race still isn’t called which I find surprising. Watching MSNBC there doesn’t appear to be enough outstanding provisional, military and absentee ballots to overcome Lamb’s thin lead.

Regardless, there are 2 huge wins in this race for the Democrats:

1. Trump is proven toxic to the GOP brand. 🤡
2. The GOP trumpeting their tax scam was supposed to be their slam-dunk election 2018 election strategy. It went down in flames as Lamb took it head on pointing out its inequity. 🤑

Gaining a temporary seat for 8 months as this district gets de-gerrymandered is just the gravy!
Marge Arnold commented 2018-03-14 08:39:10 -0400 · Flag
Looks like Lamb the Sham Bumped the Trump.
Guess the old saying is true after all.
March does come in like a lion and goes out like a Lamb.
Sorry. Couldn’t resist.
Bemused commented 2018-03-14 08:19:58 -0400 · Flag
Even if Lamb should lose, the fact that he got so close will give the GOPers nightmares for months to come.
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-14 00:59:11 -0400 · Flag
Oops… I said CNN did the 70% calculation. Actually it was MSNBC. It’s late and I’m sleepy. 😴
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-14 00:57:11 -0400 · Flag
Daily Kos, a decidedly partisan source, declared it in favor of Lamb in their live blog. King on CNN upped the percentage of absentee votes Saccone needs to win. If I recall, even if Saccone wins 70% of the outstanding absentee ballots he falls short.

So, yes, it’s too close to call but I’d rather be Lamb than Saccone at this point.
Ellen commented 2018-03-14 00:51:38 -0400 · Flag
NBC interrupted to say that no news organization has called the race. While he’s speaking, the lower third banner says, “NBC News has not declared a winner.”

Fox merely says, “Lamb declares himself winner” and race “too close to call.”
Ellen commented 2018-03-14 00:44:51 -0400 · Flag
I never saw him speak before. He really is a picture-perfect candidate.
Ellen commented 2018-03-14 00:44:25 -0400 · Flag
Lamb is declaring victory.
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-13 23:30:27 -0400 · Flag
Westmoreland County has decided to count their ballots as well. Results should be in by midnight.

Still cautiously optimistic. Saccone will have to outperform his precinct performance with his absentee ballot performance to win according to CNN. Like 62-63% in his favor. His precinct performance sub-60% with (I think) 3 precincts in Westmoreland not reporting for whatever reason. I hope the 3 unreported precincts aren’t corrupt GOPers waiting to know how many ballots to stuff into the box for the win.
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 23:28:14 -0400 · Flag
I’d say a prayer, but Saccone said Lamb supporters hate God.
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 23:26:52 -0400 · Flag
.38 right now
Ellen commented 2018-03-13 23:26:35 -0400 · Flag
Kornacki thinks it’s unlikely Saccone can catch up.
Ellen commented 2018-03-13 23:24:44 -0400 · Flag
I’m watching MSNBC because Fox keep cutting away from election. Kornacki said there is a recount if the difference is .5 or less.
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-13 23:20:52 -0400 · Flag
Washington County just reversed themselves. They’re going to scan AND hand count their 1,195 absentee ballots tonight. The count will be all released at once. Better be a night owl because it’s going to take a couple of hours to count them.
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-13 23:13:09 -0400 · Flag
There is no automatic recount according to CNN. That said, certainly the GOP will call for one of they lose out of shear desperation.

CNN has Lamb up by 847 with Allegheny County – Lamb country – done. By done I mean 100% in + absentee ballots 100% counted. Meanwhile, Westmoreland County and Washington County – Saccone country – won’t count their absentee ballots until tomorrow morning.

Even Rick Santorum on CNN is giving the edge to Lamb. Say your prayers before you go to bed! 😇
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 23:07:17 -0400 · Flag
President Rump said " Thousands of Harrible, Harrible people voted illegally".
truman commented 2018-03-13 22:57:46 -0400 · Flag
Lamb up by less than 100 votes with absentee ballots outstanding. Can you say “recount”?
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-13 22:37:34 -0400 · Flag
I’m cautiously optimistic. However, no matter what the Republicans have to be wetting their pants right now. Pragmatically this district is about to get de-gerrymandered in 8th months so whoever wins won’t sit in the seat very long. So it’s importance isn’t the balance of power in D.C. but the larger message it sends as to the temperament of the electorate.

Laughing at a Trump sycophant on CNN spin this as a win for Trump. His logic is Trump showed up and a 5% point poll lead for Lamb has narrowed to this nail biter. Any argument Trump got them into this mess in the 1st place he ignores. Not to mention right-wingers throw poo at polls until it makes their case. 🤣
truman commented 2018-03-13 22:35:10 -0400 · Flag
Have the Kremlin votes been counted yet?
Eyes On Fox commented 2018-03-13 22:30:51 -0400 · Flag
Well, compared to the last minute polls it’s a lot closer than expected. However, Lamb is still outperforming by huge margins for such a red district. It won’t be over until the absentee ballots are counted.
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 22:16:42 -0400 · Flag
doesn’t look good :(
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 22:12:45 -0400 · Flag
918 vote lead yikes.
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 22:11:43 -0400 · Flag
St Bonaventure by 5 with 20 minutes in.
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 22:08:22 -0400 · Flag
1238 LEAD NOW
Jan Hall commented 2018-03-13 22:06:56 -0400 · Flag
Kornacki going crazy on MSNBC.
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