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Neo-Nazis A “Civil Rights Group” To Fox Affiliate

Posted by Ellen -7842.60pc on April 08, 2012 · Flag

The Nationalist Socialist Movement – also known as Neo-Nazis – has arrived in Sanford, Florida to make armed patrols in an effort to protect the rights of white people. But, as Think Progress noted, Fox's Orlando affiliate aired a “shockingly uncritical report” that included an introduction saying, “There’s another civil rights group in town.” 

Think Progress also noted:

The Fox reporter, Jennifer Bisram, includes none of the groups Nazi ties or incindiary history in her report. She concludes: “They say they are just a civil rights group tyring to protect people in case things get out of hand. They say they intend to follow all the Florida laws while patrolling.”

In Bisram's interview, the group’s leader, Jeff Schoep, tells her (without challenge) “White Americans don't seem to have very many spokespeople.”

That is definitely not a problem on Fox.

UPDATE: Fox Orlando now says they meant to call the group a "self-proclaimed civil rights group."

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Aria Prescott commented 2012-04-10 03:53:18 -0400 · Flag
And Adam… I gotta bug ya one last time. Can you show me where MSNBC definitively said there were NSM marches? Because I’m going through them, and I haven’t found it yet.
Aria Prescott commented 2012-04-10 03:05:06 -0400 · Flag
Ellen, before I got hijacked, I was interested in Bisram’s inflections, including her looks at the two-minute mark. I’ve seen that a lot, that’s how someone reacts when they don’t want to use those terms, but they were given the right pressure…

If you get my drift.

It always looks just like that.
Ellen commented 2012-04-10 01:01:27 -0400 · Flag
I don’t know why this became about home schooling but I know many home schooled kids who are great and smart. And liberal.

But to get back to the point of my post, whether there are really Neo-Nazis are not, this is what Fox Orlando reported and the point is that the reporter called them a “civil rights group.” In fact, the reporter said it twice, once in the introduction and again at the end, when she says, "They say they are just a civil rights group trying to protect people in case things get out of hand. They say they intend to follow all the Florida laws while patrolling.”

That after failing to note any of the group’s incendiary history. Given all that, it’s hard to believe this was just a typo on a teleprompter. Even if it were a typo, any reporter worth her salt should have caught it.

If the report is completely false, too, well that’s icing on the cake of media malpractice but doesn’t change the point or meaning of my post.
Aria Prescott commented 2012-04-09 21:15:41 -0400 · Flag
Yep, Adam- because everything the police tell civilians is true, and they have to tell everyone everything. That’s why they tell the people about every serial killer, gang war, mob feud, and threat to blow up a landmark.

Oh, wait- if it will cause a public panic or an escelation, they tell the people the rumours aren’t true to the best of their knowledge and try to resolve it before it gets out of hand enough to say “We got a problem”?

How dare that makes sense, Adam! You go and fight that system- you fight it now! In the meantime, I’ll be biding my time for whether or not the story’s genuinely false, or if the police are breaking up attempts to gather and telling us half-truths.

Once again- police denials don’t mean shit. Or maybe you’d like to explain how something doesn’t exist because the police say so to the victims of Bobby Joe Leonard.

Oh, and your wall on FB is lovely. Though your posts about how Muslim countries should blow up their Mosques and become Christians is kinda out of place for someone clearly obsessed with Victoria Justice.
Aria Prescott commented 2012-04-09 15:08:44 -0400 · Flag
Adam sez: *The media doesn’t check their sources, they just bounce around whatever inflammatory rhetoric comes to mind, then try to pass it off as a mistake when they get caught.

Except for Fox News- it actually was an error with their teleprompter.*

First off, people on location don’t use teleprompters.

Second off, actually watch the video, and note the inflections she put on “civil rights group,” like she was against using those words, but someone made her. Also note her anger after the interview.

Third- once again, police denials don’t mean anything, except that, if the situation does exist, they’re keeping the public in the dark because telling them will assure an escelation. Gang wars, serial killers, threats from dangerous organizations? You really think they’re going to say “Yep, it’s true!” to the public?

Especially when the community’s one step from the edge in the first place…

But thanks for proving that, yes- concepts like this are over your head. At least when people like Breitbart reporting a denial as proof nothing is wrong fits your point.
mj - the same one commented 2012-04-09 11:57:14 -0400 · Flag
Hey, neo-nazis ARE a “civil rights” group.

They’re dedicated to maintaining the “right” to terrorize, discriminate, spread hatred and violence . . .

/sarc/

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truman commented 2012-04-09 09:45:33 -0400 · Flag
The emblem of this neo-Nazi hate group is the swastika. Their website proudly proclaims that “Party Membership is open to non-Semitic heterosexuals of European Descent.”

Characterizing the NSM as a civil rights group is like characterizing Fux Noise as a news network.
Aria Prescott commented 2012-04-09 05:44:29 -0400 · Flag
Adam, first off, I’m just going to ask outright:

Did you read this article? Did you watch the video attached to it? Or did you just decide to lecture us about people who do poor fact checking without reading what was posted yourself?

The point of this article is that the Fox News affiliate referred to Neo Nazis as a civil rights group, while talking about the story. They also gave Sheop a platform to spew his hateful rhetoric.

Second off (and this is related), have you read Newshounds article about how Hannity presented selective evidence to slant people’s view of the case? You want to use NBC as an example, they investigated and fired the producer who did that:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nbc-news-producer-fired-editing-george-zimmerman-911-call-article-1.1057674

Yet, Hannity is still allowed on the air ater hosting an entire segment of claims that are altered to flat falsified:

http://www.newshounds.us/sean_hannity_joins_the_george_zimmerman_defense_team_and_ditches_the_trayvon_martin_case_facts_04052012

I smell double standard on you.

Third, and finally- the police denying something doesn’t always mean that it’s not out there. Ever hear of a serial killer named Bobby Joe Leonard? Probably not- but guess what? Before he was captured, neither had the state of Virginia because the police denied the presence of a serial killer who may have migrated to the area from Washington DC, where his count was up to four. The media were the ones talking about him, the police denied it until after they caught him closing in on his third Virginia victim.

The reason the police denied it was because saying “oh, yeah- there’s a serial killer, if he IS tied to the DC murders, this new one’s his sixth” would have caused a panic. The same in this situation- if the police said “Yep, there’s skinheads patroling us!” it would have escelated the situation. Not saying so, people will be on edge seeing someone dressed the way Scheop described either way… but it’s contained. Especially if the media that blabbed can be talked into showing enough conscience to help.

I know this concept may be too difficult for you- you do believe everything Breitbart posts, after all… but the fact remains that the police saying it’s not true could just be to quiet tensions while they deal with it quietly. assuming Scheop will allow that, he kinda has a history of bringing in numbers when the law contains his efforts.

IN any case, your argument certainly has no bearing over how this outlet covered the story. Comprende?
Aria Prescott commented 2012-04-08 23:20:08 -0400 · Flag
Look at Bisram’s face around the two minute mark. She looks like she’s about to throw up, then she shoots the camera a look that screams she’ll quit if they ever make her do something like that again.

How this affiliate handled the story is really out of line- and “disgusting” doesn’t even scratch the surface of how beyond the pale it is that they made someone the NSM would target run most of the dialogue.

Though just how thoroughly Adam missed the point here is cute. Especially the part where he expected us to believe Brietbart is credible.








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