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To Attack Warren Wealth Tax Plan, Fox Guest Calls $50 Million ‘Not As Big As You Think’

Posted by Ellen -7841.60pc on October 21, 2019 · Flag

Underneath Fox guest Peter Morici’s complaint that Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s tax plan unfairly taxes those with “only” $50 million was the suggestion that rich people deserve more.

Fox & Friends hosted economist Peter Morici this morning to provide what host Steve Doocy called “a reality check” on Warren’s plan for a wealth tax of two percent annually on assets worth above $50 million and a 3% tax on every dollar of net worth over $1 billion.

“Think about it this way,” Morici said. “Suppose you have assets of $50 million, so you meet her threshold. And then you earn this year another $50 million and you invest 25 [million] of it. On that 25, you’re gonna pay another 1% a year for the rest of your life.”

“So you if you’re a 30 year-old woman, you’re facing an 85% marginal tax rate on that wealth,” Morici continued. “And, by the way, she wants to couple this with a 70% income tax on these people. So in the end, they basically, if they make a buck, they’re gonna have to pay $1.20.”

Doocy worked to amp up the outrage: “Let me see if I get this straight. If you make a buck, you’re going to have to pay $1.20. So you just stop making money, you start paying the government, just hand over fist,” he said. But, apparently, this 30 year-old woman would be just fine with her $75 million.

I’m not an economist and my math skills are not good enough to check these calculations. But I am capable of seeing that along with the scare tactics was the message that the very wealthy are more deserving of their money.

“You see if anybody invests in America that way,” Morici warned, as if smaller investors don’t count.

“No, what you do is you get yourself on a Delta Airlines to London, you get yourself an apartment in Mayfair, and you basically move your money to Britain and you pay your taxes over there,” Morici said.

“I mean, why were American companies leaving for Ireland before Donald Trump became president? One of the things she doesn’t get is, people can get up and leave,” Morici continued. Again, as if the rest of us will far apart without the ultra rich.

Doocy briefly played devil’s advocate: “We’re not talking about just wealthy people,” he pointed out. “We’re talking about super-duper wealthy people who have assets of more than $50 million, right?”

Or maybe Doocy was just handing Morici an opening to argue that $50 million is just a smidge over upper middle class.

“Well, 50 million is big but it’s not as big as you think,” Morici declared. “You work for Fox News long enough and you’re 60 years old, you’ll be surprised how much money you have.”

Then Morici made his rich-people-deserve-ro-have-more pitch explicit:

MORICI: You have to remember, these are the people who finance our startups. These are the people that give us companies like Amazon and Apple, ‘cause they’re the ones with the seed capital. See, they behave like these people sort of clip coupons, they have bonds, and they hang out at the Doral with the president and, you know, that sort of thing. That’s just simply not true. They’re very active people that are investing their money.

Rather than point out that we had a great economy under President Dwight Eisenhower, when the income tax rate was 90% (on roughly $1.7 million for an individual and $3.4 million for a couple, in 2015 dollars), Doocy said “Sure.”

Doocy just happened to have a graphic ready showing the findings of two French economists who claim the 15 richest Americans would have seen their net wealth decline by “more than half, to $433.9 billion, had Warren’s plan been in place since 1982,” Doocy intoned ominiously.

Doocy forgot to mention they’d still have many billions.

Watch what was essentially a pitch for income inequality below, from the October 21, 2019 Fox & Friends, via Media Matters.

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Kevin Koster commented 2019-10-23 05:43:23 -0400 · Flag
The super-wealthy have done EXTREMELY well for themselves while the Pence White House has been in business. The Tax Transfer alone from the end of 2017, but massive numbers in their pockets, while simultaneously skyrocketing federal taxes on Middle Class employees in Blue States.

(The first thing one would hope that an actual majority Dem Congress of both houses and a Dem White House will do is correct that Tax Transfer and take the boot off the neck of the Middle Class taxpayers who got vindictively targeted by the Right.)

We must also note that the wealthy DID NOT return their money from abroad like the Right Wingers said they would. Instead, they took their windfall and kept it offshore. The big companies just did stock buybacks, while a few of them did small bonuses for their employees so it wouldn’t look completely craven. Most companies didn’t do anything different for their employees.

And the employees mostly saw only a negligible effect, in that they may have found an extra 10 to 20 bucks in their paycheck each week, which was then offset by much higher healthcare costs. Employees who made enough to see tax refunds every April got a big surprise with the whacked withholding – where they suddenly discovered that they not only didn’t get a refund in April but now OWED THOUSANDS.

I fervently hope that Middle Class people remember the tax burn they felt this year (and will feel next year) when it comes time to vote next November.
Thx4 Fish commented 2019-10-22 13:54:47 -0400 · Flag
Since Trump’s election there have been no more cries from the right about how broke our country is and how our national debt (which is soaring) will cripple our children’s futures because**abracadabra** debt doesn’t matter when the money is going to the rich and people who have 50 million aren’t rich anyway!

Back when the government collected a lot of tax money from the rich, the country could afford things like NASA, and Infrastructure spending and generally taking care of citizens. Now we can put all that aside to make sure the next startup gets funded because, who wants to build a company the old-fashioned way?
John McKee commented 2019-10-22 13:41:59 -0400 · Flag
It never fails to amaze me how Republicans, especially those outside the filthy rich bracket, continue to believe that we all depend on wealthy investors as the ‘job creators’. NOBODY opens a business to get rid of excess money or to create employment – they do so because they see opportunities to become better off or to rake in more wealth. Jobs are merely a necessary (often begrudged) expense in their plans to create a supply to meet perceived or potential demand, no more noble or selfless than purchasing the plant and equipment needed for their operations.

The puppeteers behind Reagan turned the whole reason for America’s economic success upside down and inside out with their idiotic ‘trickle-down’ argument. A prosperous middle class and an adequately compensated working class had created non-stop demand for consumer products and services over many decades. America roared ahead based on businesses rushing to supply what consumers craved.

Communism and fascism have shown that commanding the economy could not compete long term with a healthy, relatively free exchange of production for keen consumer buy-in. The truth is that horse of supply can ONLY be motivated by the carrot of demand. When the carrot withers, the horse will slow down or stop.
Richard Santalone commented 2019-10-22 07:19:51 -0400 · Flag
Once again, I will repeat Universal Tax Rule #1 from the PULITZER PRIZE WINNING independent journalists David Cay Johnston, Donald Barlett and James Steele: no matter how you slice it, when rich individuals and big multinational corporations don’t pay taxes or pay less than their fair share, SOMEONE ELSE MUST MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THE END! Us working class Americans not fortunate enough to hit the birth lottery like Der Gropenfuehrer Adolf Twitler, Steve “Dracula” Mnuchin and Betsy “Batty” DeVos know all too well who that someone else always is.








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