While two polls and most Democrats seem to agree that President handily won the debate tonight, Sean Hannity thought otherwise. And, surprise, surprise! He dissembled in making his point.
Hannity seemed genuinely upbeat which leads me to think he genuinely thought Romney did well (although I guess he might have just dug up some “new” old race video to hit Obama with tomorrow). But then Hannity said, “A CBS Insta Poll came out on the economy that shows that shows Romney won tonight, 65/35.”
In fact, the poll (of uncommitted voters) found that President Obama won the debate, 37/30 with 33% undecided. Obama won 55/49 on “gave direct answers to questions.” It’s true Romney won on the economy, though by 65/34. But Romney lost 6 points on that score from the last debate and Obama gained 7. But when the voters were asked who would do a better job for the middle class, Obama won 56/43.
Hannity also didn’t mention the CNN poll of registered voters which found that Obama won the debate 46/39%, though the results fell within the margin of error. Many Democrats also agree that Obama won.
However, I'm sure that Fox will set upon attacking debate moderator Candy Crowley and rehashing the Libya questions ad nauseum thus doing their best to ensure that the public comes to agree with Hannity, assuming that's possible.
Several terrorist sects (not just Al-Queda) used the protests over the video turning violent as cover to take out targets they would have otherwise never gotten to, with little or no planning. Obama said it was a terrorist act the first day, but was wise enough to not name names- unlike Bush, who was planning a counter-attack against Iraq before he had even addressed the people.
Fox News wants this to be some kind of conspiracy, and they’re not even smart about it. Everyone cleared to speak about the matter said that the attack was so spontaneous they weren’t gonna name names until they could confirm protestor or terrorist, that apparently equates to a cover up in Fox world.
1. The winner of the debate, without any doubt, was Mitt Romney….by a mile.
2. Michelle Obama violated the Rules Of The Debate by physically clapping when Crowley fact-checked Mitt. (The FN ‘story’ differentiates between physical & auditory clapping, which I found hard to understand!)
3. The racial anger is at a fever pitch….quite possibly the highest level I’ve ever seen there.
Now, I need a bath to rid myself of their scum.
a) rMoney flat out lies much of the time
b) rMoney won’t fact-check
c) rMoney’s advisors won’t fact-check
d) b) & c) are wrong of course, rMoney & his advisors knew the facts, they just flat out lied.
As I stated before, lying is a non-issue for rMoney, he has left a documented trail of lies that span decades. Pathological liars need not apply for the position rMoney seeks.
CROWLEY: Well, you know, again, I heard the president’s speech at the time. I sort of re-read a lot of stuff about Libya because I knew we’d probably get a Libya question, so I kind of wanted to be up on it. So we knew that the president had said, you know, these acts of terror won’t stand or whatever the whole quote was.
And I think, actually, you know, because right after that, I did turn around and say, but you are totally correct that they spent two weeks telling us this was about a tape and that there was a — you know, this riot outside the Benghazi consulate, which there wasn’t.
So he was right in the main, I just think he picked the wrong word. And I — you know, they’re going to parse and we all know about what the definition of is is, but, you know, in the end, I think John’s probably right. I think there’s a lot more to do with jobs and the debt crisis, and all of that kind of stuff. I just think probably it was one of those moments, and I could even feel that here.
You’ve learned how to cherry pick very well, Lori. Chalk one up for your FoxGOPTV masters.
Saying that intelligent Americans feel this way only comes across as arrogant and snobbish, that only those who agree with your opinion or come close to you deserve the honor of being labeled as intelligent.
From the President’s actual Rose Garden Remarks Transcript from 9/12/12.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
Now this may be difficult for you to understand, but when President Obama said “No acts of terror” he was in fact talking about the terrorist attack in Libya and was in fact acknowledging that it was a terrorist attack. The evidence is right there, Lori. Believe your own eyes, or believe Etch-a-Sketch Rmoney’s lie. The choice is yours. I choose not to believe Etch-a-Sketch Rmoney’s lie.
@al in la. Thanks for the input. hon and cupcake wasn’t meant as sexist. honey, hon, cupcake, etc…is what I call children when I’m trying to explain things to them that’s beyond their normal level of comprehension.
I have voted in 12 presidential elections, and I have never seen a more critical election than this one. One thing for Hannity to chew on: Last night that “bastion of Liberal thinking”, George Will stated without hesitation that President Obama won the debate.
CNN transcript of Crowley’s statement on September 28th:
“The question I think too is what you asked and Peter King wouldnât play, but the idea is why would you be so adamant? When most people look and said, well of course itâs a terrorist attack. I mean, they had you know large weaponry. Itâs not something you bring to a protest. And now weâre finding out there might not even have been a protest at the time this attack took place. So I think there are lots of questions to be answered here that the administration is going to have to talk about.
And then her statement last night after the debate when she tried to ressurect herself:
“And I think actually, you know because, right after that I did turn around and say, but youâre totally correct that they spent two weeks telling us this was about a tape and that that there was a, you know, this riot outside the Benghazi consulate which there wasnât.
So he was right in the main, I just think he picked the wrong word. And I, you know, theyâre going to parse and we all know about what the definition of is is, but, I, uh, you know, in the end, I think John [King]âs probably right. I think this has a lot more to with jobs and the debt crisis and all of that kind of stuff."
Am I the only one to notice that she makes a distinction between herself and “Intelligent Americans”?
Bet she now wishes she said “What I and OTHER intelligent Americans…” But she wasn’t clever enough to do that—thus proving my point.
AND note to Visitor 55: calling her "hon’ and “cupcake” only makes you sound like a sexist jerk.
Candy is far from being a liberal and I suspect would be offended at being called a liberal. However, last night she was a little liberal when she corrected Rmoney’s lie. President Obama did in fact call the attack in Benghazi an “act of terror” in the Rose Garden on 9/12. Good for Candy to set the record straight. Good smackdown that Rmoney deserved.
America is not a corporation that can be downsized (unless you ‘fire’ 47% ?), run on lowered wages and finally “Harvested” after 5 to 8 years for the benefit of the CEO and his pals. You clearly have No Idea what has been going on in the world for the last 67 years.
“Presidential Debates: Mitt Romney 2 – Barack Obama 0
In tonight’s performance by both candidates Barack Obama did his best to dance and weave with his lies and false attacks but Mitt Romney had the truth and his points hit squarely for another win tonight despite another poor liberal moderator who did her best to help the failing contender including backing him up in a …lie about Benghazi and the Rose Garden. And the last and final debate will be about…you guessed it, foreign policy so get ready for a KO next week! American needs Mitt please keep him and his family in your prayer and God bless America!"
In other words, Romney declared himself the winner, then turned around and admitted he lost to blamed Crowley for his defeat. Let me repeat that:
Mitt Romney flip-flopped on whether or not he believes he won the debate.
Let that sink in. And you know which side of that Fox News is on- without the facts.