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Fox’s The Five Sneer At Ventura’s Denial Of Navy SEAL Punch Story

Posted by Ellen -461.20pc on January 10, 2012 · Flag

As I previously posted, Jesse Ventura has demanded a retraction from Fox News of its reports cheerleading a Navy SEAL claiming to have punched Ventura for supposedly dissing the military. So how is Fox News handling the matter? If The Five yesterday (1/9/12) was any indication, by doubling down on their smears and depicting Ventura as wrong, crazy, unpatriotic and brain damaged – and not showing a shred of interest in any actual investigation or corroboration. So much for “we report, you decide.” 

Not one of The Five’s co-hosts seemed the slightest bit concerned that they may have promoted misinformation that smeared Ventura. Co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle opened the discussion by reading a Facebook post by him denying the account and made it clear she didn’t need any more information.

Co-host Dana Perino sneered, “Did he write that, post that from his newly adopted country, Mexico because isn’t that where Jesse Ventura moved to?” Then, as if living in Mexico were all the proof she needed that Ventura was some kind of un-American liar, she announced, “I believe the Navy SEAL.”

Co-host Eric Bollng said he had previously interviewed Ventura and posted a photo of him looking unhinged with fury. Bolling said, “I brought up, you know, his 9/11 conspiracy theory which, by the way, he was peddling on some reality TV show… Just take a look at that picture.” According to Bolling, all he did to engender Ventura's fury was to say, “Look, I don’t think you’re being patriotic saying that President Bush or Dick Cheney had anything to do with 9/11.” Bolling continued, “So I agree I believe the Navy SEAL.”

I’m no 9/11 Truther but I couldn’t help but compare the dismissive attitude toward Ventura with the continued fawning over Donald Trump on Fox – including on The Five – despite the fact that Trump’s own birther conspiracy theory has been completely and utterly debunked. Also, Bolling's concern for patriotism is a bit selective since it's not exactly patriotic to accuse the president of lying about his birth certificate in order to cover up his ineligibility to take office.

Guilfoyle claimed Ventura is “in trouble” with the SEAL community because of his comments. She didn’t present any facts to back up her claim. Nor did anyone else ask for any.

Co-hest Greg Gutfeld said, “He’s a giant boob.”

“Don’t give boobs a bad name,” Guilfoyle said.

Liberal co-host Bob Beckel once again joined in the pile on. Rather than make a stand for truth and accuracy – not to mention fairness and balance – Beckel went along with the groupthink by saying that steroids “do some things to your brains” and “I don’t think that I would take Jesse’s word over this other guy’s word for a second. Not that Jesse’s necessarily lying. He just can’t remember.”

As I wrote in my last post on the subject, shame on every one of them.

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john truth commented 2012-01-31 13:22:19 -0500 · Flag
Sadly it is the truth.
Yakki PsD commented 2012-01-11 21:12:08 -0500 · Flag
Jon Humphrey:

I’m not comfortable with that honestly. He’ll get showed to be the ‘joe plumber’ he is.
d d commented 2012-01-11 09:29:18 -0500 · Flag
This punch to Ventura didn’t happen in an empty alley or a secluded broom closet, right? I keep reading that it happened in a bar? So where are the witnesses? I have a hard time believing that no one else is commenting on having seen Kyle punch Ventura.
Yakki PsD commented 2012-01-10 23:47:59 -0500 · Flag
It’s called proof. Do you,or Kyle,speak it?

The only shame will be when he gets outed as a lying shitbag,that all the little rw loons will conspiracy theory up and decide that aliens came down and erased the memories of all the witnesses because they want a lib’rul alien society.
Mike Stevens commented 2012-01-10 23:44:12 -0500 · Flag
Chris Kyle’s story of his response to Mr. Ventura’s erratic misbehavior is entirely credible. One need only compare his gracious demeanor and bearing to the Martian-Bizarroland mien of Mr. Ventura in his overinflated, paranoid response to know what’s what here. Shame on the Minnesota governor.
Yakki PsD commented 2012-01-10 20:55:18 -0500 · Flag
Roger Krakusin : Jesse Ventura is a Navy UDT vet. So yessir it is correct that he was.
Roger Krakusin commented 2012-01-10 11:14:39 -0500 · Flag
Am I hallucinating? I was absolutely convinced that Ventura had himself been a SEAL. Is that incorrect?
doors17 commented 2012-01-10 11:00:35 -0500 · Flag
If Fox ever gives Governor Ventura the opportunity to defend himself and actually talk to his accuser face to face it’ll most likely happen next month since February is a ratings sweep month. I hope they’re not playing games to help build this up for that reason.

While I don’t always agree with Jesse I do find him to be a fascinating interview where you know at the beginning he’s not going to play patty cake and give us the same old predictable standard of dull and stale talking point answers that we’re all familiar with.

I remember about three years ago when he was a guest on Hannity & Colmes and Governor Ventura was making his point to Sean that his bosses controlled what stories and how they would be reported to their audience. Of course Sean reacted negatively to this saying that wasn’t true. Jesse replied back to Sean, oh so you made the decision and wanted to cover the death of Anna Nicole Smith everyday for a month? Sean didn’t say anything but just gave his usual smirk that you could easily read his facial expression was saying, okay, you got me.
ez commented 2012-01-10 08:29:17 -0500 · Flag
and over on Fox Nation, the comments section is “now closed” on it’s original posting.
Richard Santalone commented 2012-01-10 07:33:31 -0500 · Flag
From Paul Sullivan’s comment:

“…i’d love to be in a bar watching hannity and o’reilly’s reaction as big jesse walks up to them :).”

So would I. Remember when that PFC (Privileged Fascist Chickenhawk) KKKlannity walked away from all those jeering Ron Paul supporters? Mark my words: if Jesse Ventura DOES confront either O’Lielly or KKKlannity in a bar, both of these cowardly chickenhawks will RUN LIKE LIGHTNING!
aussie onlooker commented 2012-01-10 05:24:06 -0500 · Flag
in australia, you have to pay to watch fox news which means i rely on newshounds to keep me up todate on fox’s latest masterpeices of journalism.
i just finished watching fox clip of “the 5” swiftboating jesse.
he was referred to as “in mocking tones” guvnor while the patsy was referred to as hero. then living in mexico thrown into mix by foxette as if some major point of significace, accusations of drug damage by an admitted recovering alcholic etc etc.
like john kerry, jesse ventura served his country and both being framed as cowards by this lousy right wing, draft dodging outfit called fox.
jesse is an actual war hero, and i think they might have picked the wrong guy to swiftboat this time.to fox it’s payback for jesse calling them out over waterboarding.
cheers all
aussie onlooker commented 2012-01-10 04:17:02 -0500 · Flag
the fox cowards are trying another swift boat exercise. i think they may have picked the wrong target this time.
i’d love to be in a bar watching hannity and o’reilly’s reaction as big jesse walks up to them :).
Aria Prescott commented 2012-01-10 04:08:54 -0500 · Flag
Again with the keywords… SEAL, Navy SEAL, Hero SEAL, Deadliest Sniper. Over and over on an even timer. When Ventura was brought up, they used 9/11 and “Truther” as buzzwords following a pattern.

I donno if I’m reading too much into this or not, but seriously, Ellen- next few clips you watch where you notice recurring words, count out how evenly they’re spaced apart. On this particular clip, it’s a little weirder because I would see a Chyron pop up and just pull off.

I feel like I this is something I should look into, but at this point, I’m not sure if it’s completely deliberate. Gotta admit it’s strange, though…
Ellen commented 2012-01-10 03:46:17 -0500 · Flag
I am certain that Fox will wind up retracting this story and maybe even bringing on Ventura to rebut it. I would love to see every one of these Five co-hosts eat the crow they deserve, including Kimberly Guilfoyle even though it will mean tearing herself away from the camera for a bit.
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