Donald Trump has “no idea” if his birtherism has hurt him with “the blacks” because he never talks about it. But he thinks he’s doing just swell with “the African Americans.”

In a conversation that was reminiscent of Bill O’Reilly’s now-infamous dinner at Sylvia’s restaurant in Harlem, Trump told O’Reilly that he was “very, very impressed” with the people he visited with at an African American church in Detroit recently.

TRUMP: I thought the reaction was amazing and the church was amazing, the bishop was amazing. I thought the whole thing was really an incredible experience for me. And I think it was a tremendous success. 

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These are people of faith. These are people that are strong believers in God. They were absolutely so warm and so genuine and I was very, very impressed.

At least he didn’t say, “Nobody was screaming, ‘M-Fer, I want more iced tea.’”

Later, O’Reilly asked Trump if he thinks his “birther position” has hurt him with African Americans.

TRUMP: I don’t know. I have no idea. I don’t even talk about it anymore, Bill, because I just don’t bother talking about it.

O’REILLY: Yeah, I know, but it’s there, it’s on the record.

TRUMP: I guess with, maybe, some, I don’t know why. I really don’t know why. You’re the first one who brought that up in a while. I don’t think so. Look, I went to Detroit, we had - it was like a love-fest. We had just a great, great time. 

But as New York Magazine pointed out, Trump was lying when he said nobody but O’Reilly had brought up the subject recently. Just one day earlier, Trump was asked about his birtherism and refused to talk about it then, too.

In fact, as The Washington Post pointed out (but O’Reilly did not), Trump is every bit the birther he ever was, he just doesn’t have the stones to come right out and say so:

And in fact, if you look at his comments, Trump is basically as much of a birther as he was before, with the exact same point of view framed in more or less the exact same way: He’s just a guy who asks questions. When he led the effort a few years ago to question whether President Obama was actually born in the United States and was eligible to be president, Trump never technically said, “Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States.” He never had to.

He never aid otherwise either—and still hasn’t. To this day, he has never said that those questions have been laid to rest. Now, he just tries to change the subject instead.

Meanwhile, Trump surrogate Dr. Ben Carson was also asked about it earlier that same day by CNN's Jake Tapper. Carson said that it would be “a good idea, absolutely” for Trump to acknowledge his mistake and apologize.

O’Reilly didn’t mention that either.

Watch Bill O'Reilly look out for you look out for his friend, below, from the September 6 The O’Reilly Factor.