You can chalk up Megyn Kelly as the latest Fox News talking head to suggest President Obama should be impeached over his “If you like your health insurance, you can keep it” remarks. That’s bad enough. But during the same show, she dismissed as “old news” the fact that millions more people are now eligible for affordable health insurance under ObamaCare in order to continue her impeachment talk.
In a discussion with Stuart Varney last night, Kelly said about the Obama administration,
All they want to do is point to the people who are being insured, thanks to Obamacare and, to be sure, Stuart, there are millions of Americans who are gaining coverage when they did not have it before this law. (Varney acknowledged that is true).
What I said to the last guest was, that is old news. We knew that was going to happen four years ago. But what we’re seeing today is that there wasn’t a candid discussion and disclosure of the risks for those who did have insurance.
That’s a nice way of suggesting that Obama is taking from the haves to give to the have-nots – and then lying about it. But the truth is that most people’s insurance is not at risk. It’s a point that the supposedly candor-loving Kelly didn’t dwell on, if she mentioned it at all. In fact, speaking of candor and disclosure, where’s the same from Fox News about all those phony Obamacare victims they’ve trotted out?
And also speaking of candor and disclosure, why isn’t Kelly also reporting on how those canceled plans she’s so upset about often result in better coverage for less? Or the benefits of health insurance to the economy as a whole? Or how medical bills are the biggest cause of bankruptcy in the U.S.? Or how an estimated nearly 10 million people with health insurance will have trouble paying their medical bills this year?
The fact is that there’s a huge price to society to not having people covered for health care. And while yes, President Obama’s comments – rated “half true” by PolitiFact – are worth discussing. Kelly’s fixation on them to the exclusion of the many more substantive aspects of the Affordable Care Act does more than point to a partisan agenda that detracts from her credibility. It does a serious disservice to her viewers.
But Kelly took it a step further than obsessing about President Obama's words over Obamacare and ignoring most of the substance of the Affordable Care Act. At the end of the discussion with Varney, she teased her next segment by showing a photograph of President Obama along with photos of Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. She said, sputtering with hammy outrage:
Well, the health care credibility crisis is growing now for the White House. I mean, you know, it's, it is objectifiable fact that what the president told us for months is not true! Up next, Joe Trippi on the two new reports that have critics now comparing this miststatement, this untruth, this lie - whatever you want to call it - to the Watergate and Lewinski scandals.
Kelly made the comparison more explicit in her next segment where she played clips of the three and "asked" if it was fair to compare Nixon saying nobody in the White House knew about Watergate, Clinton saying he did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky and Obama. "I'm not taking a position, I'll play the devil's advocate on this," Kelly laughably said. "Nixon lied about the abuse, clear abuse of the presidential process. Clinton lied about sexual relationship outside of his marriage and inside the White House that he had been dishonest about while president. President Obama's critics will say that he lied about something that goes right to the heart of people's lives. Their health care! Their relationship with their doctor! Their children's relationships with their doctor!"
Nah, she didn't take a position. She just did her best to argue the anti-Obama position.
She never played "devil's advocate" for the other side.
I read about this couple who supported obama…they make over 4 times the poverty level so no subsidies…their plan which was a GOOD plan and one they were happy with cost them 5,600 a year…they got a cancellation letter and informed them it did not meet ACA requirements…
From the article…
“I asked Hammack to send me details of his current plan. It carried a $4,000 deductible per person, a $40 copay for doctor visits, a $150 emergency room visit fee and 30 percent coinsurance for hospital stays after the deductible. The out-of-pocket maximum was $5,600.
This plan was ending, Kaiser’s letters told them, because it did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. “Everything is taken care of,” the letters said. “There’s nothing you need to do.”
The letters said the couple would be enrolled in new Kaiser plans that would cost nearly $1,300 a month for the two of them (more than $15,000 a year).
And for that higher amount, what would they get? A higher deductible ($4,500), a higher out-of-pocket maximum ($6,350), higher hospital costs (40 percent of the cost) and possibly higher costs for doctor visits and drugs."
15,000 for a plan that is not equivalent to the one they paid 5,600 a year….
Tell me what’s phony about that ELLEN….oh here is the link.
ACA is designed to fail…copy and paste link below
From the link above,
“After a century of struggle, the ACA commits the United States to providing universal access to health care. This is a great achievement, one to be treasured and nurtured. Now the real fight begins, to turn this commitment into a reality that the ACA itself cannot produce. Barack Obama was right the first time: only a single-payer program can provide universal coverage, and only a single-payer program can control costs. The ACA may be the last bad idea that Americans try; after it fails, we will finally do the right thing: single-payer health insurance. "
A great argument on why this ACA aka Obamacare is designed to fail
“We’ve said that 100% of current health insurance plans are gonna have to be canceled because no insurance company can offer insurance at the same price with all the Obamacare mandates piled on. It’s just not possible. With every Obamacare mandate, there’s no way that you were gonna be able to keep your insurance, yet it is in the law. I read to you from the actual law, Obamacare, where it says you get to keep your insurance, but you don’t. Valerie Jarrett has tweeted today (paraphrased), “Well, that’s not our fault. The insurance companies did it!”
Well, it’s just a lie. The insurance companies are having to change everything in order to be compliance with all of the mandates that are in Obamacare. "President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after [Obamacare] became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama [regime] has known that for at least three years.
“Four sources deeply involved in [Obamacare] tell NBC News that 50 to 75% of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a ‘cancellation’ letter,” and they have begun in droves. We’re now into the hundreds of thousands of people who have gotten cancellation letters, and these are people who fully expected to be able to keep their plan, because the president of the United States assured them they could!
Yet here comes NBC News saying the regime knew all along that wasn’t gonna happen, which means the regime was lying from the get-go, all along. They knew that what they were saying wasn’t true. They knew that premiums weren’t gonna come down $2,500 and they knew that people weren’t gonna be able to keep their plans — and can I give you the main reason why? Because the long-term objective of Obamacare is to get rid of insurance companies, long-term.
I’m fully convinced that the chaos that’s happening now could well be intentional to speed it up. Folks, if you go listen (I’ve got the sound bites here, and I’m gonna get to ‘em in the next hour) to Obama telling union people what the plan is for how to get single payer, that’s what this all about. It’s how to get to one provider for health care and insurance, and that’s the federal government. That’s the objective. It’s been the objective for 50 years! Obama told the SEIU in 2007 that he knows people wouldn’t accept it overnight.
He said that it’s gonna take five, 10, maybe 15 years to get there — and the way we’re gonna get there is to have people demand it, and how do you do that? You so screw up the existing system that people say, “Could you just strip all this away? You guys do it,” and eventually get to single payer with the public frustrated and demanding that. That’s been the plan all along. The plan all along is to eliminate private sector insurance, and I’m just gonna tell you again: I have known this since before Obama was inaugurated.
I have known this since before I heard of Obama. This is what the Clintons intended Hillarycare to be. This is not a mystery. It’s not up for debate. This is not something that I might be wrong about. This is who they are, and it is what their plan for health care is. It’s right out there. All you have to do is to accept it, and apparently that’s what’s so difficult for people to do. Grab sound bite number four. Get number four first. NBC Nightly News, Peter Alexander was reporting on Obamacare and how many people are losing their coverage."
Above is from Rush Limbaugh and nails it home how all this is going to go down at some point…it will not be quick
On top of that Obama said in 2007 he wanted to eliminate private health insurance
Wake up…this is not about better healthcare, it is about control. It is not about lowering cost, it is about driving private insurance companies out of business…
Megyn Kelly is considered the future of Fox News. She’s their big prime time star. She pretends that she’s more moderate and is not an opinion host. I think it’s very important to point out that while she may not literally voice an opinion, she’s a Republican propaganda wolf in hot blonde clothing.
Futures would still just happen to miss it. But they’ll keep asking for where it was said, in their exact specified wording, until we all give up trying to explain that it was said, just not in the terms they want quoted. Then they’ll sit back and call us every name in the book until they get banned.
Fox plants are funny that way.
In fact, as I recall, when a certain gentleman came out publicly pointing out the LIES about Iraq and “yellow-cake uranium,” his wife who was a real-life undercover CIA operative was turned into a public figure. And FoxNoise spent its time blasting the whistle-blower (and truth-teller) and helping that President’s administration cover up its LIES.
As the old saying goes, “Bush lied; thousands died.” But FoxNoise and impeachment? Not even on the table. Not even up for discussion—except to blast the calls as “radical partisanship” and “revenge for Clinton.”
I hope Dems are paying attention. The next time they’re in the majority in Congress with a GOPer in the White House, start calling for impeachment at the drop of a hat. Every little misstep, every little incorrectly uttered phrase, every little terrorist incident—call for impeachment. The last GOP president we had was beyond incompetent but FoxNoise made sure to cover HIS bungling.
“Each time that KKKelly can work impeachment into any story line, she gets a bonus check from Jabba the Ailes.”
ONLY if Jabba doesn’t EAT IT first!
The real problem they’re facing looks like it’s the war between the “business of America is business” Republicans and the more radical right wingers who just want to say no to anything that Democrats and Obama present. Fox News has alternately embraced each of these positions, sometimes within the same hour of programming. At one minute, they’re extolling the virtues of Chris Christie. The next, they’re condemning him for not keeping President Obama out of New Jersey last year after Sandy. One minute they’re openly embracing the radical right and passively endorsing their wildest charges. The next minute, someone like Karl Rove or Mike Huckabee is up there castigating the radicals for making it impossible to govern the country. This is a serious, serious problem for both the GOP and for Fox News, and it bodes ill for them in the long term.
In the short term, the only thing they all agree on is that they hate President Obama and they wish to obstruct him at every possible turn. The multiple attempts to find a “Watergate” in his Administration are just examples of Fox News trying to create a story out of thin air and get their base fired up about something that will never happen. We’ve already heard this song from them multiple times. Remember when Joe Sestak was going to be the downfall of President Obama? Hannity was convinced that impeachment was just around the corner then. How about when Benghazi was going to lead to impeachment? Or maybe the invented IRS “scandal”? None of these went anywhere because they were hot air.
The idea that the GOP wants to portray President Obama’s statements about the ACA as the biggest scandal to tarnish the presidency in 50 years is beyond ridiculous. President Obama made statements that were generally true regarding how the policy would work. He and his advisors chose not to get into minute detail because that would have simply confused everyone. What president would have made this statement: “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it – unless it’s one of those really cheap underfunded plans that don’t really cover anything in the first place”? And it’s not true that the Democrats passed the ACA in the dead of night at all. The Democrats and President Obama tried for a year to work with the GOP to find a compromise in the creation of the ACA. The Democrats caved on multiple issues – they based the plan on a GOP template, they folded multiple times on any number of levels, and they even gave up the public option, which was the only reason to come up with this plan in the first place. The GOP’s response was to continue to obstruct and delay, in the hopes they could repeat their success of blocking the Clinton-era attempt via intransigence. At that point, with the GOP clearly having no interest in participating, the Dems went ahead and passed the bill with the majority they had. The GOP then campaigned on having voted NO, just as they had pledged to do with all Obama policies before he was even inaugurated.
And now we have the spectacle of the right wing blaming the heavy demand on federal websites and access points on the Democrats, when it was GOP governors who pointedly refused to involve their states in the process, in the hopes of causing this result. In another caving move, the Dems conceded that the exchanges for the ACA could be operated and directed by the individual states, since the GOP was so adamant in that area. And what did GOP state governors and legislators do? Refuse to do anything, thus fobbing the whole thing back to the federal government – the very thing they said they weren’t going to allow. Which of course caused an overload of demand to the federal sites – the very same overload that the GOP is trying to cite as an example of the ACA’s “failure”.
If I were to guess, I’d think that inside the walls of Fox News, there is grave concern about how they’re going to mount successful congressional campaigns next year and how they’re going to unite their party again before the next Presidential election. All the rest is a pretty large smokescreen.
And the funniest part of the whole thing is the GOP spin that Ken Cucinelli’s embarrassing defeat in Virginia is somehow a “warning” to Dems in other states about the ACA. It isn’t. It just means that even in a low turnout election where the GOP hardliners would normally overwhelm the Dems, Cucinelli was unable to pull out what should have been an easy win. GOP pundits point to Macauliffe outspending Cucinelli, and that’s true – but they’re leaving out that the relative numbers are a heck of a lot smaller than you’ll see in 2014 or 2016. This was an off-year election with a low voter turnout, as expected. The fact that the GOP could not turn out any more of their rabid base (who all hate the Dems and the ACA already) under these circumstances is likely a far greater “warning” – and it isn’t one that any Democrat is concerned that much about.
I was going to say that I think we give her far too much attention.
She has no relevancy outside the Cult of Cretinous that she preaches to every day. (or night?….I really don’t know!)
During her coverage of the story, Kelly actually had the nerve to say “If she remembered her place, maybe she would have kept her mouth shut, and this never would have happened.”
At that point, I screamed- Literally SCREAMED at the TV that the same Megyn Kelly who will go on 10 minute tangents, and even go as far as to hold off commercial breaks until she’s done yelling at even the most menial sexism towards her would go on the air and say that a woman deserved to be put in the hospital for giving a man lip.
She tried to roll it back during her Kelly’s Court verdict, but she actually started laughing when she said a man should never hit a woman. Could you imagine if her husband, or a co-worker, or just some guy in a bad mood hit her?! Her show would have daily updates on the trial!
Look into the cancelled plans… Either the insurance companies scammed them up to make sure they wouldn’t meet code, or the plan was always a scam, and they outed themselves trying to create an impeachment case for Obama’s claim.
Oh, and something else Fox News doesn’t want to talk about, past a few byte clips for the site:
Recognize a few o’ those names? Yeah, BIG 2012 contributors to the right on anti-ACA platforms, weren’t they? Know what part they were the most interested in? The Cornhusker provision, which closed the loopholes they would have slid out of this through.
Hey, weren’t the commercial names on there big ad donors to Fox News when they were obsessed with destroying the provision? Yeah, I’ll be sure to bring that up… Gotta be thorough, after all.
NOTE TO KELLY
Speak for yourself, sister. We can easily replace those three images with Rebekah Brooks, Andy Coulson and James Murdoch, or Rupy. Where’s your outrage on that one? As a “mother”-and we use the term lightly- you should be outraged that your fellow former colleagues hacked into a murdered 13 year-old British girl’s phone. You should be disbarred.