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Even these Fox News Pundits Think Palin's Rant About Son Track's Arrest And PTSD Was Nuts

Posted by Ellen -7859.80pc on January 20, 2016 · Flag

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During a stump speech for Donald Trump today, Sarah Palin blamed son Track's arrest on domestic violence charges on President Obama and PTSD. Even Fox News host Gretchen Carlson seemed to think it was crazy.

On Monday, one day before Palin made her splashy endorsement of Trump, son Track was arrested after allegedly punching his girlfriend in the face and threatening to kill himself with an assault rifle. 

In a bizarre rant that was supposedly a campaign speech for Trump, Palin served the following word salad in which she suggested it's President Obama's fault her son has not been treated for PTSD:

Our wounded warriors who come home from the battlefield bringing new battles with them. Our wounded warriors, sometimes in body and in mind coming back different than when they left for the war zone. I can talk personally about this. I guess it’s kind of an elephant in the room because my own family going through what we’re going through today with my son, a combat vet having served in a Stryker brigade, fighting for you all, America, in the war zone.

But my son, like so many others, they come back a bit different. They come back hardened, they come back wondering if there is that respect for what it is that their fellow soldiers and airmen and every other member of the military so sacrificially have given to this country. And that starts from the top. It’s a shame that our military personnel even have to wonder if they have to question if they’re respected anymore. It starts from the top. The question, though, that comes from our own president, where they have to look at him and wonder, “Do you know what we go through? Do you know what we’re trying to do to secure America and to secure the freedoms that have been bequeathed us?” 

So when my own son is going through what he goes through coming back, I can certainly relate with other families who kinda feel these ramifications of some PTSD and some of the woundedness that our soldiers do return with. And it makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never. For the sake of America’s finest that we have that Commander-in-Chief who will respect them and honor them.

But chances are, Track Palin was in trouble before he ever went to Iraq. In 2008, the Enquirer reported about Track Palin, as Gawker put it, “A serious drug problem, vandalism, theft, and partying are his main pastimes, allegedly.” In 2014, Palin broke his ribs after taking part in a drunken brawl. I don’t recall Sarah Palin demanding better treatment for his PTSD then, do you?

What’s almost as odd as Palin’s ramble was Fox News’ reaction. I kept expecting to see Palin as a guest on Fox to extol Donald Trump’s presidential virtues last night and today. But, as far as I can tell, she has not been. Today, when The Real Story with Gretchen Carlson covered Palin’s speech, the “fair and balanced” network clearly set the stage for disapproval. In a brief discussion afterward, Carlson’s only question, which was also similar to the subtitle given to the segment by FoxNews.com, was about the appropriateness of Palin’s remarks. Carlson even questioned whether Track Palin suffers from PTSD at all. Carlson asked her guests, “Was this the right time for Sarah Palin to talk about (this when) we don’t know if he is suffering from any of the above?”

Conservative guest Chris Plante said, “It’s the Mama Grizzly thing… building a legal defense right here on television… She’s a mother.”

So Carlson pressed even more pointedly, this time to liberal Leslie Marshall, a Fox News contributor. “From a PR point of view, Leslie, I mean is it smart for her to get out in front of it? I mean, here she is once again on the national stage and she’s having to face issues about her family, which she has done before?”

Plante said, “Yeah,” offscreen.

Marshall was critical, saying that Palin could have hurt her son’s defense by “saying too much.” Marshall added, “So I don’t think it was a smart thing to do and I don’t think it was the right venue.”

But nobody commented on Palin’s bizarre attempt to blame President Obama.

Watch Palin’s remarks below, via Crooks and Liars. Fox News’ criticisms are below that, starting at about 8:40, from today’s The Real Story with Gretchen Carlson.

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Dave NessReality411 commented 2016-01-24 16:46:50 -0500 · Flag
Combat was falling off in Iraq in 2008
Jane S commented 2016-01-24 10:31:39 -0500 · Flag
Ellen— As usual with Palin, it’s hard to make sense of what she says. On the cancer thing, reported widely as just a “scare,” she said she had a biopsy and the doctor said she had “something like melanoma” (there is no such thing as “something like melanoma,” either you have melanoma or you don’t) and then “they dug it out and it’s OK,” which also makes no sense for melanoma.

I take from that that she had either a squamous cell or basal cell skin cancer, it was removed, and that was the end of it because neither of those metastasize quickly. (Melanoma metastasizes usually before you even notice the skin lesion.) Neither of those very minor surgeries would require a painkiller for more than a day or two afterwards. She certainly wouldn’t be on them months later.

It’s barely possible she did have a melanoma, though I have a hard time believing she’d keep it secret if she had something so dramatic. If she did, removing that would mean a deeper surgery, but still not something you’d need painkillers for months. She’d then be on a newly developed chemotherapy, one that apparently has had great success but as I understand it, doesn’t have your hair fall out or make you sick as a dog.

So obviously, we don’t know what the real story is and how she was treated for whatever it was, but from what she did say, odds are extremely high she’s not on painkillers now for any skin cancer. (I’ve had friends who’ve been through all three, FYI.)

It’s not common to get one of the two minor sun-exposure skin cancers on the top of the head unless you’re a bald person who goes around outside without a hat a lot, but I suppose it’s possible. If she’d had a skin cancer removed from her head, she’d have had to have a lot of hair shaved off to do it, which might have had her take to wearing a wig for a while, depending on where it was.

But she has very thick and luxurious hair (I’d kill for hair like that) which she often takes to wearing piled up on her head in rather odd ways that look wiggish.

I’m not very familiar with the way people behave on opioid painkillers long-term, but my impression is that they’re more blissed out and giddy than overexcited and aggressive, but who knows. I tend to think she manufactures her own brain chemicals.
Ellen commented 2016-01-24 02:54:13 -0500 · Flag
I’m certainly no expert on drugged behavior but the reason I thought Palin is on painkillers is because she said something about having cancer and she has looked like she was wearing a wig during some of her Fox appearances.

But whatever is causing her bizarre behavior, Jane S, I agree that she has been on a long decline. She strikes me as someone who became a victim of her own celebrity. She got a lot of attention and money but she really doesn’t have the skills to handle it. She’s got nowhere to go now. Even if Donald Trump gets elected, I think we can count on the fact that she’ll never have a role in his administration. She’s burned a lot of bridges and is not equipped to do anything except hate monger.

I suspect she’s blown through much if not all of her money, too.
Jordan Maynard commented 2016-01-22 15:18:37 -0500 · Flag
I am willing to bet 100 bucks this is the first anyone has heard of Track having PTSD. Really poor form as Palin’s kids including Bristol, have a lengthy history of drinking and brawling. At least Sarah just gets drunk and does speeches. It does feel like a beating listening to her drunken rantings, but at least she is not waving an AR in our faces like her low life son.
gerald knight commented 2016-01-22 11:24:28 -0500 · Flag
Let’s examine the palin’s, shall we? became gov, QUIT!! mccain picked her as his VP, she immediately hijacked his campaign and went ROGUE!! LOL she proceeded to do her john birch stump speeches, calling Obama everything but a NIG#ER!! she put her then 17 yr old pregnant daughter on stage as a prop!! then proceeded to surprise america with her knowledge of civics and the role of a VP, then she bragged about her son joining the military but forgot to mention, it was join the military or go to jail!! Then she proceeded to market her daughter again, this time for hundreds of thousands dollars promoting abstinence, Later, got knocked up AGAIN!!! I could go on and on but why? isn’t that enough ???
gerald knight commented 2016-01-22 11:01:49 -0500 · Flag
Isn’t it funny, that the party of personal responsible, never takes responsible for their sorry asses?? if this was a democratic politicians son, it would be FUX NEWS no.1, 2, 3 story!! Holy crap and imagine if it was a black democratic politicians son!!!!!! I guess I’m going to catch some flack for saying this but the palin’s are white trash hillbillies!! but FUX NEWS loves white trash hillbillies! just ask cliven bundy or the duggars!
Jane S commented 2016-01-22 02:40:42 -0500 · Flag
Ellen— I’m reluctant to diagnose people as an amateur. But I have to say, having seen her so often on Fox over the years since 2008, she’s been gradually sliding into this mode a little bit more every year. I think she’s heading towards pretty serious psychological trouble, but drugs just strikes me as too easy an explanation for the change I’ve watched happening.

It’s sad, really, because she was something unusual and special (even if you hated a lot of her politics, as I always have), and that’s almost totally gone now. She’s just become shrewish with bitterness.
Nicholas Soter commented 2016-01-22 02:22:57 -0500 · Flag
More like methamphetamine. Oxycontin would be slowing her down, she’s totally amped.
Ellen commented 2016-01-22 01:41:41 -0500 · Flag
It’s true we don’t know what help Sarah Palin may be getting or trying to get for Track and I hope she is. But it’s bizarre that she brought him up in what was supposed to be a speech about Donald Trump. And I’d think that if she did it out of concern for her son and not, say, her public image, she would have talked more about her plans to actually get him help or at least her efforts more than President Obama.

Jane S, I agree Palin has become more shrewish. I actually think she’s stoned on oxycontin or something like that.
doors17 commented 2016-01-21 16:03:49 -0500 · Flag
Which political party has continuously failed to support our veterans again? http://www.businessinsider.com/veterans-groups-gop-2014-2
David Lindsay commented 2016-01-21 15:50:58 -0500 · Flag
President Obama should have done a better job of raising Sarah Palin’s kids.

tip of the hat to DU.
Lakeview Greg commented 2016-01-21 15:02:33 -0500 · Flag
Track Palin is 26 and no longer a child, well, at least not in age. As the son of a former governor and vice pres nominee he will always be under the lights to some degree. And beating up a woman is not a good way to keep that light dim. Add to it his mother using his trouble to make political hay says a lot more about Sarah than it does anything else.
Jane S commented 2016-01-21 14:39:12 -0500 · Flag
No, actually, it isn’t. Her son’s arrest hit the news before she said a word about it. Reporters have been asking her for comment, and she added a few lines to her speech with her comment. You don’t like her comment and neither do it, but it’s just false to say she publicized the incident.

And no, all bets are not off. There’s a certain level of decency at stake here, and making political hay over the troubled child (or children) of a public figure who isn’t even running for office is way over the line, even if that public figure did so first.

Bristol Palin has made herself a public figure since the campaign, and she’s fair game. Track has not, and he isn’t.
Dave Wright commented 2016-01-21 14:18:29 -0500 · Flag
I disagree, Jane S. It is Ms. Palin who has made all this public. She is the one throwing out accusations. If she is going to do that, all bets are off and everything becomes fair game. Unless her intention was simply to get her name out there, this was not a very good idea.
David Lindsay commented 2016-01-21 11:49:49 -0500 · Flag
If she wanted to distract from the nonsense she was spouting she should have worn an aircraft searchlight instead of a fancy jacket.
Eyes On Fox commented 2016-01-21 11:05:29 -0500 · Flag
Watched Fox News this morning boast how Sarah’s expensive jacket she wore during her word salad demagoguery set a fashion trend amongst the Tea Party and is now sold out. Odd multimillionaire, government handout hating Sarah can afford luxurious couture but can’t afford getting son treatment without being on Uncle Sam’s nickel.
Shannon Collier commented 2016-01-21 10:27:09 -0500 · Flag
What exactly did Track suffer through in one year of active duty as a reservist that lead to him having PTSD? And how does Sarah explain Track’s involvement at 16 in a drunken spree of vandalism where he was accused of cutting the brake line on a school bus? How, exactly, was that the democrats fault? And the whole family’s drunken rage at a birthday party last year when Track had a fight with his father, that ended up with Track getting beat up and Bristol beating up a gray haired older woman? Which democrat cased that to happen to the poor poor pitiful Palins?
Eyes On Fox commented 2016-01-21 09:51:40 -0500 · Flag
Living up to the constant right-wing meme of “personal responsibility” Sarah takes it on behalf of her hero son just like she does for her family values daughter. You betcha! Or maybe not so much. More proof there’s absolutely nothing Republicans can’t blame on Obama. 👍

It’s not surprising a chuckle-head like Sarah says stupid, ridiculous things. It’s her trademark. It’s that so many drooling Tea Party lemmings applaud her responsibility dodging vomit on cue.

No worries. When The Donald appoints Sarah Secretary of Defense she can really take care of our vets. You betcha! 😜
Jane S commented 2016-01-21 02:31:41 -0500 · Flag
Carol Gruber— just in the interests of fairness, you and I have no idea whatsoever whether his family is “getting him treatment.” And btw, you can’t force treatment on people who don’t want it, and I kind of suspect Track wouldn’t accept it at this point.

But either way, we don’t know that. The Palin family is under no obligation whatsoever to tell the public how they’re dealing with their troubled son.
Jane S commented 2016-01-21 02:28:40 -0500 · Flag
Marco— you’re absolutely right about Trump’s reaction, which I thought was fascinating. His face kept getting tighter and tighter and he started actually leaning away from her by the end. The audience reaction to her at that first event in Iowa was also notably unenthusiastic, something a number of reporters in the hall remarked on afterwards.

Palin is a very different creature than she was in ‘08, when there was a lot of good nature even in her jibes against Obama. She’s become much more bitter and angry in the years since. SHe’s now become actually shrewish.

She’s actually the one in her family who needs psychiatric intervention, actually, IMO, and I say that with a bit of sympathy.
Nicholas Soter commented 2016-01-21 00:50:34 -0500 · Flag
The real canard is that she says he is a “combat vet.” Not so. He did not participate in any combat while in Iraq; he was a driver for officers. He did not receive a Combat Infantry Badge that is given to all who participate in actual live action, as shown in his discharge papers.

He was forced to join the army by his parents, in order to avoid jail, because he had been arrested, was drinking and using drugs, and was prone to violence. He had PTSD from being raised by his mother and father in that nuthouse in Wasilla.
marco commented 2016-01-21 00:12:22 -0500 · Flag
If Track Palin hasn’t gone anywhere to diagnose a military related issue and seek treatment, he should. I would say his mom hasn’t even offered that advice. Also, she can blame her house republicans for cutting VA funding by 1.4 billion dollars less than Obama wanted from this year’s budget. My God, Obama’s fault, too, that he didn’t take the AK15 away. How can today’s speech be about the casualties of war when last night she said our soldiers are gonna go kick some ISIS ass? There is one special quality about Sarah, she’s the only woman who can make Trump look awkward, uncomfortable and embarrassed. It was worth listening to that stuttering, muttering ramble just to see Trump looking befuddled.
Carol Gruber commented 2016-01-20 22:12:57 -0500 · Flag
I despise Sarah Palin’s politics. But, this kid needs help. He threatened suicide. Why is no one (his prents/ family) getting him help?
George Dimopoulos commented 2016-01-20 22:01:47 -0500 · Flag
Just try and wrap your head around the fact that this bimbo could have been one pulse away from being our President if the GOP won in 2008….im going to throw up!
Kyle Dorfdorfendorf commented 2016-01-20 20:34:46 -0500 · Flag
Her voice is like sandpaper for your soul.
truman commented 2016-01-20 19:46:35 -0500 · Flag
Any personal shortcomings of the Palin clan are always the fault of President Obama. Some say that he knocked up Bristol this time.
David Lindsay commented 2016-01-20 18:51:55 -0500 · Flag
Boy when Faux decides not to carry water for one of the crazies, they don’t fool around. They can muster up more enthusiasm for crazy than that.
mj - the same one commented 2016-01-20 18:00:18 -0500 · Flag
Even these Fox News Pundits Think Palin’s Rant About Son Track’s Arrest And PTSD Was Nuts

Well, of course. This is no surprise.

Caribou Barbie, you recall, was persona non grata after she called out Fox in general, and BillO in particular, as “quasi-conservatives” (“Quasi” likely being on her “word-of-the-day” calendar for that day) following the Duggar fiasco:

http://www.newshounds.us/was_sarah_palin_fired_from_fox_because_she_called_out_megyn_kelly_s_duggar_interviews_120415

Rupie and Ailes took that as Palin biting the hand that fed her; thus, Fox hosts are, since then, no longer under any obligation, contractually or otherwise, to treat her as a serious political figure or take seriously anything that emerges from her word salad-hole.

Just wait: if The Combover starts tanking in the polls, or even if he becomes the nominee and gets royally stomped by Hillary and/or Bernie in the general, watch the Fox hosts meme become, “Did Palin’s Endorsement Sink The Donald?”

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scooter commented 2016-01-20 17:57:15 -0500 · Flag
Grifter Palin is trying to get back in the spotlight. It won’t last long since she is already overshadowing Trump who won’t stand for such. He is the consummate narcissist, and she is the consummate liar.








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