We can add Mexico to the list of countries and entities that Bill O’Reilly thinks he has vanquished from his mighty microphone. You may recall how his boycott of France cost them “billions of dollars” (a claim Media Matters proved false) and how Pepsi canceled a Ludacris ad thanks to him. I’m not sure what the result of his threats to Canada and Aruba were. But now that a former Marine has been released from a Mexican jail after an extensive on-air campaign by O’Reilly and Fox News, O’Reilly announced last night, “The only reason the Mexicans let him out in the first place is because I told them if they didn’t, there was going to be real trouble economically down there for them.”
The case involves ex Marine Jon Hammar who made the foolish decision to bring a shotgun into Mexico which is a serious crime.
The Daily News explains:
Hammar and a friend were en route to Costa Rica for a surfing trip when they passed through the border checkpoint in Brownsville, Texas, allegedly declaring the old shotgun to U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents.
The agents allowed the pair to continue, allegedly telling them the gun wouldn’t be a problem at the Matamoros, Mexico checkpoint. There, Hammar tried to declare the gun and both he and his friend, a former Marine, were immediately arrested. His friend was released days later.
Despite all the Fox News coverage, I never once saw an attempt to verify whether Hammar’s account about being told the gun would not be a problem was true. Instead, O’Reilly called the charges “bogus.” The charges may have been inappropriate but they were not bogus. As The Daily News article later notes, it’s a federal crime to carry a shotgun in Mexico.
Last night, O’Reilly interviewed Hammar’s father. Once again, the interview was used as an excuse to attack the Obama administration and the State Department - whose head, Hillary Clinton, just happens to be seen as a likely 2016 Democratic presidential candidate.
At about nine minutes into the interview, O’Reilly asked Hammar’s father, “Has the State Department contacted you? Anybody from the U.S. Government contacted you?”
Hammar said he had only heard from his congressional reps. News flash to O'Reilly, this case of a foolish American (supposedly) inadvertently breaking the law in Mexico and going to jail may not be a top priority for our State Department. Or maybe they're just not as interested in grandstanding as you are.
O’Reilly: You know, it’s kind of shocking to me that the State Department, number one, couldn’t get him out. And number two, hasn’t even called you and said, “How’s he doing? Can we do anything for you?” We just don’t want to throw Americans away. You know what I’m talking about here?
Yes, I believe we do, Bill. We don’t want to throw Americans away when you and your anti-Democratic network can make political hay out of it but we toss American lives right out the window when, say, a Republican administration invades a country over a false claim that they have weapons of mass destruction. Or if you’re an abortion provider named Dr. George Tiller and get murdered after years of being demonized on your show as a “baby killer.” Has anyone on Fox ever expressed remorse over THOSE lost lives?
O’Reilly continued:
And the only reason the Mexicans let him out in the first place is because I told them if they didn’t, there was going to be real trouble economically down there for them. And then finally, Nieto, the new president, got the message and told these guys to let him out. And bang, he’s out.
…As soon as the big shots in Mexico City realized they were gonna be punished by the American people – and that’s what would have happened, alright? I mean, there were already cancellations for people traveling down there.
As it turns out, the State Department did help, at least to some degree. The Daily News reports, "For his own protection, prison officials, with the help of U.S. consular officials, moved Hammar out of the prison’s general population."
If O'Reilly or anyone else at Fox really cared about what the State Department did and did not do, you'd think they'd have actually reported some facts, rather than shoot off inflammatory soundbites. But I don't expect that information coming any time soon. Not unless they unearth something that tarnishes Clinton and/or the Obama administration.
Yes.
I wanted to illustrate that “Nieto” is NOT the equivalent to what it is called a “last name” in the USA, and Billdo doesn’t know it but throws it out there with familiarity.
Let me offer another example, using the former Mexican President.
Felipe de Jesús Calderón Hinojosa (full name)
Felipe de Jesús (given name)
Calderón (paternal surname)
Hinojosa (maternal surname)
Usually referred as “Calderón”
NOT Hinojosa
But to Billdo, Master of the Loofahs, this is not important.
What’s important is HOW HE brought another country down by shaking his toy.
Vile Bile seems to be getting worse day after day.
Enrique (given name)
Peña (paternal surname)
Nieto (maternal surname)
President Enrique Peña Nieto
NOBODY refers to him as just “Nieto”
You’d be talking about another person.
Heck, Billdo is too busy playing with the tides so
why should he bother to learn the name of the guy
he just threatened.
You didn’t mention the drug cartels.
I did. I made it clear.
Because Billdo and Fox have made it one of their braying points when they bring up Fast and Furious, or decapitated heads in the Arizona desert, or the discussion regarding gun control, or immigration.
Fox and the wingnuts love to depict Mexico as a failed state where the drug lords rule.
Not true.
What is true, and I believe it is what happened in this case, is that most Mexican police are MORONS with a badge. And guns. This is an ongoing joke running for decades. But I digress.
Nobody bowed down to Billdo.
Not the Mexican government. Not the drug cartels.
Whoever had authority over the case finally realized it was much ado about nothing.
Aria, there is no such a thing as a criminal organization NOT dealing drugs. Ask Olly North. The Taliban did it. The ’murkan gubbimint did it in Nam and Central America.
Note aside. I am not making apologies for Mexico or their “justice system”
I offer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNXrMZHM4J8
and if that link doesn’t work, giggle
presunto culpable
or
Presumed Guilty
THAT is the kind of crap Jon Hammar was facing.
And they don’t have a sense of humour about pissing contests like this, either. They think it belittles or mocks them. I’ve read horror stories about what they do to people who made comments like Bill’s making, and high-profile does not always equate to safe.
Just the opposite, if the leader who takes offense is heartless/crazy enough.
In earlier threads I mentioned how it was McClatchy Newspapers first to break the story. NOT FOX or Billdo.
After that, Mexican media also picked up the story.
After that, the Tamaulipas chamber of commerce got involved and pleaded to the local, state, and federal government for the release of Jon Hammar because the whole imbroglio was indeed an embarrassment.
The chamber pleaded for the release of Jon Hammar before xtmas, BEFORE Billdo shook his mighty toy.
Aria,
No.
In Mexico nobody gives a sht about Fox News.
Fox Sports is available, mainly for the international soccer coverage, but that is it.
Most of the talking heads watch and listen to CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC.
Regarding the drug cartels, NO, they don’t control the country so Billdo can sleep safely.
Returning to Billdo’s inflated toys. He himself has said NOT TO TRAVEL BY ROAD in Mexico. Billdo may recall himself saying FLY, go to your HOTEL and stay there.
Let me do a quick recap.
Two idiots wander off the asylum, one gets arrested because he is carrying a gun.
When the locals, and the parents, explain that the individual has mental issues,
BILLDO TAKES THE CREDIT FOR HIS RELEASE!
For the record, my best wishes to Mr. Jon Hammar and his family. Hopefully BILLDO will pay for his care.
I’m only asking because bill basically started a pissing contest with a few really dangerous groups that think they own the Mexican government when he claimed “who bows to whom?”. The people I’m thinking of kinda don’t have a sense of humour about that, so it stands to reason that the only reason Bill’s not double checking all his locks is that they haven’t heard.
Bloviating @sssshole.
Billy made sure Hannocchio didn’t get credit for this huge story, and pulled a few strings.
It’s no secret that there is a huge rivalry between these two ego-maniacs. Billy will not allow Hannocchio to dominate in his time slot. Hannocchio is doing everything he can to get all the exclusive stories away from Billy.
There’s jealousy and bickering behind the scenes of Fox “News” between hosts, producers, and other staffers. What goes on inside that toxic skyscraper in mid-Manhattan is more entertaining that the Fox “News” shows.
NOTE TO BILLY
Your colleague’s bio on the Fox News website suggested you are not as influential as he is-and you know who we are talking about.
As Don King always said: “Only in America”
Caveat : it would also be more painful for the American People.
Well, we knew this was coming — I have the same reaction to this as I did the news that Tom DeLay was finally sentenced to three years in the federal pen yesterday: what took so long?
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Down There? – What now? Killer was going to stick his dick out? The thought of that would make anyone run for cover, or sue him for $2 million.
