Joseph West commented on Fox Brings Back Dick Morris To Predict Doom For Hillary Clinton And Democrats
2015-04-06 13:12:45 -0400
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It’s a bit surprising, given FoxNoise’s seeming animosity to LGBT rights, that they do go overboard with their love of Dicks. If it were just the female hosts, little would be made, but the male hosts seem to be just as fond of their guest Dicks as much as the ladies.
(Sorry. I couldn’t resist the wordplay. The last bit didn’t work quite as well as I’d have liked but to make it really work would’ve probably gone way past mere playful wordplay and innuendo and into something a bit more explicit.)
(Sorry. I couldn’t resist the wordplay. The last bit didn’t work quite as well as I’d have liked but to make it really work would’ve probably gone way past mere playful wordplay and innuendo and into something a bit more explicit.)
Joseph West commented on Russell Brand Calls Out O'Reilly's Christian Hypocrisy
2015-04-06 02:41:46 -0400
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I thought it was funny how O’Reilly said “if you understand Judeo-Christian tradtion, you know Jesus preached forgiveness.”
Please, Bill. Spare us the “Judeo” part of the tripe. “Judeo” means JEWISH. The Jews do NOT believe Jesus preached anything of value to anyone. Jews do NOT acknowledge Jesus as being anything special (no more so than they do Muhammad or Voltaire or Erasmus or Gandhi).
Just admit that you and your fellow right-wingers only (and grudgingly) acknowledged Jesus’s Jewish origins/heritage to explain why you had to support Israel. It was only around 1970 or so, that right-wing Christians suddenly started abandoning their centuries old anti-Semitism (you know the stuff—“the Jews killed our Lord” crap) when they realized that the “old” prophecies required an Israel before the Rapture could finally come about. And, quite interestingly, it was about that same time that America’s “religious” heritage was suddenly that of “Judeo-Christian” heritage. After more than 300 years of “Christian America” seeking “God’s Providence,” suddenly it was a “shared Judeo-Christian heritage.”
Bill can take that Bible of his and shove it up his bunghole.
Repeatedly.
Please, Bill. Spare us the “Judeo” part of the tripe. “Judeo” means JEWISH. The Jews do NOT believe Jesus preached anything of value to anyone. Jews do NOT acknowledge Jesus as being anything special (no more so than they do Muhammad or Voltaire or Erasmus or Gandhi).
Just admit that you and your fellow right-wingers only (and grudgingly) acknowledged Jesus’s Jewish origins/heritage to explain why you had to support Israel. It was only around 1970 or so, that right-wing Christians suddenly started abandoning their centuries old anti-Semitism (you know the stuff—“the Jews killed our Lord” crap) when they realized that the “old” prophecies required an Israel before the Rapture could finally come about. And, quite interestingly, it was about that same time that America’s “religious” heritage was suddenly that of “Judeo-Christian” heritage. After more than 300 years of “Christian America” seeking “God’s Providence,” suddenly it was a “shared Judeo-Christian heritage.”
Bill can take that Bible of his and shove it up his bunghole.
Repeatedly.
Joseph West commented on It Just Wouldn’t Be Easter Without Fox News’ ‘War On Easter!’
2015-04-06 02:23:25 -0400
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Actually, I’d like to know what version of the Bible Starnes is using. Relying on the website unbound.biola.edu/ (aka “The Unbound Bible”), I did a search for the term “physician” in the New Testament in THREE versions (the default New American Standard along with the classic King James and the more recent New Revised Standard) and the only use of “physician” was NOT directed at Jesus. Only FIVE verses exist IN THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT with the word “physician” (and of those 5, the NRSV doesn’t use “physician” in one of the verses, being replaced by “doctor”; that version appears in the search results because the other two versions do use the word). The verses:
Matthew 9:12
Mark 2:17
Luke 4:23
Luke 5:31
Colossians 4:14 (this one, however, refers to Luke—not Jesus)
Apparently Todd is misunderstanding the verse that comes closest (Luke 4:23) wherein Jesus says “Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.” (KJV) But, if you notice the context, Jesus is specifically using a PROVERB—that people would use the term as a metaphor. (For crying out loud, the man was a carpenter by trade. Who in their right mind would address a carpenter as a physician?)
Matthew 9:12
Mark 2:17
Luke 4:23
Luke 5:31
Colossians 4:14 (this one, however, refers to Luke—not Jesus)
Apparently Todd is misunderstanding the verse that comes closest (Luke 4:23) wherein Jesus says “Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.” (KJV) But, if you notice the context, Jesus is specifically using a PROVERB—that people would use the term as a metaphor. (For crying out loud, the man was a carpenter by trade. Who in their right mind would address a carpenter as a physician?)
Joseph West commented on When Fox Likens Obama To Neville Chamberlain, They’re Really Calling For War With Iran
2015-04-03 12:40:25 -0400
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Perhaps Mr Hikind should be reminded that Chamberlain is also the one who caused the British to go to war against Germany in the first place.
What Mr Hikind probably doesn’t realize (or chooses to ignore) is that following Munich, Chamberlain is the one who set up the defense pact with Poland which ensured British retaliation against Germany if Hitler attacked Poland. Chamberlain also continued arming Britain very shortly after returning from Munich.
Oh. And Chamberlain was a Conservative—not a liberal (granted, British conservatism tends to be a bit to the left of US conservatism).
What Mr Hikind probably doesn’t realize (or chooses to ignore) is that following Munich, Chamberlain is the one who set up the defense pact with Poland which ensured British retaliation against Germany if Hitler attacked Poland. Chamberlain also continued arming Britain very shortly after returning from Munich.
Oh. And Chamberlain was a Conservative—not a liberal (granted, British conservatism tends to be a bit to the left of US conservatism).
Joseph West commented on Did Fox Turn A Blind Eye To Death Threats Against Targeted Arizona State U Professor?
2015-04-03 12:26:32 -0400
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@ Lawrence Geller: The simple fact is that FoxNoise has learned the lessons of some right-wing white supremacist "church.’ I don’t actually remember the name of the specific “church” and I suppose I’m glad of that. But I digress…..
I also don’t recall the specifics of the case (as in who the targets of the attacks—though I do believe at least one resulted in murder—were) but the bottom line is that the accused was just one of the bodies in the pews, a mere pawn if you will. His lawyer’s primary argument was that he was only doing what the “pastor” had been “preaching” and he shouldn’t be held accountable for “following” what was being taught in the sermons. Not surprisingly, the church leaders—to a man—denied any responsibility for the man’s actions, saying they never once told anyone to go out and put the words into action and, in essence, they threw their guy under the bus. During the trial, the “church’s” teachings were basically declared off-topic and the jury was instructed to ignore the beliefs, no matter how repugnant, because the defendant had no evidence that he was acting under direct orders from the “church” leaders.
Since then, the right-wing has pulled the same tactic. They talk and talk all sorts of hateful invective BUT as long as they don’t directly say the words, “Kill this person,” their words are protected. (It is, of course, very ironic that the same people who demand people take responsibility for their words and actions are the first to hide behind the old “it’s not my fault if someone misunderstood what I said” canard.)
I also don’t recall the specifics of the case (as in who the targets of the attacks—though I do believe at least one resulted in murder—were) but the bottom line is that the accused was just one of the bodies in the pews, a mere pawn if you will. His lawyer’s primary argument was that he was only doing what the “pastor” had been “preaching” and he shouldn’t be held accountable for “following” what was being taught in the sermons. Not surprisingly, the church leaders—to a man—denied any responsibility for the man’s actions, saying they never once told anyone to go out and put the words into action and, in essence, they threw their guy under the bus. During the trial, the “church’s” teachings were basically declared off-topic and the jury was instructed to ignore the beliefs, no matter how repugnant, because the defendant had no evidence that he was acting under direct orders from the “church” leaders.
Since then, the right-wing has pulled the same tactic. They talk and talk all sorts of hateful invective BUT as long as they don’t directly say the words, “Kill this person,” their words are protected. (It is, of course, very ironic that the same people who demand people take responsibility for their words and actions are the first to hide behind the old “it’s not my fault if someone misunderstood what I said” canard.)
Joseph West commented on Todd Starnes Laments Whipped Cream 'Debauchery' During Spring Break
2015-04-01 17:54:10 -0400
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Just a note about the last comment.
The photo was actually shot using shaving cream and chiffon to emulate whipped cream (which would’ve pretty much melted under studio lighting).
But photo trickery notwithstanding, it’s pretty obvious that people have been doing (or, at least thinking about doing) “inappropriate things” with whipped cream for a LOOOOOOOOONG time.
The photo was actually shot using shaving cream and chiffon to emulate whipped cream (which would’ve pretty much melted under studio lighting).
But photo trickery notwithstanding, it’s pretty obvious that people have been doing (or, at least thinking about doing) “inappropriate things” with whipped cream for a LOOOOOOOOONG time.
Joseph West commented on Megyn Kelly Throws A Hypocritical Hissy Fit Over Harry Reid’s Comments About Romney’s Taxes
2015-04-01 17:41:37 -0400
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Well, there is a reason why Al Franken titled his most famous book, “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right.”
It’s too bad he’s in the Senate right now. He’d have been able to do a sequel a few years ago (or simply an “expanded, 10th anniversary” edition).
It’s too bad he’s in the Senate right now. He’d have been able to do a sequel a few years ago (or simply an “expanded, 10th anniversary” edition).
Joseph West commented on Megyn Kelly Really Goes To Bat For Indiana’s ‘Religious Freedom’ Law – But Not So Much For The Truth
2015-03-31 12:58:43 -0400
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@ Thx4 Fish: One of the current arguments going around is that the Indiana law can’t be used to discriminate against other religious practitioners—because, you know, Federal law banning discrimination based on religious grounds. (Or ethnicity or race or gender or even political affiliation—basically any of the “protected classes” under Federal law.)
As to the Jews not working on the Sabbath, that’s already protected under Federal employment guidelines and even US Supreme Court rulings. Employers MUST “accomodate” the religious practices of their employees to the best of their abilities. While it’s not allowed for an employee to simply refuse to work if scheduled for a religious day (whether the person’s Sabbath or a holiday), an employer cannot terminate an employee if he or she can get a co-worker to cover for that shift. An employer can fire a employee who routinely takes off their “religious day” (with or without having that shift covered) since the employee was hired fully understanding the employment schedule. Now, an observant Jew would not seek employment that would conflict with Shabbat (which is one reason you probably won’t find many Jews working for Chik-Fil-A; while Sunday’s a guaranteed off-day, they might be harder pressed to be off between sunset Friday and sunset Saturday—the official Shabbat) and many devout Christians are able to find jobs which will let them have off Sunday (or Saturday for the Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses I believe). I work for the Postal Service and many of my co-workers are very devout (though not many are scary-devout) Christians, there are a number of jobs (which must be bid on and awarded by seniority) where you can be off your Sabbath; for those who can’t get that day off, most take jobs which will allow them to attend services before or after work.
Other cases have involved work attire especially with Christian women who won’t wear slacks because they consider slacks to be “men’s attire”—a truly odd proscription for the Bible since both men and women wore robes and clothing didn’t really take on specific male/female functions until centuries after the Bible’s current form was finalized (hell, it was only the late 19th/early 20th centuries when children’s clothes started becoming gender-specific; boys might still be wearing “dresses” up to about age 5 and no one thought anything about it). Even today, the visible garments you see traditional monks and nuns wearing LOOK pretty identical (a relic of the early Christian era in terms of clothing). When you see period clothing for ancient Rome or Greece, many men are wearing floor-length togas—just like the women. Employers aren’t allowed to force women to wear slacks or jeans if there aren’t job safety issues; a telephone or cable company can’t require female employees to wear slacks if they work in the office doing customer support or sales BUT a woman who wants to do repair work can be required to wear slacks/jeans since a skirt or dress can pose safety issues (e.g., a skirt could get caught up in power equipment) and safety trumps religious values.
As to the Jews not working on the Sabbath, that’s already protected under Federal employment guidelines and even US Supreme Court rulings. Employers MUST “accomodate” the religious practices of their employees to the best of their abilities. While it’s not allowed for an employee to simply refuse to work if scheduled for a religious day (whether the person’s Sabbath or a holiday), an employer cannot terminate an employee if he or she can get a co-worker to cover for that shift. An employer can fire a employee who routinely takes off their “religious day” (with or without having that shift covered) since the employee was hired fully understanding the employment schedule. Now, an observant Jew would not seek employment that would conflict with Shabbat (which is one reason you probably won’t find many Jews working for Chik-Fil-A; while Sunday’s a guaranteed off-day, they might be harder pressed to be off between sunset Friday and sunset Saturday—the official Shabbat) and many devout Christians are able to find jobs which will let them have off Sunday (or Saturday for the Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses I believe). I work for the Postal Service and many of my co-workers are very devout (though not many are scary-devout) Christians, there are a number of jobs (which must be bid on and awarded by seniority) where you can be off your Sabbath; for those who can’t get that day off, most take jobs which will allow them to attend services before or after work.
Other cases have involved work attire especially with Christian women who won’t wear slacks because they consider slacks to be “men’s attire”—a truly odd proscription for the Bible since both men and women wore robes and clothing didn’t really take on specific male/female functions until centuries after the Bible’s current form was finalized (hell, it was only the late 19th/early 20th centuries when children’s clothes started becoming gender-specific; boys might still be wearing “dresses” up to about age 5 and no one thought anything about it). Even today, the visible garments you see traditional monks and nuns wearing LOOK pretty identical (a relic of the early Christian era in terms of clothing). When you see period clothing for ancient Rome or Greece, many men are wearing floor-length togas—just like the women. Employers aren’t allowed to force women to wear slacks or jeans if there aren’t job safety issues; a telephone or cable company can’t require female employees to wear slacks if they work in the office doing customer support or sales BUT a woman who wants to do repair work can be required to wear slacks/jeans since a skirt or dress can pose safety issues (e.g., a skirt could get caught up in power equipment) and safety trumps religious values.
Joseph West commented on Fox Guest: Obama’s ‘Just Inciting Some (Birther) Chatter’ By Visiting Kenya
2015-03-31 02:40:47 -0400
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I think someone needs to remind Sununu the kind of welfare queen he is. He kind of ripped off the people of the US by taking a LOT of personal trips on US military aircraft. After being ORDERED to repay, he coughed up less than $50,000 (some being paid for by the Republican Party) for what actually cost nearly $700,000 (little excursions—on the public dime—to golf resorts, GOP fundraisers, even a dentist visit).
And, let’s not forget, he basically pled that his family’s finances were in somewhat dire straits and then turned around and spent more than $5,000 on rare stamps. Oh. That little trip was pretty much a road trip, using a government limousine from DC to NYC (the stamps were part of an auction at Christie’s)—and then he sent the limo and driver back while he took a corporate jet home.
You know. This guy really has ZERO business attacking Obama on anything. Especially when he was born in Cuba; his dad was a US citizen, of Palestinian heritage but his mother was born and raised in El Salvador. AND because he was forced to resign as Chief of Staff, largely because of his shady doings on the taxpayer’s dime.
And, let’s not forget, he basically pled that his family’s finances were in somewhat dire straits and then turned around and spent more than $5,000 on rare stamps. Oh. That little trip was pretty much a road trip, using a government limousine from DC to NYC (the stamps were part of an auction at Christie’s)—and then he sent the limo and driver back while he took a corporate jet home.
You know. This guy really has ZERO business attacking Obama on anything. Especially when he was born in Cuba; his dad was a US citizen, of Palestinian heritage but his mother was born and raised in El Salvador. AND because he was forced to resign as Chief of Staff, largely because of his shady doings on the taxpayer’s dime.
Joseph West commented on Bill O’Reilly’s Cameraman Contradicts His Argentina Riot Claims
2015-03-31 02:19:38 -0400
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I wonder if someone’s going to be getting ambushed a “visit” from Bill’s favorite little buttboy suck-up, Jesse Watters for having the audacity of suggesting that Bill wasn’t being completely honest?
Joseph West commented on Todd Starnes Endorses Child Abuse?
2015-03-31 02:08:35 -0400
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@ scooter: Are you sure those people aren’t saying they want Toodles to be cast in an “Airplane” remake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc
Joseph West commented on Brian Kilmeade: School Mascots Offensive To Native Americans Are Just Fine
2015-03-28 03:21:31 -0400
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You know, if Ms Reynolds (maybe she’d rather be termed “Squaw Reynolds”—I understand a lot of Native Americans take offense at the use of “squaw”) is such a proud member of the Oglala Sioux tribe, why then does she hide behind such an incredibly “white” name?
Or is it a “stereotype” that Native Americans should not have last names like “Reynolds?”
Or is it a “stereotype” that Native Americans should not have last names like “Reynolds?”
Joseph West commented on Fox Guest Calls SAE Racist Song ‘A Relic Of The Past’
2015-03-26 19:52:27 -0400
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Just for Hannutty:
“Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swingin’ in the Southern breeze
Strange fruit hangin’ from the poplar trees
“Pastoral scene of the gallant South
The bulgin’ eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolias sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burnin’ flesh
“Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for the tree to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop.”
That’s Billie Holiday’s classic “Strange Fruit,” written by Abel Meeropol under the pseudonym, Lewis Allan. As powerful today as it was when Meeropol first wrote it and Holiday first recorded it. (And considering black men were still being lynched well into the 1960s—and black men are still being hanged, albeit in effigy, today. Or has Niger (I can just imagine how many of his “close white friends” mispronounce his name in private) forgotten the pictures from just a few years ago of images of BLACK men being hanged from trees for “Halloween decorations?”
“Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swingin’ in the Southern breeze
Strange fruit hangin’ from the poplar trees
“Pastoral scene of the gallant South
The bulgin’ eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolias sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burnin’ flesh
“Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for the tree to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop.”
That’s Billie Holiday’s classic “Strange Fruit,” written by Abel Meeropol under the pseudonym, Lewis Allan. As powerful today as it was when Meeropol first wrote it and Holiday first recorded it. (And considering black men were still being lynched well into the 1960s—and black men are still being hanged, albeit in effigy, today. Or has Niger (I can just imagine how many of his “close white friends” mispronounce his name in private) forgotten the pictures from just a few years ago of images of BLACK men being hanged from trees for “Halloween decorations?”
Joseph West commented on The Daily Caller’s Sexist Attack On “LabiaFace” De Blasio Spokeswoman
2015-03-26 19:38:57 -0400
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Well, I could suggest dedicating a certain Robbie Williams track (a two-syllable word, the first syllable being a slang term for a certain portion of the male anatomy and the second syllable being the word for the part of the body above the neck) but I’ll defer to “The Big Bang Theory”:
Howard: [Raj] compared Sheldon to a disposable feminine hygiene product that one might use on a summer’s eve.
Penny: And the bag it came in.
I think either term would fit the fratboys (members of the Kappa Omicron Kappa chapter of Kappa Kappa Kappa) of “The Daily Caller.”
(As if fratboys don’t already have enough problems to deal with—a bunch of middle-aged losers who refuse to grow up and behaving worse than any fratboys at Spring Break.)
Howard: [Raj] compared Sheldon to a disposable feminine hygiene product that one might use on a summer’s eve.
Penny: And the bag it came in.
I think either term would fit the fratboys (members of the Kappa Omicron Kappa chapter of Kappa Kappa Kappa) of “The Daily Caller.”
(As if fratboys don’t already have enough problems to deal with—a bunch of middle-aged losers who refuse to grow up and behaving worse than any fratboys at Spring Break.)
Joseph West commented on Gavin McInnes: It’s Worse For Women To Go To Spring Break Than Men
2015-03-25 02:34:58 -0400
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So, McInnes favors all those college boys on Spring Break use that time to “experiment” with their buddies and explore their gay sides?
I mean, if he’s arguing that women shouldn’t go to those Spring Break destinations, who are the men going to play with? You don’t seriously think that a bunch of drunk, horny college-age guys are going to go home without indulging in a little “body-fluid” exchange, do you?
I mean, if he’s arguing that women shouldn’t go to those Spring Break destinations, who are the men going to play with? You don’t seriously think that a bunch of drunk, horny college-age guys are going to go home without indulging in a little “body-fluid” exchange, do you?
Joseph West commented on Ted Cruz’ Foreign Birth Not A Problem For Fox News – The Way Obama’s American Birth Was
2015-03-24 14:39:26 -0400
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Scooter may have been being snarky, but therein lies a grain of truth. Something tells me if Ted’s daddy had been a Cuban of much darker hue (ie, Afro-Cuban) and Ted were a little less right-wing extremist and a bit more progessive-minded, FoxNoise would be calling for the long-form birth certificate. Not to mention, there’d be a little of "Now, THIS guy was actually born outside the US. Okay, we couldn’t find anything to show that Obama wasn’t born in the US but Ted Cruz—or should that be “Rafael” Cruz?—really was. AND his dad was a buddy of Fidel Castro!!!!"
Joseph West commented on Todd Starnes Throws Up In His Mouth Over Michelle Obama's Healthy Menu Suggestions
2015-03-22 14:06:07 -0400
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Actually, with my last comment I shouldn’t have singled out Hillary. FoxNoise will bash ANY Democratic President. They just won’t need to use any “code words” for their racist attacks. We just tend to forget how FoxNoise went after Bill Clinton during his Presidency because (1) the network was still in its growing phase and hadn’t become quite so blatantly hate-filled and (2) the internet wasn’t as pervasive and you didn’t have so many websites dedicated to politics (on any part of the political spectrum).
The right-wing noise machine still relied largely on printed newspapers and magazines for their bilious attacks. (The only regular television in the era that was willing to routinely bash Bill was the religious cable networks and series, like the 700 Club and CBN and EWTV but even their attacks tended towards Bill’s “moral” issues—like the alleged adultery matters rather than the political/economic matters like Whitewater.)
The right-wing noise machine still relied largely on printed newspapers and magazines for their bilious attacks. (The only regular television in the era that was willing to routinely bash Bill was the religious cable networks and series, like the 700 Club and CBN and EWTV but even their attacks tended towards Bill’s “moral” issues—like the alleged adultery matters rather than the political/economic matters like Whitewater.)
Joseph West commented on Fox Guest Claims Netanyahu Won Because ‘Israelis Did Not Want To Give Obama That Satisfaction’
2015-03-22 13:45:04 -0400
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Of course, you know if Obama had played his own little card and made a statement (carried on international news programs) that a Netanyahu victory could lead to deep cutbacks in US military and economic aid to Israel, then adding sotto voce “aid that Israel is so heavily dependent upon and wouldn’t be easy for the Netanyahu government to replace very quickly,” you just know that FoxNoise (which played cheerleader for Netanyahu’s political grandstanding a few weeks ago) and the GOP (which gave Netanyahu the invitation in the first place) would be screaming about “Obama’s blatant attempts at intimidating Israeli voters.”
FWIW, the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board is just another mouthpiece for Murdoch (despite what Murdoch and the editorial board said when he bought the paper).
FWIW, the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board is just another mouthpiece for Murdoch (despite what Murdoch and the editorial board said when he bought the paper).
Joseph West commented on Elisabeth Hasselbeck Advances Right Wing Freak-Out Over Arabic Pledge Of Allegiance
2015-03-21 03:02:44 -0400
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Hey, Lizardbreath (HT Lynn Johnston’s “For Better or For Worse” comic strip), how’s that “freedom of speech” thing working for you?
Or does that NOT include recitations of the Pledge in languages other than English?
You do realize the Bible (a far more sacred work one would think) appears in hundreds of languages? And that among Arab CHRISTIANS, “Allah” is the standard form to translate “God?”
My dad was in the Army and I attended a couple of schools for dependents on base (the main case being at Fort Bliss, Texas; some family friends lived in El Paso proper and the kids attended the El Paso city school system but we lived on base so I attended the base school—but I digress…….). Being where it is, my elementary school (on base at Fort Bliss) included MANDATORY Spanish classes (in all grades) and, again, being on base, the Pledge was pretty much mandatory recitation at the start of the day. But, one of my Spanish instructors decided that we had to recite the Pledge en español (I think it was in fifth grade—has been many and many years ago). I don’t recall anyone having any objections to it—ever.
Incidentally, doing a little Google search, I found that the office of the Secretary of State of Washington State has a page which features the Pledge—including translations in Spanish, German and French. (The end of the German might raise some hackles for Lizardbreath—the last two words in the German version are “für alle” (meaning “for all” but the word “alle” in German is pronounced very similarly to the word “Allah”; not exact, of course—the German puts stress on the first syllable while the Arabic tends to stress the second syllable).
Or does that NOT include recitations of the Pledge in languages other than English?
You do realize the Bible (a far more sacred work one would think) appears in hundreds of languages? And that among Arab CHRISTIANS, “Allah” is the standard form to translate “God?”
My dad was in the Army and I attended a couple of schools for dependents on base (the main case being at Fort Bliss, Texas; some family friends lived in El Paso proper and the kids attended the El Paso city school system but we lived on base so I attended the base school—but I digress…….). Being where it is, my elementary school (on base at Fort Bliss) included MANDATORY Spanish classes (in all grades) and, again, being on base, the Pledge was pretty much mandatory recitation at the start of the day. But, one of my Spanish instructors decided that we had to recite the Pledge en español (I think it was in fifth grade—has been many and many years ago). I don’t recall anyone having any objections to it—ever.
Incidentally, doing a little Google search, I found that the office of the Secretary of State of Washington State has a page which features the Pledge—including translations in Spanish, German and French. (The end of the German might raise some hackles for Lizardbreath—the last two words in the German version are “für alle” (meaning “for all” but the word “alle” in German is pronounced very similarly to the word “Allah”; not exact, of course—the German puts stress on the first syllable while the Arabic tends to stress the second syllable).
