Joseph West commented on Fox Nation Still OK With Its Readers Talking Murder, Now About Obama
2015-12-30 14:17:27 -0500
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Robert, let me start by stating that I wouldn’t normally respond to you since you chose to link to a site that’s even less reputable than FoxNoise. (It’s worth telling that, when I searched the key terms of your WND links, “narry mercury twitter trump,” pretty much the whole first page of links go to other right-wing conspiracy sites but the story doesn’t seem to have pervaded any LEGITIMATE sites.)
That written, allow me to remind you that the SCOTUS case involved an ordinary man’s use of violent lyrics in relation to his ex-wife (the Court noted that the man included “disclaimers”—not unlike certain crime dramas that pull the old “we took this story from the headlines but we’ve changed things to prevent our asses from being sued for defamation among other things” routine). Now, the man was fired from his job (as an amusement park security guard!) because his boss thought the posts were potentially threatening to his fellow employees and possibly customers (employers are actually exempt from many aspects of the First Amendment). (I’ll also throw in the fact that several years ago, an anti-abortion website posted the names and home addresses of abortion providers. A pro-choice group tried to get the site banned for promoting violence but the courts ruled for the website under First Amendment rules. The thing was, though, there was only one reason the site existed—to terrorize abortion providers. Now, compare that to the outrage from FoxNoise and other right-wing sites when that New York newspaper printed the names and addresses of people who owned lots of guns. Right-wingers claimed that was an invasion of privacy—but they’d stood squarely on the side of the anti-abortion group’s “right to inform the public.”)
BUT. Here’s the real difference: There ARE laws against making threats against the President of the United States. They applied under Reagan; they applied under GHW Bush; they applied under Clinton; they applied under W; they apply under Obama. The most telling difference is that the number of FoxNation comments making such threats has exploded since Obama took office with the FBI having to play a very cautious game because the right-wing nutjobs will scream that they’re being “persecuted” for their “political opinions” (even though, those same right-wing nutjobs wouldn’t hesitate to call for the arrest and full prosecution of any “left-wingers” who’d made such threats against W).
The other thing is that THIS site has responsible monitors who will pull a comment that they believe crosses the line of acceptable commenting (I’ve had a few of my own comments deleted—even though I’ve been clear in the very hypothetical nature of any actions discussed; but this isn’t my “home” so I don’t get to make the rules). FoxNation doesn’t monitor their commenters—or even warn them that certain language won’t be tolerated. FoxNation needs to post specific rules that ban users who routinely post violent comments against the President. And, as much as I can tell from the very brief bits I found on the above-mentioned web search, the “death threats” came from ONE man. Compare that to the screen shot of the FoxNation piece. That’s NOT one man—that’s a lot of people. (Okay—there’s a possibility that it is one person using multiple screen names but that’s actually MORE disturbing than the alternative that there are a lot of different people making these deplorable comments.)
And, one last thing: Congrats on trying the equivalency card. Too bad you failed, epically.
That written, allow me to remind you that the SCOTUS case involved an ordinary man’s use of violent lyrics in relation to his ex-wife (the Court noted that the man included “disclaimers”—not unlike certain crime dramas that pull the old “we took this story from the headlines but we’ve changed things to prevent our asses from being sued for defamation among other things” routine). Now, the man was fired from his job (as an amusement park security guard!) because his boss thought the posts were potentially threatening to his fellow employees and possibly customers (employers are actually exempt from many aspects of the First Amendment). (I’ll also throw in the fact that several years ago, an anti-abortion website posted the names and home addresses of abortion providers. A pro-choice group tried to get the site banned for promoting violence but the courts ruled for the website under First Amendment rules. The thing was, though, there was only one reason the site existed—to terrorize abortion providers. Now, compare that to the outrage from FoxNoise and other right-wing sites when that New York newspaper printed the names and addresses of people who owned lots of guns. Right-wingers claimed that was an invasion of privacy—but they’d stood squarely on the side of the anti-abortion group’s “right to inform the public.”)
BUT. Here’s the real difference: There ARE laws against making threats against the President of the United States. They applied under Reagan; they applied under GHW Bush; they applied under Clinton; they applied under W; they apply under Obama. The most telling difference is that the number of FoxNation comments making such threats has exploded since Obama took office with the FBI having to play a very cautious game because the right-wing nutjobs will scream that they’re being “persecuted” for their “political opinions” (even though, those same right-wing nutjobs wouldn’t hesitate to call for the arrest and full prosecution of any “left-wingers” who’d made such threats against W).
The other thing is that THIS site has responsible monitors who will pull a comment that they believe crosses the line of acceptable commenting (I’ve had a few of my own comments deleted—even though I’ve been clear in the very hypothetical nature of any actions discussed; but this isn’t my “home” so I don’t get to make the rules). FoxNation doesn’t monitor their commenters—or even warn them that certain language won’t be tolerated. FoxNation needs to post specific rules that ban users who routinely post violent comments against the President. And, as much as I can tell from the very brief bits I found on the above-mentioned web search, the “death threats” came from ONE man. Compare that to the screen shot of the FoxNation piece. That’s NOT one man—that’s a lot of people. (Okay—there’s a possibility that it is one person using multiple screen names but that’s actually MORE disturbing than the alternative that there are a lot of different people making these deplorable comments.)
And, one last thing: Congrats on trying the equivalency card. Too bad you failed, epically.
Joseph West commented on Fox Suggests Obama To Blame For Tamir Rice’s Death
2015-12-30 01:51:41 -0500
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Ellen opined “Actually, the so-called “Ferguson effect” makes cops supposedly reluctant to do their jobs, not to kill inappropriately.”
Ellen, are you sure about that? It seems that since Ferguson, certain police officers seem to believe their job IS “to kill inappropriately” (especially when the target is African-American).
And regarding Wheeler’s comment, "“Look at de Blasio. I mean, we have to get these politicians out of the way, Charles. Let cops do their jobs.”
What Wheeler fails to note is that the cops AREN’T doing their REAL jobs (and most politicians aren’t doing much to rein in the killer cops).
I’d really like to see how these two African-American males would fare when confronted by the (mostly white) cops who’ve been “behaving so badly” of late. Former cop or no, Wheeler would likely be putting his life at risk if he’d been in Tamir Rice’s position. Those cops weren’t willing to give the kid a chance to even respond to their orders before they shot him. I also kind of wonder how many cops Wheeler knew while on the force who “should not have been on the force” but he kept quiet?
Ellen, are you sure about that? It seems that since Ferguson, certain police officers seem to believe their job IS “to kill inappropriately” (especially when the target is African-American).
And regarding Wheeler’s comment, "“Look at de Blasio. I mean, we have to get these politicians out of the way, Charles. Let cops do their jobs.”
What Wheeler fails to note is that the cops AREN’T doing their REAL jobs (and most politicians aren’t doing much to rein in the killer cops).
I’d really like to see how these two African-American males would fare when confronted by the (mostly white) cops who’ve been “behaving so badly” of late. Former cop or no, Wheeler would likely be putting his life at risk if he’d been in Tamir Rice’s position. Those cops weren’t willing to give the kid a chance to even respond to their orders before they shot him. I also kind of wonder how many cops Wheeler knew while on the force who “should not have been on the force” but he kept quiet?
Joseph West commented on Fox Guest Blames ‘Liberal Bias’ By PolitiFact For So Many Donald Trump Lies
2015-12-29 01:18:20 -0500
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Oh, silly mj. Don’t you remember the rules? “Personal responsibility” is for OTHER people (especially non-white people) while “victimization” is for white CONservatives.
Joseph West commented on Fox’s Pastor Jeffress Says Refusing Syrian Refugees Is A “Christian Value” – Because Planned Parenthood
2015-12-27 11:23:16 -0500
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Perhaps MISTER Jeffress needs a little reminder of what JESUS said.
Particularly, the little tale presented in Matthew 25: 35-46. (in KJV)
35. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36. Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38. When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39. Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43. I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45. Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Methinks (keeping the KJV feel in mind) that MISTER Jeffress is going to be a mite disappointed (and hot) when it comes time for his afterlife.
Particularly, the little tale presented in Matthew 25: 35-46. (in KJV)
35. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36. Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38. When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39. Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43. I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45. Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Methinks (keeping the KJV feel in mind) that MISTER Jeffress is going to be a mite disappointed (and hot) when it comes time for his afterlife.
Joseph West commented on Fox Gets Into The Christmas Spirit With A Slew Of Vile Smears Of Obama
2015-12-27 11:09:38 -0500
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The usual Christian standard for the season is “Peace on Earth. Goodwill to all men.”
On FoxNoise—if you’re not part of their clique—the standard for the season is “Bah, humbug!”
On FoxNoise—if you’re not part of their clique—the standard for the season is “Bah, humbug!”
Joseph West commented on Fox Attacks The NBA's Gun Violence Ads
2015-12-25 23:30:13 -0500
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Gene, with just your second comment in six months, you prove yourself a complete and total idiot in your first sentence.
This is the NBA which deals with BASKETBALL, not football.
Now, go back to hiding under your bridge, you obnoxious little troll.
This is the NBA which deals with BASKETBALL, not football.
Now, go back to hiding under your bridge, you obnoxious little troll.
Joseph West commented on Dr. Ben Carson Has Officially Lost Fox News
2015-12-25 10:51:59 -0500
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Paul, your sense of outrage would be more believable if you had any history of being a real person reading articles on this site.
From a quick check of the link provided with your name, your comment was just your SECOND comment (in two months)—and, surprisingly, your only other comment was your coming to defend Ben Carson’s “good name and record.”
And, for what it’s worth, you did NOT “refute” (“easily” or not) the claims that Fox did once champion Carson’s candidacy (Fox has, if you paid attention to the real world—and had an attention span greater than that of a goldfish—championed MULTIPLE candidates, even at a single time) or that Carson was hired as a contributor.
From a quick check of the link provided with your name, your comment was just your SECOND comment (in two months)—and, surprisingly, your only other comment was your coming to defend Ben Carson’s “good name and record.”
And, for what it’s worth, you did NOT “refute” (“easily” or not) the claims that Fox did once champion Carson’s candidacy (Fox has, if you paid attention to the real world—and had an attention span greater than that of a goldfish—championed MULTIPLE candidates, even at a single time) or that Carson was hired as a contributor.
Joseph West commented on Van Susteren Lectures Trump: “I Sort Of Gasp” When I Hear You Make Bathroom Jokes
2015-12-24 12:59:15 -0500
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With regard to the cartoon, I’ve seen it. It does NOT depict the DAUGHTERS; it shows a couple of actual monkeys—the same kind you’d see with organ grinders. (The ONLY reason people see the monkeys as Cruz’s daughters is because of the editorial caption. But it’s not like the artist drew images of the two little girls in organ-grinder monkey outfits—she drew a pair of monkeys. Then again, if you’ve seen the Cruz campaign ad that the artist said were her inspiration, you’d see that Cruz used his own daughters as little more than trained monkeys. It’s a really pitiful ad with Cruz reading a “conservative Christmas” book and the girls behave like he’s reading them a legitimate Christmas book, or even fairy tale book.)
As for tRump’s “schlonged” comment, if he really doesn’t think it’s vulgar, I wonder if he’d mind the following scenario: He loses the GOP nomination to Cruz or Rubio and some “clever” reporter decides to title his story, “Trumps gets schlonged.” Personally, I think tRump would be calling for the reporter’s head to be served to him on a silver platter.
As for tRump’s “schlonged” comment, if he really doesn’t think it’s vulgar, I wonder if he’d mind the following scenario: He loses the GOP nomination to Cruz or Rubio and some “clever” reporter decides to title his story, “Trumps gets schlonged.” Personally, I think tRump would be calling for the reporter’s head to be served to him on a silver platter.
Joseph West commented on Greg Gutfeld Is ‘Sick And Tired’ Of Fox Defending Trump – Because Hillary Clinton
2015-12-24 12:43:58 -0500
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David, I’m pretty sure that the ghosts of both Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon are shaking their heads when they see what passes as “Republican presidential candidates.”
Hell, Nixon’s ghost is probably looking at them and going “Damn—even I couldn’t get away with that shit! Of course, I had to deal with a media that didn’t take shit from nobody and actually stood up to politicians.”
Hell, Nixon’s ghost is probably looking at them and going “Damn—even I couldn’t get away with that shit! Of course, I had to deal with a media that didn’t take shit from nobody and actually stood up to politicians.”
Joseph West commented on Fox’s Bolling Suggests Chelsea Clinton Timed Her Pregnancy To Help Her Mother
2015-12-22 01:22:55 -0500
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Does Bolling NOT know how pregnancy works?
I see, according to his Wiki entry, he is married and has one son (hmm, for a 50+ year-old Catholic, that sounds pretty damn suspicious to me; but I digress . . . ) so he should have some basic understanding of how pregnancy happens and how much luck is involved.
All the “timing” in the world can NOT lead to what I suppose he thinks is “pregnancy on demand.”
I see, according to his Wiki entry, he is married and has one son (hmm, for a 50+ year-old Catholic, that sounds pretty damn suspicious to me; but I digress . . . ) so he should have some basic understanding of how pregnancy happens and how much luck is involved.
All the “timing” in the world can NOT lead to what I suppose he thinks is “pregnancy on demand.”
Joseph West commented on Shock Jock Anthony Cumia Arrested For Strangling A Woman
2015-12-21 01:54:25 -0500
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Tyson, it’s not so funny to a person who’s actually got a job. You, on the other hand, probably find it literally laugh out loud funny because you DON’T have a job.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
Joseph West commented on Megyn Kelly Cheerleads For Coach Who Wants To Pray On Public School Field
2015-12-19 01:48:13 -0500
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Maybe the Coach needs a refresher course in the Ten Commandments, particularly the “Thou shalt not bear false witness” one.
I find it hard to believe that the coach went to school officials and “asked permission” to continue praying and was refused. EVERYONE has a right to pray on their own time. What school officials (teachers, coaches, etc) can not do, however, is “take the lead” in prayers nor participate with students.
His problem started when he crossed the legal line and allowed students to participate in prayer with him. And mlp ! is quite correct in the “spectacle” aspect. Prayer—according to the very words of Jesus—is supposed to be a private matter between the supplicant and God (church is a slightly different situation but people are largely there voluntarily).
I find it hard to believe that the coach went to school officials and “asked permission” to continue praying and was refused. EVERYONE has a right to pray on their own time. What school officials (teachers, coaches, etc) can not do, however, is “take the lead” in prayers nor participate with students.
His problem started when he crossed the legal line and allowed students to participate in prayer with him. And mlp ! is quite correct in the “spectacle” aspect. Prayer—according to the very words of Jesus—is supposed to be a private matter between the supplicant and God (church is a slightly different situation but people are largely there voluntarily).
Joseph West commented on Former FBI Official: The President Is Very Interested In Flooding This Country With People From The Middle East For Some Reason
2015-12-14 12:44:18 -0500
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Well, what Kallstrom’s forgetting is that it’s not easy to tell “Christian” from “Muslim” just by look. At least, when you’re dealing with folks from the Middle East. They do, after all, look pretty much alike (no racial slur intended). They’re kind of like Europeans in that respect. It’s kind of tough to tell a Spaniard apart from an Italian or a Greek, just as it’s tough to tell a German from a Pole or a Swede—based JUST on looks.
A couple of years ago, after the Boston Marathon bombing, a website posted a photo of Chechens to show how difficult it was to “pick out a Chechen” by sight. (I found a link with the picture—the picture quality isn’t great but http://exiledonline.com/spot-the-chechen/ ) All the young men in the photo ARE Chechens, and the balloons in the photo have comments about their resemblances to other ethnic (or national) groups.
A couple of years ago, after the Boston Marathon bombing, a website posted a photo of Chechens to show how difficult it was to “pick out a Chechen” by sight. (I found a link with the picture—the picture quality isn’t great but http://exiledonline.com/spot-the-chechen/ ) All the young men in the photo ARE Chechens, and the balloons in the photo have comments about their resemblances to other ethnic (or national) groups.
Joseph West commented on Fox Loves The Sheriff Who Wants Everyone To Buy Guns And ‘Be Ready To Take On Terrorists’
2015-12-10 14:09:23 -0500
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Let me quote the Sheriff with his REAL meaning:
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good white guy with a gun.”
“We’re looking for our white citizens to either have the ability to eliminate the threat or at the very least stall it until the calvary can arrive,”
“I have absolute faith in our white citizens to help us protect our communities,”
“*White* Americans have had enough. It’s time to stand up, it’s time to unite, not only as white citizens but as state and national leaders and say we’re gonna protect us, we’re gonna protect our white families and the right-wing conservative nutjob values of our country.”
(Just to ask, Ellen. Did the sheriff actually say “calvary?” That’s either a typo in the transcript or it’s a definite Freudian slip.)
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good white guy with a gun.”
“We’re looking for our white citizens to either have the ability to eliminate the threat or at the very least stall it until the calvary can arrive,”
“I have absolute faith in our white citizens to help us protect our communities,”
“*White* Americans have had enough. It’s time to stand up, it’s time to unite, not only as white citizens but as state and national leaders and say we’re gonna protect us, we’re gonna protect our white families and the right-wing conservative nutjob values of our country.”
(Just to ask, Ellen. Did the sheriff actually say “calvary?” That’s either a typo in the transcript or it’s a definite Freudian slip.)
Joseph West commented on Hannity Thinks Trump’s Muslim Hideousness Is A Thing Of Beauty
2015-12-09 02:12:34 -0500
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Ellen, one could always point out that Native Americans experienced some of the most “loving and forgiving” values by Christians for the better part of 5 centuries. Well, that is, the ones who survived the “loving and forgiving” Christians they met.
I’m also pretty sure there are a lot of Jewish Americans who still remember when those “loving and forgiving Christians” weren’t quite so “loving and forgiving” to them. As recently as the late 70s, in fact. (This whole “Judeo-Christian” bullshit only came about when some very notorious anti-Semitic Conservative Christians decided that they needed to explain their support for Israel—the “end of days” scenario they so desperately long for can only come about with an actual country called Israel. The Conservative Christians also felt that Orthodox Jews shared much of the same “social” concerns and distaste for “modern values,” so a “marriage of convenience” was made. Before Reagan, the likes of Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham spoke ONLY of “Christian” values and beliefs; after Reagan, it all suddenly became “Judeo-Christian.”)
I’m also pretty sure there are a lot of Jewish Americans who still remember when those “loving and forgiving Christians” weren’t quite so “loving and forgiving” to them. As recently as the late 70s, in fact. (This whole “Judeo-Christian” bullshit only came about when some very notorious anti-Semitic Conservative Christians decided that they needed to explain their support for Israel—the “end of days” scenario they so desperately long for can only come about with an actual country called Israel. The Conservative Christians also felt that Orthodox Jews shared much of the same “social” concerns and distaste for “modern values,” so a “marriage of convenience” was made. Before Reagan, the likes of Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham spoke ONLY of “Christian” values and beliefs; after Reagan, it all suddenly became “Judeo-Christian.”)
Joseph West commented on Fox’s Suggestions For Young People Facing An Active Shooter Could Get Them Killed
2015-12-09 01:53:57 -0500
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Oh, how I’d love to sit Hasselhack in front of a TV set as I popped in a copy of “Raiders of the Lost Ark.”
Anyone with a decent knowledge of the movie probably already knows what specific scene I’d like to show her but for those who don’t know, you can watch it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE
The fancy swordplay in the scene wouldn’t be all that different from someone displaying his or her (likely amateur) martial arts skill when facing someone with a gun.
Better yet, let’s get a gunman loose in the FoxNoise studios and see just how well krav maga (or any other martial arts) fares against an AR-15 or AK-47 or (more appropriately for krav maga) an Uzi. FWIW, per Wiki, a 9mm Uzi has a muzzle velocity—bullet speed—of 400 meters per second or more than 1300 feet per second.. That’s roughly a quarter of a mile per second, or 900 miles per hour. (Typcially, Formula 1 and NASCAR race cars top out at about 230 mph.)
But, hey, if Hasselhack thinks she could stop a gunman armed with an Uzi with a little krav maga, I’d buy the popcorn and soda for everyone who wants to watch Hasselhack commit suicide. (It really doesn’t take a whole lot of skill to use a gun—especially when you don’t have to worry about silly things like “reloading” after every shot, and most automatic and semi-automatic weapons use magazines which have lots of bullets in them so they can be used pretty constantly. All you need to do with the weapons of choice among “lone gunmen” and “terrorists” is squeeze the trigger until the cartridge chamber empties. It DOES, however, require a decent amount of skill to use ANY martial art—whether judo or karate or krav maga.)
Anyone with a decent knowledge of the movie probably already knows what specific scene I’d like to show her but for those who don’t know, you can watch it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE
The fancy swordplay in the scene wouldn’t be all that different from someone displaying his or her (likely amateur) martial arts skill when facing someone with a gun.
Better yet, let’s get a gunman loose in the FoxNoise studios and see just how well krav maga (or any other martial arts) fares against an AR-15 or AK-47 or (more appropriately for krav maga) an Uzi. FWIW, per Wiki, a 9mm Uzi has a muzzle velocity—bullet speed—of 400 meters per second or more than 1300 feet per second.. That’s roughly a quarter of a mile per second, or 900 miles per hour. (Typcially, Formula 1 and NASCAR race cars top out at about 230 mph.)
But, hey, if Hasselhack thinks she could stop a gunman armed with an Uzi with a little krav maga, I’d buy the popcorn and soda for everyone who wants to watch Hasselhack commit suicide. (It really doesn’t take a whole lot of skill to use a gun—especially when you don’t have to worry about silly things like “reloading” after every shot, and most automatic and semi-automatic weapons use magazines which have lots of bullets in them so they can be used pretty constantly. All you need to do with the weapons of choice among “lone gunmen” and “terrorists” is squeeze the trigger until the cartridge chamber empties. It DOES, however, require a decent amount of skill to use ANY martial art—whether judo or karate or krav maga.)
Joseph West commented on Fox’s Stacey Dash And Ralph Peters Suspended For Calling Obama ‘A Pussy’ Who Doesn’t ‘Give A S***’ About Terrorism
2015-12-08 01:12:48 -0500
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Well, I see the story’s brought out some first-timers (aka “trolls”). Welcome to both “Marie Ann Ferencz*” and “Mike Harley.” I just hope you’re getting paid well for your time. (DOYC knows they’re not being paid for their intelligent thought.)
I just have to wonder what “Mike” thinks about the PREVIOUS administration’s “incompetence” when it came to foreign policy and “understanding of national security” (and, for the record Mike, Obama is a SUPER-GENIUS on those issues compared to the clown car the GOPers are dealing with at the moment) and I also wonder what “Marie” thought was so “good” about the PREVIOUS administration (the only people who came out of the Dubya years better than they started were the multi-millionaires and defense contractors; everyone else pretty much crapped out under Dubya).
Then again, they’re both just following a script so they don’t really have any actual feelings one way or the other. (They just say what they’re told to—like the whores they are.)
*By the way, “Marie,” what kind of last name is that? It sounds pretty foreign to me. Maybe someone needs to investigate her to find out how long she’s been in America.
I just have to wonder what “Mike” thinks about the PREVIOUS administration’s “incompetence” when it came to foreign policy and “understanding of national security” (and, for the record Mike, Obama is a SUPER-GENIUS on those issues compared to the clown car the GOPers are dealing with at the moment) and I also wonder what “Marie” thought was so “good” about the PREVIOUS administration (the only people who came out of the Dubya years better than they started were the multi-millionaires and defense contractors; everyone else pretty much crapped out under Dubya).
Then again, they’re both just following a script so they don’t really have any actual feelings one way or the other. (They just say what they’re told to—like the whores they are.)
*By the way, “Marie,” what kind of last name is that? It sounds pretty foreign to me. Maybe someone needs to investigate her to find out how long she’s been in America.