Average American Patriot
I want to add a couple more points.
Billdo and other assorted wingnutz have been braying President Obama’s intentions are to destroy the economy and then re-built it into something like Europe.
Does that reek of stupid?
Follow the logic of the wingnut morons. For a Marxist Communist far left President, he is doing a lousy job nationalizing Wall St., the oil companies, the car and aircraft industries, information tech companies, taking over the media and enforcing censorship on the net.
But one thing is true, the jab creators can’t wait to leave and stop enduring such tyranny.
Imagine that! They are leaving for … for… for… for the freedumbs spreading like wild fire in Iraq?
Bob Kluver: Yeah, I’m doing much better now than in 2008. I started a business in 2003, and it was a struggle. In 2008, I was ready to throw in the towel, but I hung on. Because of the trashed economy that was caused by irrefutable reasons that every person with a brain understands, it has been a tough road. But in 2013, I already have current contracts for 5 times my total earnings in 2008, and I have more new work coming in every week. My clients are expanding and are positive about the future. Oh, one more thing. Because of the “hated” Obamacare, I was able to secure excellent and affordable healthcare insurance for my wife. Because of pre-existing conditions, we couldn’t get her insurance after losing previous coverage. You bet we are better off than I was in 2008, and so are many millions of other Americans. I’m sorry you are so lost in your right wing propaganda that you can’t find reality.
@ Kluver: do you have any more of those silly (aka childish) red herrings?
Yeah, where else would you suggest I go?
Is that really what you’re going to go with?
Okay, robbing liquor stores don’t count.
2013-03-14 23:49:51 -0400
I’m doing better than I was in 2008. I have the same job and make about $10k more per year.
Some of the smartest people I know are idiots. Anyone who thinks the economy is getting better has some serious issues. We are going on 17 billion dollars in debt. We are freaking broke, you can’t put enough lipstick on this pig to convince me we are out of the woods. Are you better off than you were in 2008?
In a market with a short-term focus, brought on by the constant turmoil in Washington, jobs are not created. Jobs involves long term investment and long term planning. That requires a coherent period of political stability. As a business man you need to plan things out, into the future, and that becomes increasingly difficult with this mess. Thus, it’s safer to go for short term actions/gains for the moment. Only, that doesn’t create the jobs we want. BUT
that said, the economy is in a perfect spot for a quick and strong recovery, if only Washington could get their act together.
Average American Patriot
When your unemployment runs out, you file for disability.
Disability benefits are for people who are DISABLED
, and the applicant needs a doctor’s certification of the DISABILITY
Being illiterate and unable to read doesn’t count.
Parroting wingnut talking points shows signs of mental damage, but it still doesn’t count.
I don’t think you understand what the measurement of “unemployment” really means. Unemployment is a measurement of people who do not have jobs, and who are attempting to find employment. If you want to start including people who gave up filing for employment and are no longer seeking employment then you have to count EVERYONE
who doesn’t have a job including underage people, elderly, disabled. You don’t really get to pick and choose who is “unemployed” to support your own agenda.
The economy is not getting better. The unemployment numbers reflect people filing for unemployment. It has nothing to do with the real unemployment numbers. When your unemployment runs out, you file for disability. Those numbers have risen astronomically! Add those numbers to the unemployment numbers and that will give you a better idea of the real unemployment figure which is around 18%. If everybody in the USA
filed for unemployment this month, next month the unemployment rate would be zero, and no one would be working, but the real unemployment rate would be 100%. Caroline Heldman is a idiot, and what’s even more scarey is she might be teaching your kids!!
Only a FoxGOPTV bullshit swallowing sheep would think the economy is not getting better. These trolls sure love to repeat the debunked FoxGOPTV lies.
I spoke with the guy that handles our CAD
software licenses today for our engineering division. He said all his customers seem to be picking up and doing really well.
The real reason the stock market is doing well is simply that there are few other investment avenues that can show a profit. Bonds, CDs, T-Bills, and the like are flatter than Nebraska due to essentially zero interest retuen on investment. This is a symptom of a sick economy, not evidence of health. Perhaps she should listen up a bit when frequenting Fox.
2013-03-13 20:14:56 -0400
Only a liberal idiot would think the economy is getting better. Does this lady live in the real world?
The rich get richer and the poor get shit. ’Murica.
How come things are not any cheaper??
If the economy is getting better how come it costs more to live??
I dont like Repubs or Demos… 2 sides of the same coin…
The economy is not growing. The stock market is doing quite well due to high optimism about the next couple of quarters and the ESTIMATED
growth in companies. The stock market is just one factor when calculating GDP
. If you were to compare our GDP
to the other countries internationally you would find that we have consistently fallen in rankings compared to other countries in the past 8-10 years. The best thing to compare us to is Japan and their housing market crash and the post-effects of it. Just a stagnant market. Unemployment remains rather constant and inflation is not increasing. We are in looking to be doing the exact thing.
@ fish and doors 17. If Becktard’s moronic listeners had invested in the stock market rather than survival food and overpriced gold coins, they could now buy into his libertarian amusement park.
2013-03-13 12:05:44 -0400
God forbid I should be able to live with dignity and grace,without worries about what else the repulsive Repubs want to eliminate from our lives.
Thx4 Fish, I’m having the same issues with barrels full of wheat that I’ve been stockpiling. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to get back to my post and keep my eyes out for black helicopters.
Hannity and Picket, two bastions of “truth” against Caroline Heldman. They lost the debate before it even started. She made fools of them, but Foxbots will refuse to recognize that. Hannity may be too dumb to realize his tired talking points don’t carry any weight. Hannity is not a likeable fellow in any way. Of course he may tip well. He can only relate to people and gain friends by flaunting his wealth. Dr. Heldman has to say nice things so she will get invited back to share some more truth to the Fox viewers. I laughed at Picket’s weak arguments, such as when she questioned the unemployment rate because “people are losing jobs”. Ms. Picket, you may not know it, but jobs are always being lost somewhere. The truth you can’t accept is that we are gaining jobs faster than we are losing them. That causes the unemployment rate to drop. Should I explain it in more detail??
Does Hannity really think that a Brietbart columnist is a credible guest? Of course he does, simply because they agree on the means to destroy our nation.
What am I gonna do with an attic full of survival meals?
KKKlannity longs for the bygone Dumbya years. Stock market spiraling downward and unemployment spiraling upward. And two unending trillion dollar Muslims wars. They just don’t make Presidents like that anymore.
President Obama is the worst socialist ever.
If unemployment gets down below 6% then I’m sure we can all look forward to Fox telling us that Obama is overheating the economy and endangering us all with the possibility of inflation.
Sean Hannity last night in which he argued that the booming stock market was not a sign of economic recovery
And I remember hypocrite kkklannity having quite the opposite opinion when dumbya was his king.
Does anyone else remember during dumbya’s misadministration, whenever the stockmarket went up even 1 point all the FoxGOPTV pukes, kkklannity included, squealed with delight and praised their savior dumbya to high heaven for the booming stock market and economic recovery?
I’m sure if we could have seen the faces at Fox News when the jobs report was released last week they would all look like they just took a swig of sour milk.
Average American Patriot
Are you talking about manufacturing in the USA or manufacturing over in China?
On February 2001, the Dow Jones was around 10,500.
On February 2009, the Dow Jones was at 7,000.
That’s not all.
Sept. 2002, 7,500.
Oct. 2007, 13,900.
Hang Seng index:
On February 2001, ^HSI
was around 14,800.
On February 2009, ^HSI
Sept. 2002, 9,100.
Oct. 2007, 30,350.
China is the world’s second largest economy
China has become the world’s second largest economy, with Japan surrendering its 42-year-old ranking after its economy shrank in the final months of 2010.
China has claimed since as early as 2008 that it either was, or was imminently poised to become, the world’s second-largest economy.
China bashing has become a popular meme for idiots, both on the left and the right, who don’t know what they are talking about.
One thing is true. Jobs outsourced to the cheapest vendor is not a secret. Even Chinese companies move their manufacturing operations to places with lower costs.
That is why Toyota, Honda, and Nissan started manufacturing in the USA
That is why Samsung owns a behemoth plant in Tijuana.
Enough examples. Let’s get back to POS
The wingnuts loooooove to bitch about how the gubbimint don’t create no jabs.
I tried to illustrate how them jabs creators create jobs anywhere they can save or make a buck.
But when they lose money, they come begging for salvation from the same gubbimmint they hate so much.
El capital no tiene patria. Money has no loyalty to any nation.
Oh, the stock market comparison is to illustrate they, Asian investors, do pay attention to their cash cow. The Dow is an indicator of the USA’s economy to the rest of the world.
But leave it to KKKlownnity braying we are on the verge of communism.
I’m actually having quite a lot of fun reminding local foxies that the stock market is doing so well.
Not because I actually think it means much for ordinary people. Just getting my own back with people who kept on preaching doom and gloom because the stock market was weak. Won’t let them forget how important they used to think the stock market was.