Fox Guest: I Have Never Met A Group Of People Who Are So Upset That The Economy Is Rebounding Than The Folks Over At Fox

Caroline Heldman, a frequent Fox News guest, had a bit of a blowout with Sean Hannity last night in which he argued that the booming stock market was not a sign of economic recovery because, he asked rhetorically, "those people on food stamps, are they investing in the stock market?” To which Heldman replied, "I’m impressed that you’re now concerned about the poor, thank you for that.” Tonight, Heldman was a guest on Al Sharpton's PoliticsNation where she said, "I have never met a group of people who are so upset that the economy is rebounding than the folks over at Fox."

Heldman went on to explain all the signs of economic rebound and added, "It is getting better and we can't be in denial about this because that actually affects consumer confidence."

Like me, Heldman thinks "it's important to ...engage the other side." However, she added, "I think that Sean Hannity is a perfectly likeable person. I happen to know that he tips 100% in his private life. I just wish that his public stances and the stances of Republicans didn't go after the poor, the elderly, kids - with Pell Grant cuts, Medicaid cuts, job training cuts. You really do have to put your money where your mouth is."

Sharpton agreed that he has nothing against Hannity personally.

I'm all for liking people personally and I'll even grant that Hannity may be a "perfectly likeable person." But tipping 100% is grandiose and self-serving to a guy like Hannity. He'll have to do something a little more humble to convince me he cares about working class people.

And as for Sharpton, it still astounds me that he has yet to notice, much less object to, Hannity's bigotry and race-baiting.

Heldman's appearance on Hannity is below, followed by the discussion on PoliticsNation.

(H/T Media Matters)

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Average American Patriot commented 2013-03-15 11:22:42 -0400 · Flag

I want to add a couple more points.

Billdo and other assorted wingnutz have been braying President Obama’s intentions are to destroy the economy and then re-built it into something like Europe.

Does that reek of stupid?

Follow the logic of the wingnut morons. For a Marxist Communist far left President, he is doing a lousy job nationalizing Wall St., the oil companies, the car and aircraft industries, information tech companies, taking over the media and enforcing censorship on the net.

But one thing is true, the jab creators can’t wait to leave and stop enduring such tyranny.

Imagine that! They are leaving for … for… for… for the freedumbs spreading like wild fire in Iraq?

Richard Peterson commented 2013-03-15 09:37:46 -0400 · Flag

Bob Kluver: Yeah, I’m doing much better now than in 2008. I started a business in 2003, and it was a struggle. In 2008, I was ready to throw in the towel, but I hung on. Because of the trashed economy that was caused by irrefutable reasons that every person with a brain understands, it has been a tough road. But in 2013, I already have current contracts for 5 times my total earnings in 2008, and I have more new work coming in every week. My clients are expanding and are positive about the future. Oh, one more thing. Because of the “hated” Obamacare, I was able to secure excellent and affordable healthcare insurance for my wife. Because of pre-existing conditions, we couldn’t get her insurance after losing previous coverage. You bet we are better off than I was in 2008, and so are many millions of other Americans. I’m sorry you are so lost in your right wing propaganda that you can’t find reality.

bemused commented 2013-03-15 05:40:19 -0400 · Flag

@bob Kluver: do you have any more of those silly (aka childish) red herrings?

Bob Kluver commented 2013-03-15 00:25:25 -0400 · Flag

Yeah, where else would you suggest I go?

Steve McGurk commented 2013-03-15 00:13:47 -0400 · Flag

Is that really what you’re going to go with?

Bob Kluver commented 2013-03-15 00:12:51 -0400 · Flag

Okay, robbing liquor stores don’t count.

Steve McGurk commented 2013-03-14 23:49:51 -0400 · Flag

I’m doing better than I was in 2008. I have the same job and make about $10k more per year.

Bob Kluver commented 2013-03-14 23:45:40 -0400 · Flag

Some of the smartest people I know are idiots. Anyone who thinks the economy is getting better has some serious issues. We are going on 17 billion dollars in debt. We are freaking broke, you can’t put enough lipstick on this pig to convince me we are out of the woods. Are you better off than you were in 2008?

Mikael Bergkvist commented 2013-03-14 05:43:39 -0400 · Flag

In a market with a short-term focus, brought on by the constant turmoil in Washington, jobs are not created. Jobs involves long term investment and long term planning. That requires a coherent period of political stability. As a business man you need to plan things out, into the future, and that becomes increasingly difficult with this mess. Thus, it’s safer to go for short term actions/gains for the moment. Only, that doesn’t create the jobs we want. BUT that said, the economy is in a perfect spot for a quick and strong recovery, if only Washington could get their act together.

Average American Patriot commented 2013-03-14 01:28:42 -0400 · Flag

When your unemployment runs out, you file for disability.

Dear lard…

Disability benefits are for people who are DISABLED, and the applicant needs a doctor’s certification of the DISABILITY.

Being illiterate and unable to read doesn’t count.

Parroting wingnut talking points shows signs of mental damage, but it still doesn’t count.

Steve McGurk commented 2013-03-13 23:55:47 -0400 · Flag

I don’t think you understand what the measurement of “unemployment” really means. Unemployment is a measurement of people who do not have jobs, and who are attempting to find employment. If you want to start including people who gave up filing for employment and are no longer seeking employment then you have to count EVERYONE who doesn’t have a job including underage people, elderly, disabled. You don’t really get to pick and choose who is “unemployed” to support your own agenda.

Bob Kluver commented 2013-03-13 23:43:31 -0400 · Flag

The economy is not getting better. The unemployment numbers reflect people filing for unemployment. It has nothing to do with the real unemployment numbers. When your unemployment runs out, you file for disability. Those numbers have risen astronomically! Add those numbers to the unemployment numbers and that will give you a better idea of the real unemployment figure which is around 18%. If everybody in the USA filed for unemployment this month, next month the unemployment rate would be zero, and no one would be working, but the real unemployment rate would be 100%. Caroline Heldman is a idiot, and what’s even more scarey is she might be teaching your kids!!

Visitor 55 commented 2013-03-13 22:41:54 -0400 · Flag

Only a FoxGOPTV bullshit swallowing sheep would think the economy is not getting better. These trolls sure love to repeat the debunked FoxGOPTV lies.

Milkin Honey commented 2013-03-13 21:37:04 -0400 · Flag

I spoke with the guy that handles our CAD software licenses today for our engineering division. He said all his customers seem to be picking up and doing really well.

David Dalby commented 2013-03-13 20:43:52 -0400 · Flag

The real reason the stock market is doing well is simply that there are few other investment avenues that can show a profit. Bonds, CDs, T-Bills, and the like are flatter than Nebraska due to essentially zero interest retuen on investment. This is a symptom of a sick economy, not evidence of health. Perhaps she should listen up a bit when frequenting Fox.

Eric Hazlett commented 2013-03-13 20:14:56 -0400 · Flag

Only a liberal idiot would think the economy is getting better. Does this lady live in the real world?

Jeff Demanche commented 2013-03-13 17:56:00 -0400 · Flag

The rich get richer and the poor get shit. ’Murica.

brant callahan commented 2013-03-13 17:42:51 -0400 · Flag

How come things are not any cheaper??
If the economy is getting better how come it costs more to live??

I dont like Repubs or Demos… 2 sides of the same coin…

C S commented 2013-03-13 14:35:22 -0400 · Flag

The economy is not growing. The stock market is doing quite well due to high optimism about the next couple of quarters and the ESTIMATED growth in companies. The stock market is just one factor when calculating GDP. If you were to compare our GDP to the other countries internationally you would find that we have consistently fallen in rankings compared to other countries in the past 8-10 years. The best thing to compare us to is Japan and their housing market crash and the post-effects of it. Just a stagnant market. Unemployment remains rather constant and inflation is not increasing. We are in looking to be doing the exact thing.

truman commented 2013-03-13 13:42:46 -0400 · Flag

@thx4 fish and doors 17. If Becktard’s moronic listeners had invested in the stock market rather than survival food and overpriced gold coins, they could now buy into his libertarian amusement park.

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