@jeramie. I saw a pretty lengthy interview with Hammar’s mother live on F&F, where she said – quite candidly – that he’d NOT done what was required, namely go to a Mexican embassy for a permit to take the gun into Mexico.

She called it “a clerical error”, but that can’t be since the perp was her son not the Mexicans. He ignored the law and I believe that’s no excuse even in the USA.

I’m also pretty convinced that the border guards would have warned Hammar against crossing the border without the proper paperwork had they actually seen that gun.

Finally, I believe that border entries are plastered almost wall-to-wall with billboards saying “NO GUNS”.

In any case, I think even the Mexicans would like to get him back into the USA but not at the cost of appearing to kowtow to another country. Bill O’Reilly is not helping by giving them orders: it can only get their backs up and perhaps delay the release of that young man.

Jeramie, I’m curious as to which two Active Duty Marines have “first hand knowledge” about this case and are talking about it in public. Unless you’re referring to the defendant and his friend, who were discharged some time ago, long before this personal trip to Mexico. Having worked with Marines for several years, I can tell you that one thing they understand quite well is a system of rules and regulations. Going past multiple signs saying “NO GUNS” and deciding to bring a rifle into the area anyway would go against that training in a big way.

It’s a shame that your defense appears to be a smear against the Mexican Ambassador. If you read his statement, you would see that he put a great deal of time and thought into his response, which included taking the time to review the case itself.

Nobody is saying that Jon Hammar is a bad person. The facts are that he broke Mexican law, and he was on Mexican soil when he did it. The Mexican legal system has been processing him since August and his court date will be in January, after which I’d expect him to be deported back to the U.S. in short order. I’m sure that Hammar will never make this mistake again, and that a lot of other Americans will pay attention to the mistake he made, and not repeat it themselves.

What Kevin said. Jeramie, if you read my previous post on O’Reilly and the Hammar case, you’d see that I am sympathetic to him. But it’s ludicrous, unseemly and in my opinion unethical for a news channel to be giving marching orders and then threatening Mexico. Even if they were holding Jesus Christ, himself, chained to a bed on trumped-up charges.

I’m going to go ahead and believe two U.S. Marines that have first hand knowledge of what happened, but you can go ahead and take the word of the Mexican Ambassador who’s trying to protect his country’s already terrible image though, Kevin.

And how very adult of you, mlp. You should try out for a spot on MSNBC with a rock solid retort like that. BTW, Christ should be capitalized. It is a proper name and English grammar calls for proper names to begin with capital letters. If you’re going to play grammar police, you should probably check your own posts first.

A ‘likey’ for Kevin!
And a ‘WTF?’ for ‘Jeramie’.
Oh, christ….I just realized why trolls can’t spell: it’s hereditary!
(Jeramie??)

Jeramie, you may want to read a little more on the subject before deciding that Jon Hammar did everything legally. According to the Mexican Ambassador, his shotgun was not cleared and is the reason why Mr. Hammar is continuing to go through the legal system.

I see no indication that Ellen threw him “under the bus”, and his post-combat issues were not even being discussed or dismissed in the manner you’re suggesting. The issue is that he broke Mexican law and the Mexicans take this issue quite seriously – in the same way that we would if a Mexican national came up here with an illegal gun. It appears that the Mexican authorities are actually trying to look out for Jon Hammar in that they’re not just throwing him out into the general population. From what we’ve seen so far, it looks like they’ll deport him back to the US once his trial happens, which should be very short, given that this is a simple infraction that was caught before he could do anything else.

The reason Bill O’Reilly’s name has come up is because he’s making a cause out of Jon Hammar, going so far as to make threats against another nation and then tell the President that he wants Executive action on the matter. Ellen is simply pointing out that O’Reilly is wildly overreaching again – he’s trying to get people like you very upset about a matter that he’s figuring you won’t know much about. And he’s hoping your moral outrage over what’s really a technical matter and a clear violation of Mexican law will allow him to once again grandstand – just as he regularly does on a host of issues. Ellen’s action here is to appropriately call O’Reilly on his shenanigans and to make sure that it’s been publicly noted that he’s doing it again. This way, when O’Reilly goes on TV and says “I never do things like that”, people who have been paying attention can immediately correct the record for him.

Every story I’ve read says that John did everything legally. His shotgun was cleared by Mexican and American border agents prior to him entering Mexico.

Very classy of this article’s author to throw an American combat veteran suffering from PTSD from tours in Iraq and Afghanistan under the bus for an opportunity to attack Bill O’Reilly though.

I just had a mental image of orally charging up the Pyramid of the Sun with a loofah held in his outstretched hand, yelling something odd.

Mexican authorities must be asking themselves today: Quién es este pendejo Bildo? (Who is this asshole Bildo?)

I’m pretty sure that sums it up- I doubt they’re quaking at anything he could do, because he has no authority to do anything serious… which may be the only thing keeping him from getting a letter telling him to roll back the tough guy talk.

The cartels, however? They think they own Mexico’s government, so if he offends them with his tough guy talk, they’ll send someone to tell him in person. And I actually am worried about it going that happening.

So far we are only hearing the side of Hammar’s parents. Their version. I find it extremely unlikely that an American customs/border agent told this guy to just go ahead and bring your shotgun across the border into Mexico and register it there, knowing it is against Mexican law. I’ve read that any weapon has to be registered before you hit the border and you would have signed papers showing the registration. Numbnuts probably figured the Mexicans wouldn’t search the trailer. Oops!!!!

O’Reilly probably had a bad time once in Tijuana. That’s why he has such a case against Mexico. Plus, I think the people down there are a little darker than he likes.

This is simply a case O’Reily wants to pump his chest and take credit for when this former Marine is released. It’s been worked on by people behind the scences for weeks and O’Rielys rage helps in no way but to pump his own ego starved mind. You watch when he is released, Billdoe will take the credit and his followers will swallow it hook line and sinker, the fools that they are.

he Universe.

Little Billy EGO’reilly, our Comic Book super Hero/ Moral Arbitor Of T

Are there any more words left to describe this nincumpoop.
I propose we all march to the border on the US side of course and watch Bile take on the Mexican Federales all by himself.
I don’t know much ,but what I do know is that Mexico does not put American citizens in jail for no reason,
There is much more to this story of this I’m convinced.One good thing came out of his newest obsession we can now celebrate Christmas in peace,I guess he figured that war was a lost cause.

Being that BOR has no idea what is going on behind the scenes in this matter, it’s irresponsible of him to throw his nasty accusations at the President/State Dept. If we are really being told the whole story and this truly is just a trumped-up charge (despite the fact that, techinically, Hammar apparently did break the law), I want Hammar back home too. But BOR’s chest-thumping, threats and finger pointing are adding nothing of value to the situation.

What’s seems untoward about BOR’s behavior is that he’s made his opinion known on the matter numerous times now yet he keeps bringing it up again in his usual threatening/chest-thumping style. Yes, BOR, you’re pissed off – we get it aleady! But, because he keeps choosing to find ways to bang this drum (even via his emai!), I can’t help but wonder if there’s not more to it. As per BOR’s typical modus operandi, there usually has to be something in it for him too. Since the BOR couldn’t keep Obama from getting elected and the so-called “war on Christmas” is over, does BOR need another reason to rant/rage in an attempt to keep himself relevant? From what at least one of the FL politicians involved has said, Hammar will most likely be released soon (depending on your definition of soon, I suppose). So is BOR just looking to get some credit when Hammar is eventually sent back home (whether BOR had jumped into the matter or not)? It would hardly be the first time that BOR has tried to take some credit for something that was already going to happen anyway (i.e. Senator Jim Webb’s GI Bill).

BOR has clearly realized that this is the perfect opportunity to make harsh attacks on Obama and not be seen as the anti-Obama pundit he truly is. After all, most everyone wants Hammar out of jail and back home with his family, right? The folks will simply think that BOR has Hammar’s best interest at heart and will overlook how much BOR enjoys this chance to take pot shots at Obama. BOR can also go after Hillary, another Dem that he doesn’t like. I hope NHs caught the snide insinuations, inappropriate remarks and chuckles at Hillary’s expense during BOR’s segments last night with Colmes/Crowley and later with Cameron/Rosen. Geez.

Btw, BOR has managed to get himself on today’s “The Five” show. Last time BOR was on “The Five”, he used his appearance there to attack Obama because he had not declared the Occupy Movement to be terrorists. Gee, I wonder if the Hammar matter will be a topic of outrage? BOR on “The Five” = attacks on Obama?

Sweet Pedro Infante en pan tostado… I better not.

There are government officials in both countries and the Tamaulipas State Chamber of Commerce pleading for the release of Mr. Hammar, BEFORE Christmas.

In the Fox gNOpig Propaganda Network Billdo may be the smelliest pile on B.S. mountain, but in Mexico Rupert’s only presence is through Fox Sports. Grupo Televisa and Grupo Azteca are the two media big boys.
Nobody gives a sht about Rupert’s Propaganda Network. And most certainly Mexicans know who won the latest soccer championship but never heard about Billdo.

Billdo can rub his loofahs over himself until his… er, until he is raw. It doesn’t change a damned thing, but Billdo’s little ego.

Now seriously. Obviously this is monumental phuck up by greedy mexican “law officers” and NOBODY is going to step up admitting to it. Especially during the holidays or “Temporada Navideña” Because Mexico has this implicit holiday “Puente Guadalupe-Reyes” (Dec 12 through January 7) when NOTHING gets done.

I hope Mexican government officials stop being so stupid over such an embarrassment and release Mr. Hammar immediately for three reasons.

1) Porque son una bola de pendejos.
2) Estan haciendo quedar mal a Mexico.
3) Billdo va a hacer chillar al osito Bimbo cuidando a Baby J.
No se vale. No se vale.

I haven’t been keeping up with this but I did see Billo’s most recent rant. Watching it was a bit surreal. My initial reaction was that it’s finally settling in that Obama was re-elected and Fox has moved from denial into anger. I wonder what the “bargaining” stage will look like?

Mexican authorities must be asking themselves today: Quién es este pendejo Bildo? (Who is this asshole Bildo?)

Billy will have to keep monitoring those new installments of “Locked Up Abroad” on the National Geographic Channel. There would be plenty of fodder there for him to stick his nose in if the people hadn’t already been released after serving their sentence or the other diplomatic maneuver or bribe. Looks like that’s what’s going to need to happen in this case unless he can deploy his army down there first.