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Alan Colmes Apologizes To Rick Santorum Over Dead Baby Comments

Posted by Ellen -393pc on January 03, 2012 · Flag

Fox News contributor - and probably its most muscular liberal - Alan Colmes got into some political hot water Monday (1/2/12) over his comments on Happening Now about the surging presidential candidacy of Rick Santorum. Colmes was trying to make the argument that Santorum's popularity would likely wither under the ensuing media scrutiny. “Once (voters) get a load of some of the crazy things he’s said and done, like taking his two hour-old baby, who died right after childbirth, home and played with it for a couple of hours so his other children would know that the child was real,” Colmes said.  The other guest, conservative Rich Lowry, became outraged at the “cheap shot” and the debate remained heated throughout the rest of the eight-minute segment.

Colmes probably did not choose the best instance of Santorum craziness to highlight given that it involved a family grieving over a dead child. But considering the kinds of attacks against Democrats that are the usual fare on Fox News, it’s hard for me to feel that Colmes was too far out of bounds.

Here’s the incident Colmes was talking about as it was written up in the New York Times in 2005:

The childbirth in 1996 was a source of terrible heartbreak -- the couple were told by doctors early in the pregnancy that the baby (wife) Karen was carrying had a fatal defect and would survive only for a short time outside the womb. According to Karen Santorum's book, ''Letters to Gabriel: The True Story of Gabriel Michael Santorum,'' she later developed a life-threatening intrauterine infection and a fever that reached nearly 105 degrees. She went into labor when she was 20 weeks pregnant. After resisting at first, she allowed doctors to give her the drug Pitocin to speed the birth. Gabriel lived just two hours.

What happened after the death is a kind of snapshot of a cultural divide. Some would find it discomforting, strange, even ghoulish -- others brave and deeply spiritual. Rick and Karen Santorum would not let the morgue take the corpse of their newborn; they slept that night in the hospital with their lifeless baby between them. The next day, they took him home. ''Your siblings could not have been more excited about you!'' Karen writes in the book, which takes the form of letters to Gabriel, mostly while he is in utero. ''Elizabeth and Johnny held you with so much love and tenderness. Elizabeth proudly announced to everyone as she cuddled you, 'This is my baby brother, Gabriel; he is an angel.' ''

Lowry, ordinarily one of the milder-mannered of the Fox News stable of conservative pundits, perfectly exemplified that cultural divide. He repeatedly interrupted and lambasted Colmes – who refused to be silenced. Unfortunately, with all the fireworks, Colmes’ larger point - that Santorum is “so far outside the mainstream that he is not, he can’t be taken seriously as a candidate” – got a bit lost.

Several hours later, after a tearful response from Karen Santorum, Colmes tweeted that he had apologized to the family for his “hurtful comment” and that his apology had been “graciously accepted." The matter was later discussed briefly on Hannity where Santorum reiterated his acceptance of the apology.

Colmes did the right thing by apologizing. But the wrath he’s facing over at Fox Nation – where the Colmes/Lowry debate is currently the top story – is more than a little hypocritical. After all, this is the same group of chatters who regularly discuss murdering liberals and Democrats.

And let’s not forget what sort of things are said on the air on Fox about Democrats:

“Most blacks, not all but most in Tennessee, especially in the Memphis, Tennessee area, are still living in the 50’s and 60’s. They are so racist that they don’t even realize that white Americans have moved on. And so whenever there’s a campaign like this, such as this, they always use racism in order to intimidate white America.” (8/6/08)

“I think we all agree that Barack Obama was elected by, mostly by black racists and white guilty people. Most black Americans, 96 percent of them, are racists who (unintelligible) white Americans.” (2/3/09)

If you think about liabilities for President Obama that are close to him, Joe Biden is up there. But Michelle Obama's right there. Michelle Obama, you know she's got the Stokely Carmichael in a designer dress thing going. (1/26/09)

Is there anything that (Obama) likes about this country? (8/24/11)

“It’s clear that the Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry wing of the Democratic Party has a visceral loathing for the American military and for, frankly, America as a country in the world… I think it tells you how deep the sickness is in the left wing of the Democratic Party.” (11/1/06)

Every one of the people who spoke those remarks is a regular on Fox News.

So you’ll have to forgive me for not feeling too concerned about the suddenly tender feelings of the Fox News community.

 

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Aria Prescott commented 2012-01-04 18:30:43 -0500 · Flag
Jay, no one here ever said that Fox News never apologizes or pulls retractions. What I said personally below can be translated into this:

I have only seen Fox News hosts and contributors who are Democrats apologize or pull a retraction without being forced. And during their forced retraction, they roll their eyes, groan it out like a little kid, then mock the people they apologzed to.

They’re not sorry in the least. But thank you for playing…

When CNN, HLN, MSNBC, Broadcast or NPR apologize/pull retractions, at least you can believe they understand what they did wrong and that they feel some degree of sincere remorse.

And care to explain to me how Fox News is the “diverse” market? Calling on people with differing opinions to tell them to shut up every time they try to talk doesn’t count, hun.
Jay Goode commented 2012-01-04 14:04:47 -0500 · Flag
Any suggestions that Fox News or its staffers never apologize for the misdeeds and misstatements is not factual. I’ve seen many retractions and apologies.

However, CNN and MSNBC and that ilk seem to never apologize.

Then again what good does an apology in a visual medium do? Once you have seen it, it’s out there. The viewers who watched the original piece most likely are not the same ones viewing the apology.

Fox seems to be the only news channel that presents diversity of opinion. Rather than looking for news that I can agree with, I want to see a marketplace of ideas presented. I’m smart enough to weed out the chaff. I agree with Colmes on this one. I don’t know where Santorum was coming from when he wagged that dead baby around. Yuk!
el84 commented 2012-01-04 11:06:54 -0500 · Flag
There’s an Alice Cooper song I want to dedicate to Rick Santorum.
el84 commented 2012-01-03 22:13:20 -0500 · Flag
Rick Patel – cut and run.
vermontdave commented 2012-01-03 20:48:23 -0500 · Flag
‘Like’ @ yakki!
Joe Waustinski commented 2012-01-03 19:08:35 -0500 · Flag
Just the GOP clown I want next to the red phone at 3 AM - NOT!!
Yakki PsD commented 2012-01-03 18:42:31 -0500 · Flag
Steve. I’m sorry but I have a question. You don’t watch Fox news much….but do you listen to rw radio? That’s the only thing I can think of that would make you clearly INTEND to miss the point made.

As to Colmes,he did alright if that’s what he felt he needed to do. Personally,I wouldn’t have. That’s a twisted thing to put your living children through,right there. I’m sorry,no amount of that bs equates respect to me. Not for their living children or the poor,dead wee bairn.

It also points out to me,that both Rick and his wife are weak. We all suffer loss. We’ve all lost those we love. Many of us have lost children pre-birth. But there are very few who pretend out dead child is a cabbage patch doll.

I don’t feel sorry for them in that respect as it’s SICK IN THE HEAD to do something like that. I have a great respect for their loss however.
Aria Prescott commented 2012-01-03 17:05:31 -0500 · Flag
Steve, lucky for you then that everyone who writes for this site spends a lot of time on Fox News, Fox Radio and the websites. We have not only found bias on a regular basis, but in many cases that bias has been violent. Like you wouldn’t be able to tell it apart from a hate group or doestic terrorist if I put them side by side. I remember a game we used to have where we would take a quote from the Unabomber, McViegh and Anders Breivik and put it next to a quote from a Fox News host, then see how many people could tell them apart.

Wanna guess how many hosts only scored off lucky guesses?

Whether it’s slanderous narrative designed to induce hatred (which O’Reilly is well-known for, since you mentioned him) to their viewers using the site to outright discuss murdering regular targets of their bias… it’s there.

Absolutely no denying it’s there.

And once again… how is this article biased? Ellen said Colmes was right to apologize because his actions were out of bounds and she is correct about that with Fox News, it’s kinda funny that only their hosts who are known Democrats can own up to their mistakes without being forced.

Even if we broaden it to include contributors, the Independents, Libertarians and Republicans just look at people who are offended enough to ask for one like they’re stupid.

Hell, A couple of them like Malkin even take it one step further by badmouthing the people she offended in her “apology” then telling them to live with that being the best they’re going to get. Malkin’s about as tactless as they get, but that’s just slimy and there is no bias in pointing that out.

You can’t help me? I think it’s the other way around.
patrick tolle commented 2012-01-03 16:12:40 -0500 · Flag
Ricky/Tawdry/ whoever the hell else shows up with the typical winger commentary.Namely it’s always a winger who’s the first to inject the word or concept “hate” or "hatred"into any conversation. I can only surmise this is the result of a long, intimate relationship with the emotion to the point it’s their primary point of reference and the basis on which most of their decisions are made. It also blithers about manners and morals which,whenever a winger breaks into that discussion means that the person in question doesn’t agree precisely with the winger doing the blithering. Fortunately they’re generally easy to ignore. Ricky/Tawdry morethan most for usually being so substance and fact-free and for never having the fortitude to defend its inanities.
Steve Reynolds commented 2012-01-03 16:08:53 -0500 · Flag
If you cannot see a political viewpoint in her article then I can’t help you. I watch Fox occasionally and I have never seen political bias on their news shows, not comentary shows, but news. I also think if you will check O’Reilly has at least a equal number of liberal and conservative guests on his show even though it is not hard news. I do not watch Sean Hannity because I agree that he only subscribes to one viewpoint and that does not interest me.

I did not say what Fox did was all good but Ellen certainly has no room to criticize their bias.
Aria Prescott commented 2012-01-03 15:37:53 -0500 · Flag
Steve, the point of the article was that, even though Colmes was right to apologize overall… has anyone else affiliated with Fox News apologized for any of their current outrages?

Did O’Reilly apologize for his stunt with the Umbrella or did he just go on the air and try to justify himself, like a Jackass?

Did Glenn Beck ever apologize for his “race relations” comment?

Did Hannity ever apologize for his racist remarks?

Let’s not even go into Megyn Kelly- if she was capable of apologizing (without looking annoyed about it), she’d end he show by apologizing for half of it daily.

Colmes did the right thing- he’s the first (and perhaps only) one who did that without acting annoyed or forced into it. If you wanna find bias in that being pointed out… go for it. Says far more about you than it ever will about this article.
Priscilla commented 2012-01-03 15:29:02 -0500 · Flag
“Why can’t the author of this story just report the news and not give her political viewpoint.”

What political viewpoint? She was merely pointing out that those who were so outraged about what Colmes said didn’t seem to have the same level of vitriol about other comments, on Fox, that were equally offensive.
Steve Reynolds commented 2012-01-03 15:01:01 -0500 · Flag
Why can’t the author of this story just report the news and not give her political viewpoint. What Alan Colmes did was wrong, as he admitted, and nothing else that goes on at Fox makes it any better. The author, Ellen, has shown the same bias that she is accusing Fox of having. Somewhat hypocritical if you ask me.
Library Lady commented 2012-01-03 12:42:04 -0500 · Flag
“Most blacks, not all but most in Tennessee, especially in the Memphis, Tennessee area, are still living in the 50’s and 60’s. They are so racist that they don’t even realize that white Americans have moved on. And so whenever there’s a campaign like this, such as this, they always use racism in order to intimidate white America.”

Wow, you know, it’s real goddamn easy to believe a prejudice doesn’t exist if it’s not continually directed at you.

Privilege is invisible to the privileged. Water is wet.
Lakeview Greg commented 2012-01-03 11:36:41 -0500 · Flag
Well, anything Santorum has to say about anyone else’s lifestyle can now be taken with a truckload of salt.
el84 commented 2012-01-03 11:24:41 -0500 · Flag
Hey, Ricky’s back. Are you saying that all liberals are “shrill, hate-filled, insensitive, screeching, blabbermouth liberal(s)”, or that Alan is only typical of the “shrill, hate-filled, insensitive, screeching, blabbermouth” kind of liberal?
Name calling is easy. Thinking takes more effort, “Rick”.- actually make and defend a point. Any wuss can come here and call people names, but Reason tends to be a good buffer. Say something intelligent and prove to me that you can. Let’s debate something. Right now you are not representing the Right very well, because you don’t make an intelligent case for anything.
Joan Tinsley commented 2012-01-03 10:21:19 -0500 · Flag
Taking a dead fetus home to show young impressionable children was bad. Making out that the fetus was a viable baby is worst. I’m sorry that she lost the fetus, but knew what was happening. Keeping it and taking it home!!!!! Outrageous.
Visitor 55 commented 2012-01-03 10:11:29 -0500 · Flag
I have to say, Colmes should not have brought up inSanetorum’s sick actions with the lifeless fetus. But since he did, he should not have apologized. The anti-choicers were in awe of inSanetorum and his spawn playing with the lifeless fetus…which to me is sick. I don’t remember any of them apologizing for admiring the sick act.
Fred Farklestone commented 2012-01-03 09:32:29 -0500 · Flag
Anonymous Music Producer,
You wrote:
“In short, I WILL say that every fact that most of the commentators say on FOX with regard to the FACTS has been pretty square…”
Even when the viewers are given FACTS they’re given the wrong facts!
What planet do you live on? Is must be called Fox World? You obviously don’t live anywhere in the real world of reality!

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/11/poll-says-fox-news-viewers-less-informed-than-those-who-dont-even-follow-the-news
truman commented 2012-01-03 09:30:19 -0500 · Flag
How many death threats will Alan receive from the unhinged pro-life wingnuts of the Fux Nation?
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