Yesterday, in his nightly lesson (Tip of the Day) for his audience who are obviously too stupid to take charge of their own lives, Bill O'Reilly cautioned his viewers about believing what they see on the internet because "there are no standards in cyberspace" where "anything goes." He then used this premise to launch into a personal attack against a Talking Points Memo (TPM) website writer. After accusing Josh Michal Marshall's website of stealing their name from his "Talking Points Memo," O'Reilly launched into a personal attack on one of their writers for stating that O'Reilly "once got into an on-air screaming match with Geraldo Rivera over whether to blame drunk driving deaths on illegal immigration..." In this case, the writer was telling the truth. Bill, not so much.
After Bill read Benjy Sarlin's description of O'Reilly having been involved in a "screaming match" with Rivera, Bill said "it was a complete lie." Bill claimed that "everybody" has seen that "chat" he had which was "about illegal-alien crime violent crime. That’s what it was about.” He again accused the writer, Benjy Sarlin, of lying and said that TPM has refused to "correct the record" because "they answer to nobody." He again urged his viewers to be "skeptical of the net especially when articles are written by a guy named Benjy. The dog is okay."
The discussion that O'Reilly is referring to took place in April 2007. O'Reilly and Rivera talked about a fatal accident, in Virginia, that was caused by an undocumented immigrant. O'Reilly trashed the mayor of Virginia City because, he claimed, she had a "sanctuary city" and as such wasn't reporting the presence of those who were undocumented to federal agents. Rivera took issue with Bill's arguments. The rest is history. Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post described it as a "shoutfest" and a "battle of cable goliaths, Geraldo Rivera vs. Bill O'Reilly, a trash-talking, vein-popping, finger-thrusting shoutfest complete with cries of "Cool your jets!" and "That's bull!"
As you can see from the 2007 video, around 2:20 Bill starts yelling "it makes plenty of difference." When Rivera tried to say something, Bill screamed "he doesn't have a right to be in this country." The discussion went down hill from there as Bill got louder.
Ahem, I think that we need to be skeptical of Fox News especially when Bill O'Reilly accuses somebody of lying because there are no standards on "The Factor" where anything goes. Memo to Bill: you totally got into a screaming match with Geraldo Rivera. It was hardly a "chat." It's right there on that nasty internet! It's not TPM that should be correcting the record because they didn't lie. You did!
My Tip of the Day: Never mind the internet - You "should be cautious" about stuff you see on The Factor because Bill doesn't seem to answer to the truth.
And another memo to Bill: The name of the website, Talking Points Memo, "is a reference to the memo (short list) with the issues (points) discussed by one's side in a debate or used to support a position taken on an issue." It has nothing to do with you so don't flatter yourself. But as you're in denial about your verbal slugfest, it's not surprising that you're delusional, too!
Of course there are standards on The Factor. Anything does not go. There are things you can’t say on that show, like “Barack Obama is not the worst human being who has ever lived.”
The standard on The Factor is not that you must respect objective reality, but that you must respect right-wing dogma. It’s a standard. It just isn’t our standard.
Copy the URL and remove the amp; to get the page to load properly.
Or go to billoreilly.com, go to the show archives section and click on the year 2007. Then click on April and find the April 5th show.
After doing a little looking around, I found the billoreilly.com write-up of this particular Geraldo segment. What’s funny is that back when this encounter took place, even BOR himself did not characterize it as a “chat”. In fact, BOR said that he “HEATEDLY DISPUTED” Geraldo’s contention and that “THE DEBATE ESCALATED INTO A PASSIONATE AND FIERCE ARGUMENT.”
So which BOR are we supposed to believe – the BOR back then who referred to the incident as a “passionate and fierce argument” or the BOR from last night who called the confrontation a “chat”, hmm? Sorry, BOR, but you’ve once again been busted as a very deceptive pundit who has no problem lying/spinning to the folks. This just goes to show that, despite all BOR’s blustering about how folks should be skeptical of the Internet, what they really should be skeptical about is nearly anything that comes out of BOR’s mouth (especially if it deals with his own personal behavior). If this doesn’t totally blow apart BOR’s bogus claim that his show is a supposed “no-spin zone”, then I don’t know what will. LOL!
The below is word-for-word from BOR’s own website (the archives of his April 5, 2007 show). After a short paragraph that set up BOR’s viewpoint, his website says:
“For an opposing view, The Factor was joined by Geraldo Rivera. “You have the story almost exactly wrong,” Rivera declared. “We’re talking about drunk driving, and the only reason this is news on the Factor is because the driver was an illegal alien. This is not an illegal alien story, it’s a drunk driving story.” The Factor heatedly disputed Rivera’s contention. “When you enter this country illegally, you have no right to be here. And this man was caught committing a crime four times. He should have been deported!” The debate escalated into a passionate and fierce argument. “Don’t obscure a tragedy to make a cheap political point,” Rivera exclaimed. “Do you want your viewers to go knocking on people’s doors asking if they’re illegal? To make this about illegal aliens is a sin!” The Factor’s parting shot: “I want the law enforced and you don’t! You want open-border anarchy!” Finally, in the spirit of fair and balanced debate, the two men cordially agreed that they will continue to disagree."
I’m just sayin’ what I wouldn’t hafta say if Mitt what’s-his-ass were headin’ to the White House. Or what I Would hafta say …
Especially when some story is about him.
But he never gets around to condemn the usual wingnut sewers like the Fox Hate Nation, Wing Nut Daily, the FreePers, The Blaze, or his very own, very America lovin’ web site, selling knickknacks made in foreign countries.
On a different aspect, and I don’t expect Billdo to mention this because of his galactic ignorance, the net was developed as a GOVERNMENT project. That’s your “gubbimint don’t create no jobs” wingnuts.
A bit more technical. The old BBSs demonstrated what many of us knew all along, that the telcos were bleeding consumers while providing overpriced crappy service. Some “job creators”
Which brings us back to the eeeeebils of the machines.
Open Source coding? Linux? Android? Java? Thin-SQL?
But I digress. Listen to Billdo shaking his loofah at the screen!
DOOM IS AT YOUR DOORSTEP!
“Don’t you far-left loons know, The Factor doesn’t condone name-calling . . . we only have intelligent discussion on the issues here, with all sides represented and NO SPIN!”
“Fuck it!! We’ll do it live!!!” — Bill O’Reilly
In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
Reporter Jana Winters is in a lot of trouble… and the judge presiding over Holmes’ trial isn’t exactly in a forgiving mood with the rest of the network, especially with their initial response to the legal inquiries.
Very little at this point, but set a Google alert. This could get ugly.