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Adam Carolla & Bill O'Reilly Trash Elizabeth Warren

Posted by Priscilla 0.20pc on November 14, 2012 · Flag

When it comes to misogyny and right wing talking points, Bill O'Reilly and "comedian" Adam Carolla were joined at the hip and separated at birth. Their loathing of women who speak truth to power was reflected in their denigration of Sandra Fluke who dared to speak out against a patriarchal system that just doesn't understand why women can't accept their role as silent brood mares. Last night, during the "Rolling with Carolla" segment, the misogynistic towel snapping was directed towards MA Senator-elect Elizabeth Warren whose reality based comment about a "rigged" system has incurred Carolla's wrath. While O'Reilly was gentler in his treatment of Warren, it was clear that he was mocking her heritage in the same way that her opponent, Senator Scott Brown did. Unlike Carolla and O'Reilly, Massachusetts voters aren't threatened by strong women. She's a winner. They're so not.

In response to O'Reilly's question about why he is upset with Warren, Carolla responded that he's pissed  because of her speech, at the Democratic National Convention, during which she said that system is rigged. He whined that this is "a horrible message" and asked how "a teacher,  a coach, or a counselor could explain that the system is rigged against them." Bill provided validation in his comment that this kind of talk could "sap their motivation to improve themselves and give them an excuse to fail."

To O'Reilly's question of whether Carolla feels that this was the cornerstone of Warren's presentation, Carolla described it as "the cornerstone of the Democratic party with the inference being that they will fix it." He asked why President Obama hasn't "unrigged the system" (how bout a GOP House and Senate filibuster as well as corporate interests that don't want the system unrigged?)

Bill described her as a "classic liberal and Harvard person who believes society is unjust." He snarked "and she is a Native American woman, you know that and she was able to rise up and overcome whatever prejudices are against Native Americans." He wanted to know why she didn't "make that a cornerstone" and say "look what happened to me, I survived the Little Big Horn and here I am...and this shows that our society is fluid and you can rise." (Warren never claimed that she was raised in a Native American environment; but that, according to family history, she has native blood)

Carolla snarked that this is "a form of grandiosity, yes I'm a woman, I'm three quarters Iriqouis...but you guys aren't smart I'm gifted, I've been touched by God., I can overcome this kind of adversity. You are not capable of it."  Bill provided the scripted prompt. "You believe she preached victimization."  Carolla responded that it's "a horrible thing" for politicians to say this "even if it exists on some level, the message should be you just have to work twice as hard."

So according to Adam Carolla, Americans should just ignore the reality of a system that has produced income inequality that is worse than the Ivory Coast, Pakistan, and Ethopia let alone many other industrialized nations?  According to Carolla, civil rights leaders shouldn't have preached about the segregation system that was rigged in favor of the white establishment; but, rather, told African-Americans that they had to "work twice as hard?"  According to Carolla, American workers didn't need to form unions to fight against a system that was rigged against workers because all they needed to do was "work twice as hard." (Wonder if he's a member of a Hollywood union?)  According to Carolla, women should have just worked "twice as hard" rather than fight for equal pay for equal work?

Carolla and O'Reilly didn't provide the full context of Warren's comments. After accurately pointing out how "oil companies guzzle down billions in subsidies" and  "billionaires pay lower tax rates than their secretaries" she said that the folks she spoke to during her campaign, workers and small business owners, "don't resent that someone else makes more money." She added "we're Americans" and "we just don't want the game to be rigged. We've fought to level the playing field before. About a century ago, when corrosive greed threatened our economy and our way of life, the American people came together under the leadership of Teddy Roosevelt and other progressives, to bring our nation back from the brink."

Victimization? How bout patriotic empowerment! Carolla and O'Reilly have a problem with that? Really?


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Visitor 55 commented 2012-11-15 13:13:24 -0500 · Flag
Steve, your latest link still doesn’t debunk that women as a group do not get paid as much as men for the same job. Accounting for all benefits doesn’t mean they get paid the same wages. Most companies offer the same benefits package for males and females, but unfortunately not the same pay for the same job. I appreciate your willingness to research the issue. But as you can see, women are still being jilted.
Steve Lansman commented 2012-11-15 10:44:28 -0500 · Flag
Visitor55 – Good point. That link only provided an overall assessment as to why women make less than men.

Here is a study done on behalf of the UD Dept of Labor. Scroll down to bottom of page 13. It says tat when accounting for all benefits, women on average are at 96.4% of male pay

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf
Visitor 55 commented 2012-11-15 09:49:41 -0500 · Flag
@Steve, it doesn’t debunk the fact that women as a group do not get paid as much as men for the same job. Good try though.
Steve Lansman commented 2012-11-15 09:44:08 -0500 · Flag
Visitor55 – would this link work? It’s a UPenn study that looks into MBA graduates. It shows women, in a high paying field gravitate to more marketing managent positions, as opposed to finance and consulting, which is typically higher paid. Is this insufficient?

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=3058
Visitor 55 commented 2012-11-15 08:34:21 -0500 · Flag
BTW @Steve Larson, your statement that because Oprah, Hillary, Elizabeth Warren, etc “made it” is proof that the system isn’t rigged against women, is just plain stupid. Those ladies are extraordinary exceptions. And besides that, you obviously don’t know Oprah’s story. Ask her about the struggles and discrimination she endured, and the rigged system she had to fight to get where she is now.

I must ask, are you a student of kkklannity and batshitcrazy beckkk? Because they spew this same kind of crap. For example, they believe that because it snows in North Dakota in the winter that’s proof that climate change is a myth. And all the while they ignore the fact that it’s not snowing in the northeastern states in the winter like it’s supposed to. I hope you’re intelligent enough to see the disconnect, Steve.
Visitor 55 commented 2012-11-15 06:59:43 -0500 · Flag
@Steve Larson – The idea that women make 70 cents on the male dollar has been debunked time and time again.

Please provide proof from a CREDIBLE site. Thanks.
Mark Anderson commented 2012-11-15 01:26:37 -0500 · Flag
It’s nice to spend time with losers comments.
sandman1 commented 2012-11-14 22:57:16 -0500 · Flag
Steve Lansman
My easiest solution would probably be to bring the Unions back. For 30+years we’ve had stagnant wages, which would be more acceptable if upper management could say the same thing. Production numbers have increased at a fairly constant rate, just like CEO rates, but the workers(makers) haven’t gained at all, is that fair
Steve Lansman commented 2012-11-14 22:42:30 -0500 · Flag
The idea that women make 70 cents on the male dollar has been debunked time and time again. The reason this number is skewed is that in general women tend to gravitate toward lower paying jobs (i.e admin). When you account for education and experience the salaries are almost identical.

I manage two employees who happen males who make about $80K each. If I could find two females to replace them at 70% of the cost i would do it in a heartbeat!

The reality is that if I want to find a qualified candidate for this positions i will have to pay at least $80K. If i tried to offer a qualified female candidate 70% of $80K she would laugh at me and find an employer who would pay what her value is.

Yes Carolla may be not an expert but why is his point any less valid? Would Marissa Myer come out and say the system is rigged? if so, how was SHE able to succeed in a rigged system?
Christie Mayo commented 2012-11-14 22:19:49 -0500 · Flag
Steve Lansman

Elizabeth Warren is the first woman ever to be elected to the US Senate from Mass.There are now 20 women in the US Senate -several of them elected just this term. note: that is 20%.-one in 5.
Dadeo commented 2012-11-14 20:35:18 -0500 · Flag
This is typical Billdoe entertainment, a hack comedian who throughs dirt at a different Dem every week.This is what a typical viewer of Billdoe calls hard hitting political entertainment. If you watch closely you’ll see Billdoes hand up Corollas back.
mlp ! commented 2012-11-14 18:43:44 -0500 · Flag
Well, although it’s damned nice to see a troll back with us again, I’m surprised that their recent ass-whipping hasn’t made them any smarter.
Although Corolla may not be a political pundit (per se), the point HERE is that by the simple fact that he was asked to spew his idiocy about politics. he was presented as one.
Lakeview Greg commented 2012-11-14 17:51:10 -0500 · Flag
So Ted Nugent was unavailable?

And last I checked, women basically earn 70 cents for every dollar a man earns for the same job, same work. Doesn’t sound like too level a playing field to me. Also, just consider the comments of some of those lovely Republican slime candidates like Akin and Morlock or whatever his name and even Linda McMahon bought into the crap. Level field to a white male, everyone else take your chances.

We voted no on that rot.
Lakeview Greg commented 2012-11-14 17:51:09 -0500 · Flag
So Ted Nugent was unavailable?

And last I checked, women basically earn 70 cents for every dollar a man earns for the same job, same work. Doesn’t sound like too level a playing field to me. Also, just consider the comments of some of those lovely Republican slime candidates like Akin and Morlock or whatever his name and even Linda McMahon bought into the crap. Level field to a white male, everyone else take your chances.

We voted no on that rot.
Steve Lansman commented 2012-11-14 17:41:29 -0500 · Flag
Watcher – Well Carolla is not a ‘pundit’ persay but made enough news to show up on this website. Still, though he is not the most ‘credible critic’, no one has responded to his point. If the system is rigged, how do people like Elizabeth Warren, Hilary, C Rice, Oprah, and countless other women succeed? How is it possible? Oprah is one richest entertainers in the world. Would she say the system is rigged?
Watcher commented 2012-11-14 17:35:18 -0500 · Flag
Oh, I have another question: what political expertise does Dennis Miller and Adam Carolla have? Are their creds equal in strength to the knowledge that Trump has about climate change?

Why are these people commenting on politics? Heck, if their qualifications allow them to chat with Bill, then I should be allowed to offer my opinion on his show. I have two master degrees — okay, not in politics but surely that has to make me as least as smart as Dennis Miller :)
Watcher commented 2012-11-14 17:28:22 -0500 · Flag
Truman asked a good question: who is Adam Carolla? Other than the fact that his last name sounds really close to the name of a car, I have no idea who he is. In fact, what is he? A comic at the level of Dennis Miller?

Ms. Warren is a senator-elect and Adam Carolla? Well who is he?
Steve Lansman commented 2012-11-14 17:16:11 -0500 · Flag
Sandman1 – if you don’t agree with the idea of working harder, what is your proposal? In all seriousness, is it take more from the ‘haves’ and redistribute to the ‘have nots’? is this really a viable long term sultion to lift the ‘have nots’?
Steve Lansman commented 2012-11-14 17:11:59 -0500 · Flag
Author didn’t cite specifics on how the “system is rigged” against women, other than subsidies for oil and lower tax rates for billionaires (this is because most income is taxed at ividend and cap gains tax). Is there one specific example as to how women are not on the same playing field as men?
d d commented 2012-11-14 17:08:53 -0500 · Flag
Not only Carolla and BOR but it was Kilmeade and Gutfeld too (on Kilmeade’s radio show yesterday). Kilmeade called her a liar and Gutfeld called her an idiot. Btw, Gutfeld is pimping his book called “The Joy of Hate” in which he attacks the left for supposedly being whiners who gin up phoney outrage. LOL! Talk about projection!

And, it was announced today that Pelosi will retain her position of House Democratic leader. I suppose we can expect more personal attacks on her from the likes of BOR, Miller and Carolla too. Gawd, it’s like they are all stuck in the 7th grade.
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