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Megyn Kelly's Continued Defense of WTC Cross Includes Smear Of Atheists

Posted by Priscilla 0.20pc on August 18, 2012 · Flag

While Fox News is always willing to defend the Christian cross, they have no problem attacking atheists who seem to have replaced Muslims and "illegals" as the personae most non gratae. So when Fox is able to combine their patented memes of persecuted cross with evil atheists, they've hit the meme jackpot. Last September, Fox had full guns blazing in defense of the placement of the "Ground Zero Cross" (a piece of a surviving steel cross beam, from the WTC, that became an object of Christian worship) at the Ground Zero museum. Martha MacCallum freaked out about this "iconic source of hope." Brian Kilmeade fulminated against the atheists who want the cross removed from the museum. Eric Bolling ranted about atheists who wanted to take away a "symbol of hope." Megyn Kelly did two segments in which she admonished atheists who are "making people upset" about something that "isn't religious" but "part of history." Yesterday, Kelly continued her cross defense in what could only be called a tale of two guests in that Kelly mocked her atheist guest while allowing her Christian guest to defame atheists. But this is straight "news" and not "opinion." Right?

Kelly reported the backstory; i.e. that ground zero museum is "sticking to their symbol" asking a judge to toss out lawsuit which demands that the cross be removed.  (Fact Check - they're only asking for the removal until equal space is given for non-Christians) She showed a photo of the "unforgettable image" of two steel beams shaped like a cross, "an inspiration in the middle of a tragedy." She noted that the cross is part of the museum and then raised her voice as she described how a nasty, bad atheist group has sued the museum over the constitutionality of the cross.

She said that the people at the museum say that it's their job to catalog history. David Silverman, president of American Atheists, responded that this is a public museum. He noted that the cross was consecrated by a Catholic priest. When he said that atheists aren't being represented by the museum, Kelly countered with "you didn't have a symbol" found at Ground Zero. Silverman explained that atheists don't have symbols and that the cross is just one of many cross beams that survived the fall of the buildings and, as such, the existence of this one cross beam "doesn't give Christians the right to usurp the rest of the nation and have a memorial solely to themselves." Kelly wanted to know if it is a memorial or an "artifact." (It's a crossbeam - not King Tut's death mask). Silverman said it is "a piece of scrap metal that has been deified."

When he said that all they want his equal representation and not the removal of the cross, Kelly snarked that "you want a big A."  She narrowed her eyes and stuck out her lower lip when, in a mocking tone, she mentioned that the case is causing distress. When Silverman talked about violation of rights, she pressed him on who is suffering dyspesia. (Fact Check - the "final complaint" of the suit does not mention dyspesia). When he tried to respond, she continued the mocking: "They'll testify in court that they're suffering dyspesia and headaches." Silverman responded that the world trade center will testify that this is a Christian cross so we'll see who is telling the truth.

She became very reverential with the second guest whose cousin was killed on 9-11. Joe Connor is "very angry" about this lawsuit against the "artifact" which "inspired" people. He compared the lawsuit to a request that the USS Arizona be destroyed because people pray at the site. (Kelly didn't say that there is no cross at that memorial) As he told his story, about how, on 9-11 he, his brother and a Jewish woman prayed at St. Patrick's Cathedaral photos of the "cross" were shown. (So that is relevant how?)  Kelly claimed that Silverman's group "wants something to reflect their beliefs that religion is a big hoax." (Way to editorialize and frame the evil atheist meme, Megyn.) After Connor read a George Washington quote about how religion and morality are indispensable, he accused atheists of trying to destroy religion and society with frivolous lawsuits. He continued to blither about atheist destroyers. Megyn had no rebuttals.

The dichotemy between Kelly's treatment of her guests couldn't have been any more stark. The message was clear. Cross, good; atheists bad. But the pièce de résistance was when Kelly, in referencing the atheists desire to have equal representation (which includes other non Christian faith), defined atheism in an incendiary manner. Using Kelly's criteria, I guess we could say that the cross reflects a belief that all other belief systems can suck it - a belief that's constantly being re-affirmed on the "fair & balanced" Fox News.


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James Hedrich commented 2012-09-01 11:13:25 -0400 · Flag
Bogdan I’m neither retarded nor an atheist. I simply do not believe any taxpayer dollars should be used to support or promote any religion – not Islam, not Judaism, not Christianity or any of the hundreds of other religions out there.

This is something our Founding Fathers and the entire founding generation strongly believed as well, ergo the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment. And quite frankly I think they knew much more about good government than you do.
Cheryl Tomlin commented 2012-09-01 10:12:23 -0400 · Flag
Bogdan Lupu: YOU are a perfect example of Homo Stultus! You can’t give up your ignorant belief in fairy tales of an imaginary sky wizard, who, if existed, didn’t bother to save all of the innocent people while deliberately placing a cross in the middle of the disaster!! ROFLMAO&WP!!!
Bogdan Lupu commented 2012-09-01 09:51:00 -0400 · Flag
wow, the poster is obviously a retard like all atheists. no more comments. atheists are bashing Christians all the time. If you don’t accept, if you don’t believe than what seems to be your problem??! Because i don’t get it. Leave the Cross alone. You idiot
James Hedrich commented 2012-08-20 02:06:24 -0400 · Flag
What you’ll never hear on Fox regarding Christianity is that the very first Christian sects, who set up shop between 80 and 100 A.D, commonly called Ebionites, believed Jesus was the Messiah. But they did not believe he was divine, did not believe in atonement, nor the virgin birth nor the resurrection. It wasn’t until the authors of the New Testament got ahold of Christianity that all these gee-whiz magical mystical powers were ascribed to Jesus.

This is some of what the infuential Unitarian and polymath Joseph Priestley referred to as the “corruption” of Christianity in his 1782 book of the same name. Priestley was good friends with Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin and influenced their thinking on religion. John Adams, who was himself a Unitarian, also read Priestley’s works.

Be that as it may over 30% of Americans still believe the New Testament to be word-for-word true. They simply put on their blinders and say “well if one thing isn’t true then none of it is.” Uh-huh.
Brian Hicks commented 2012-08-19 21:43:39 -0400 · Flag
Christianity has morphed into what the powerful christians want it to be because it’s originality isn’t hateful enough for them.

Jesus was a guy who was a peaceful radical non-violent revolutionary who hung around with lepers, hookers, and criminals who never spoke English, was not an American citizen, was anti-capitalism, anti-wealth, anti-public prayer – Yes he was mother fuckers…Matthew 6:5…anti-public prayer – 100% anti-death penalty, but never even slightly anti-gay, never mentioned abortion, never mentioned pre-marital sex, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture once, and was a long haired brown skinned – it was in Revelations Left Behinders – homeless middle eastern Jew.

But that’s if you believe what’s actually in the bible.
Cheryl Tomlin commented 2012-08-19 16:59:21 -0400 · Flag
Why would anybody think that a liberal hates America? I am very liberal, & a very patriotic Vet!! In other words, I LOVE America!!!
Visitor 55 commented 2012-08-19 14:52:04 -0400 · Flag
Joe Green – Moral decline? Our culture? How we’ve ended up here?

Geez Joe. What moral decline? According to whom? Who gets to decide that we’re in a moral decline? And by “our” culture do you mean “your” culture? Ended up where? Again, according to whom?

It seems to me that too many people have been brainwashed to believe that the evangelical brand of christianity is what everyone has to follow in order to be a true christian, or even a good person. That’s bullshit.
James Hedrich commented 2012-08-19 11:15:20 -0400 · Flag
The religious extremists such as Mr. Connor do love to quote George Washington. But somehow they always manage to overlook these gems:

“I beg you be persuaded that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.” George Washington, May 1789.

“There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness. " George Washington, address to Congress, 1790.

What? Promote Darwinism instead of Creationism? Today that would get him branded a liberal who hates America.
Cheryl Tomlin commented 2012-08-19 09:52:29 -0400 · Flag
I still can not help but wonder what symbol they would use if christ had been beheaded, the sword, or the severed head?
mlp ! commented 2012-08-19 08:46:27 -0400 · Flag
Moral decline??
What fucking moral decline??
The only decline in morality is that the crazy religious are finally being shown as the phony bastards that they’ve always been. Religion itself is forcing people away from religion: pedophile priests, Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson,the Family Research Council, children being forced to pray in front of cardboard cut-outs of George W. Bush…..the list of sins BY religion is endless.
And then there’s David Tiffany who fervently believes (hopes??) that Jesus will conquer all. And then feels a duty to come here and tell us all about it. Now, there’s your fucking moral decline.
Joe Green commented 2012-08-19 05:14:56 -0400 · Flag
The moral decline in America did not happen overnight. If it had, there would have been an outcry. It simply would not have happened. Our culture would have rejected the change. But it didn’t happen overnight. It took decades. Each moral concession made was barely noticed with the passage of time. I’ve used this analogy before, but I’ll use it again. A frog dropped in a pot of boiling hot water will jump right out. Put that same frog in a pot of cool water, and heat it to its boiling point, and that same frog will cook. It does not notice the slowly increasing water temperature, and suddenly it’s too late. That, dear friends, is how we’ve ended up here. But we can do something about it. And we must.
Brian Hicks commented 2012-08-19 02:31:23 -0400 · Flag
@ David Tiffany So according to the little blog you provided the link for…which of course was pretty much nothing but preaching…I’m stupid just because I don’t believe in god, it’s a fact that god exists just because you say so, and just because I don’t believe in god that means I hate Jesus and all Christians. That’s the uncompromising intolerance I was looking for.
David Tiffany commented 2012-08-18 22:44:25 -0400 · Flag
No matter how hard you try, you’ll never be able to get Jesus out of your mind. atheistlegitimacy. blogspot. com
patrick tolle commented 2012-08-18 15:37:42 -0400 · Flag
@ Ricky/Tawdry- Megyn Kelly is a 10 bore idiot who,like yourself,would have nothing to say if it weren’t for an otherwise empty cranium pumped full of wingnut blathering points,buzzwords,and fear phrases. Put away your thesaurus long enough to pickup a dictionary and learn what the words “atheist” and “nihilist” actually mean,if that’s not beyond your capacity. I do not think they mean what you think they mean. I’d submit we’re all atheists I just believe in one less deity than you do.
Jeanie Bearden commented 2012-08-18 14:59:47 -0400 · Flag
Megan Kelly is a puppet for FOX Noise. I’m surprised she didn’t mention that she’s an attorney. She drops that turd about every 25 minutes. She is nothing more than Bill O’Reilly in drag.
mlp ! commented 2012-08-18 12:45:12 -0400 · Flag
I really don’t care how many fucking crosses that are displayed, as long as I, my family or anyone else is not required to bend or kneel before them. I haven’t decided whether or not I’m an atheist, but I do strongly believe that man (or woman) in very large part determines the course of his or her life. I believe in the strength and foibles of the human race….not some make-believe deity that conveniently becomes more aligned with the morons that have fucked this country over so badly. If I do believe in god, it’s certainly not the same guy Fox promotes.
Brian M commented 2012-08-18 12:10:40 -0400 · Flag
Nihilists believe in nothing. Atheists just don’t believe in God. There’s a huge, huge difference. Idiot.
Brian Hicks commented 2012-08-18 11:09:28 -0400 · Flag
You’re too stupid to talk Rick so shut up. I am an atheist. I do not believe in god. What I do believe in is the ability to be able to think for yourself and be your own person. That being said I do not hate on others for their beliefs. People can believe what they want. I just don’t like the idea of being led around like a sheep and being told what to believe. I can make up my own mind. I also don’t go around trying to convert others to my religion because I am intolerant of other beliefs and I also do not go around telling people that they will go to hell just because they don’t believe like I do. I had a friend back in high school who was a raging christian and I caught up with him a few years ago and he said he had turned into an atheist (due to a personal experience) and said that he has never felt more free in his life. He said it was like being chained in a dungeon and then finally being set free. I have a lot of christian relatives and friends with christian relatives. I’ve been told numerous time that I’m going to hell, I’ve been called the antichrist, my best friends mom calls me Mr. Atheist, almost all of my christian relatives refuse to even talk to me, my cousin told me to my face at my brother’s wedding that he wishes I would die. All of this just because I dare to have an open mind. As far as you go Rick the only despair atheists bring is to Christians that fudge their huggies just because we dare to believe differently. I suggest you hurry up and get over it Rick. As for nihilism…I believe people make their own purpose in life. Again…if you have a problem with that get over it. I sincerely apologize if I offend anybody on here. I just get sick of the “holier than thou” attitude that people have towards atheists.
Rick Patel commented 2012-08-18 09:08:26 -0400 · Flag
Megyn Kelly is a remarkable reporter who adheres to rigorous rules of journalism. Since atheists believe in nothing, they have the right to remain silent. They have nothing to offer except despair & nihilism.
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