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O'Reilly Whines That British Black List Is “Risky Business”

Reported by Ellen - May 11, 2009 -

Guest blogged by Julie

In case some of you don't know, Britain's Home Secretary, Jackie Smith, has issued a sort of black list of people who can't enter the country, consisting of people who practice “hate speech.” One who made the list was far right-wing hate-monger, Michael Savage – and, I guess since the list didn't include Janeane Garofalo, Keith Olbermann, or Sean Penn (but included one of the right-wing dispensers of red meat to the faithful), Bill O'Reilly seems to suddenly think bias is bad. With video

On Thursday night's (5/7/09) O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly began the segment by throwing out a couple of clips (clips Fox News loves to hate) of a couple of liberals who have folks on Fox spitting nails. The first clip was of Michael Musto, saying of Miss California, “I know for a fact that Carrie Prejean was Harry Prejean, a homophobic man,” followed by the much-aired Janeane Garofalo clip, in which she, when discussing the teabag protests, said, “This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up.” O'Reilly gratuitously threw in a clip of homophobe Fred Phelps who was also on Britain's no-entry list.

“Is that hate speech?” O'Reilly indignantly cried. “If so, should NBC be punished for broadcasting it?”

So, two examples of “hate speech” O'Reilly found were two left-wingers. Well, to help him stay “Fair and Balanced,” I'll help him out with a few more. Here's a few Savage quotes: “90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies” . . . the U.S. Senate is “more vicious and more histrionic than ever, specifically because women have been injected into” it, adherents of Islam would do well to “take your religion and shove it up your behind” because “I'm sick of you.” And Savage picked Martin Luther King Day to call civil rights a “racket” designed to steal “white males' birthright.” These and other comments, in fact, caused several advertisers to drop him.

Admitting that hate speech is “on the rise” around the world, O'Reilly said, “I guess you can say anything vile thing you want (on the internet) . . . while hiding under your bed. Cowards everywhere, using cyberspace to lower the bar on discourse. That in turn has made it easier for fanatics to use vicious rhetoric in public.” Well, yes, Bill, that's perfectly true, demonstrated ably by these gems I found on FoxNation under a headline reading “If Britain Is Banning Haters, Why Not Ban Garofalo?” “You must either be a jerk of color who thinks all people are racist so you get free crap at my expense or you work for ACORN . . . ” . . . “I will start watching when Bauer head butts this SKANK” . . . “Don't pity her. She's a heroin addict” . . . “I think that Garofalo is the inspiration behind 'Ugly Betty'. She is the original model...” . . . “. . . They could ban her just for being ugly but then we might lose all chance of getting rid of her!” Okay, Fox Nation people, you can come out from under the bed now.

And it's not just on Fox websites. Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, a frequent guest on Hannity, has said on the air that most blacks in Tennessee are racists, that President Obama was elected "mostly" by racist blacks and guilty whites and many similar comments at other times.

“. . . where does the list end,” O'Reilly wondered. “The vile attacks on [sic] [freudian slip, Bill?] NBC News on Miss California were hate speech, no question. So were the vicious comments directed toward the tea party demonstrators. Will the British government close down NBC's London bureau?”

O'Reilly continued, “. . . how about the gay protesters who invade churches, can they not go to Great Britain? How about the Minute Men, they protest against illegal aliens . . . protest is sometimes defined as hate but that definition can be wrong . . . the hate speech list is risky business.” (Gotta wonder how risky he'd think it is if Janeane Garofalo made the list.) Well, Bill, you neglected to mention anti-abortion clinic bombers – or doesn't that fit into Fox News' Christian Network agenda? And let's talk about how both you and Sean Hannity covered, just last week, the false statements of Republican Steve King about the Matthew Sheperd hate crimes bills, with King opposing the bill by claiming that pedophiles will be a "protected class” under this legislation. I'm not sure what planet Fox News resides on, but on my planet, anyone who fights like hell – including peddling lies and fear to the faithful followers – to ensure that homosexuals are denied legal protection from torture and murder tops the hate speech list.

Joining O'Reilly was the DC Bureau Chief for the Sunday Times of London, Sarah Baxter (not included in video below). Baxter said that the Home Bureau Secretary, Smith, “wanted a list of Muslim extremists and so-called preachers of hate banned from the UK . . . but then of course that was looking a bit border-line racist so the instruction went out, go and get me some angry white guys and put them on the list as well.”

When O'Reilly asked how she knew this, Smith replied, “Well, I don't know for certain, but I know the kind of politics that are played in London, and believe me, political correctness is all the rage there.” Well, there you go, it's stated clearly on the Fox News pre-interview memo: If you don't have any facts, supposition and guesswork will do just as well.

“Okay,” said O'Reilly, apparently satisfied with her response, “It's an educated guess . . . the first list was put out it was all Muslim extremists, who come and preach in the mosques . . . and then they said . . . we gotta throw on a couple of other 'white guys,' as you put it, who are inflammatory as well.”

O'Reilly continued, “It makes sense, I just don't want to be unfair to Jackie Smith, I don't know the woman . . . The reaction to this in America would be outrage because most Americans, as much as they despise Janeane Garofalo, and the guys who attacked Miss California – and they do despise them, there's no doubt – they don't want them, you know, harmed in any way . . . .” I think it's fair to say that it's primarily those on Fox News and its ilk who “despise” Garofalo and those other “guys who attacked Miss California;” there's no evidence that the majority does.

Immediately following Smith, crucifix-adorned Foxette Laura Ingraham sat with a glassy smile, waiting for her turn to sling some arrows. Didn't take her long.

“Jackie Smith, the Home Secretary . . . has her own problems, Bill. There's some expense report controversy, her husband ordered some, uh, off-color movies and they submitted it for reimbursement . . . the Labour Party is totally on the skids, the conservative party is gaining ground.”

“Britain does not have the same types of First Amendment protections that we have here,” Ingraham said, “ . . . some bureaucrat . . . just saying no, you're good, you're not good, you're good, you're not good, as a way to, what, cover her own rear end for political correctness reasons?”

O'Reilly said that he wouldn't let anyone in Britain who had “a historical resume of violence,” to which Ingraham responded that “Michael Savage apparently, they say violated . . . the 'inter-community understanding of civil discourse' . . . .”

Ingraham continued to argue that all people who make a living on political talk radio are controversial, to which O'Reilly stated, “On this program we have robust debate . . . once in a while we get a little contentious, Barnie Frank, that's a good example . . . .”

Dutiful Ingraham interrupted, “Well, that was your best moment, Bill.”

“What we do here is robust debate . . . but we're not hateful. I won't allow my commentators to be hateful . . . so we don't do that.”

“On the other network, okay, MSNBC, that's what they peddle, that's what they're selling, that's what they have, that's what their product is . . . I would never allow anybody on the program that would call a young woman like Miss California the names that were called on NBC News . . . I don't think that could happen on the Fox News Channel.” I'm sure it just slipped your mind that you referred to media writer and Fox News Watch panelist Neal Gabler as a "rabid dog,” said of New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, "How nuts is this guy?,” said guest Christopher Murray "sounds like a fascist" for saying that that public institutions should not display religious symbols and called former Public Broadcasting System host Bill Moyers a "totalitarian." Students at the University of Connecticut who heckled right-wing pundit Ann Coulter during her campus appearance there earned the title of "far-left Nazis,” you called Sen. Hillary Clinton a "left-wing nut," former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader a "loon," and Moyers a "secular, far-left fanatic." You described former president Jimmy Carter as "clueless" and "a fool,” said of Sen. John Kerry, "He's a sissy,” and referred to Dallas Morning News columnist Macarena Hernandez as "incompetent," and a "Latina ideologue." And that's just on The O'Reilly Factor. Fox News contributor Liz Trotta joked about assassinating President Obama. During the campaign, on Fox & Friends, Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson took off on an Obama-bashing session that caused co-host Brian Kilmeade to walk off the set, and Fox News' Chris Wallace to chastise Steve Doocy – on air.

O'Reilly said, “I don't think Jackie Smith, the Home Secretary, should be taking out a list of talk show hosts . . . .” At least, not this particular talk show host, eh, Bill?

“Bill, Bill, right, but Bill, this . . . they're . . . encouraging vile anti-Western sentiment . . . there are a lot of controversial people out there, and I would submit that some of the things said on MSNBC are just as controversial . . . .”

O'Reilly asked Ingraham, “How should American people . . . champion freedom of speech . . . they may despise Janeane Garofalo and Sean Penn and these people . . . how should we react to the growing rancor and the growing viciousness which is demonstrated the best you could demonstrate by the 21-year-old beauty contestant . . . it's getting worse.”

Ingraham totally agreed, of course, saying, “What we saw on MSNBC last week . . . it was beyond the pale . . . she's not an academic. But to say cutting off organs . . . she's really a man . . . this was not even 6th grade humor, this was embarrassing.”

O'Reilly interjected, “The week before that . . . we had the teabagging escapade . . . .”

Ingraham sneered, “They love saying that word, don't they? . . . here's the outcry, starts with an r and ends with an s, ratings. They can be as hateful as they want, they can get invited to all the fancy parties . . . .”

Hmmm . . . do we see a trend developing here with Ingraham – that green-eyed monster rearing its head because she's not invited to the cool parties? (By the way, don't recall seeing her at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.) Obviously, hateful alone isn't the invitation criteria, or I'd bet my bottom dollar she'd be invited to each and every one.

If you can't view the video below, here's a link.