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O'Reilly and “D-Man” Miller: Opposition to Torture . . . It's a Liberal Thing

Reported by Ellen - April 24, 2009 -

Guest blogged by Julie

On Wednesday's (4/22/09) O'Reilly Factor “Miller Time” segment, O'Reilly introduced Dennis “D-Man” Miller to talk about the “interrogation torture situation.” Apparently, everybody, absolutely everybody, in Bill's circle of friends is “absolutely crazed that Barack Obama may allow a phony unnecessary show trial driven by the far left.” With video.

Frankly, Leahy's whole “truth commission” thing isn't garnering much congressional support – in a shocking revelation, Republicans are against it – but the evidence of “illegal counter-terrorism activity” by the Bush administration is astonishing. Some of the memos released last month by the Department of Justice from the Office of Legal Counsel revealed that Bush lawyers didn't think the Bill of Rights was really, well, important, and didn't even apply to the Defense Department acting on U.S. soil, and Bush's lawyers also figured that old First Amendment wasn't a REAL rule if a President used it during wartime.

Miller opined, “I don't think he'll go ahead with it . . . he starts doing that he loses me, I'm off the reservation, and I think a lot of Americans are.” I'm sure President Obama will take that under advisement, Miller – and I'm just curious . . . would that be the reservation for has-been, can't-be-funny-to-save-my-life comedians?

Miller complained about President Obama throwing his lot in with “lightweights like Patrick Leahy.” Hmm, lightweight – well Democratic Senator Leahy IS the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, so he's got a little juice, but on the other hand, he's also from Vermont, so maybe in O'Reilly's I Hate Vermont land that cancels everything else out.

Miller verbally swaggered, saying that if they “cave in to a punk like him, you might as well be Harpo leaning up against that wall in the movie.” Not being a Harpo fan, I'm a little foggy on the analogy, but maybe somebody got the joke. Somewhere. Ramming it home, Miller said that the President “best not bend on this” because if he goes after President Bush in a “show trial” he's lost half of America. I had no idea President Obama's star had fallen so far as to lose both Miller and the torture-loving half of America. The fact is, a majority of Americans oppose torture, and, as of February (before these new memos even surfaced), about two-thirds of America approved of an investigation into Bush and his fellow torture-lovers.

O'Reilly commented on Fox News contributor Ellis Henican (Just prior to this segment, O'Reilly and Henican had a dust-up over torture), saying he's a “good guy . . . confirmed left-winger.”

“Very big Democrats told us,” O'Reilly said importantly, “that Obama's not gonna do this.” O'Reilly blamed the wild-eyed liberals, of course, saying that George Soros is pushing the investigation “big-time” (which Soros, along with about 20 other organizations, is in fact encouraging) and MoveOn has an ad out – “let's hang all the Bush people.”

O'Reilly claimed that President Obama's “presidency is over” if he throws in with Soros. Did he really say that? Hey, I know the Cheney-brand Republicans don't care about stuff like Executive Branch and Judicial Branch and who does what, but is O'Reilly forgetting that President Obama has said that this is Attorney General Eric Holder's call?

Mused Miller, “Torture's a subjective thing . . . I happen to view it [waterboarding] as the first shower some of these slugs in Gitmo have had in . . . years . . . .” Oh, he's a funster, Dennis is. Torture is subjective, hmmm. Let's take the Catholic definition, for one: “'Torture' is defined by paragraph 2297 of The Catechism of the Catholic Church as "the use of physical or moral violence to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred.” And this, from The U.N. Convention Against Torture: “For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.” Those don't really sound subjective to me. The upshot is, you can't physically hurt people or terrorize people – which includes waterboarding and putting bugs in cells – to get a confession or punish someone and not call it torture. For the cheap seats, that includes, you know, public officials like former President Bush and his lawyers

O'Reilly gravely informed the viewers, “I will say this about the president . . . he's made an enormous mistake letting it go on this long . . . (it) should have been put to bed a long time ago.” What the . . . how long ago? The guy's been in office, what, three months, and the really meaty stuff just came up within the last week – how swiftly should the President make a decision of this magnitude, before he was even sworn in?

The rest of Miller Time was all drivel, the “heartbreaking” saga of Miss California losing the Miss USA title because she backs traditional marriage. Don't worry, honey, you're all right in Fox News' books, anyway.

Miller summed the Miss USA pageant up in a sensitive way, showing himself to be someone so obviously secure in his manhood he doesn't find it necessary to demean women: “I like a chick in a bikini shooting an arrow . . . .”

If you can't view the video below, here's a link.