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Fox & Friends, Doocy Lies About Flag Folding Change

Reported by Donna - October 31, 2007 -

Today on Fox and Friends they were in an uproar about something changing in the U.S. flag folding for burial ceremonies. Of course they had Col. David Hunt (Ret), a very outspoken, favorite guest to talk about it. Hunt was, of course, having a hissy fit.

They said they were upset about the 11th statement being taken out which coincides with the 11th fold. But Doocy actually said something at the top of the second hour that was an out and out lie. He said the government was taking the word God out of the document when it still remains in the 12th and 13th fold.

The part that is being removed is on the 11th fold, where it says::

The eleventh fold, in the eyes of a Hebrew citizen, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon, and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

But if you read all the sayings for the 13 folds of the fllag it says God in two of them.

Doocy said there was some crazy determination from the Veterans Administration after somebody out in California complained about a few words used about God in a burial service. Doocy deliberately lied when he said around 7:04, when they were discussing the document, that the government said, "OK you can't say anything about God.
In fact the 12th and 13th (final fold) say:

The twelfth fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, "In God we Trust."

Col Hunt said they were asses and the next thing that's going to happen is the family is going to have to dig their own hole and rent a casket.

Later on in the segment Doocy said Christians are the majority, why should we be penalized?

They also had another guest on from the American Legion, Rees Lloyd who was also upset at the new changes.

The 11 fold can still be read if requested by the family and they provide the person to say it.

Judge Andrew Napolitano even said that military burials will be silent during the flag ceremony unless the family makes a special request for a citation to be read. (Comment: Like I said, this only affects the 11th fold statement and it can still be requested. The burial ceremonies will not be silent)

Doocy said he hadn't received one email that said this should be changed.

Comments: Of course they're not going to be any one who would email them that they wanted the change the way it was presented by Fox. They had no fair and balanced reporting - all of them felt the same way about the issue. They read emails that said that people were tired of God being taken out of their lives. And Doocy lied when he said that God wouldn't be mentioned at all. What's surprising is he was reading from the flag folding document and still didn't pick up on folds 12 and 13.

This is a case of making a big deal over nothing. Nothing is banned, it can still be said through a volunteer. Plus, I would say that we have more important things to worry about than this. How about worrying about the soldiers getting killed in the war of choice, Iraq? They are much more important than one change (that can still be requested) the flag ceremony.