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What Took Them So Long?: Fox Blames Clinton for Enron Mess

Reported by Melanie - May 27, 2006

Surprise, surprise! One day after the verdicts were rendered in the Ken Lay/Jeff Skilling trial, Fox News blamed Bill Clinton for the Enron mess, and for the scandals at Tyco, Adelphia, and WorldCom too, for that matter. Here's video of the segment that aired on Your World w/Neil Cavuto yesterday (May 26, 2006). If you have the time, I urge you to watch it. The spin is unbelieveable.

Here are two of my favorite quotes:

Charles Payne:

There was nothing going on in the economy [between 2001 and 2003] because we've been cleaning it up.

And Neil Cavuto:

The corruption was running amuck in those years when he was in office.
Comments

Can't find the darn thing. What is its title and subject heading?

Posted by: theroachman at May 27, 2006 11:35 AM

theroachman -

Click on the link I provided and wait. After the video loads, the segment will appear on screen after the Ameritrade ad runs.

Posted by: Melanie at May 27, 2006 12:19 PM

"The guy at the top is having fun with cigars, nobody else is watching the store!"

Haha that's great!

Posted by: Ranger Bob at May 27, 2006 12:21 PM

Rebecca Gomez is hot!!!

Posted by: Steve at May 27, 2006 12:33 PM

Let me get this straight. All those companies run by REPUBLICAN CEOs were corrupt because of Clinton.

Given that republicans couldn't stand anything Clinton stood for, I don't understand how they can sit there and blame their own behavior on him.

Posted by: Didi at May 27, 2006 01:00 PM

Bush lowered taxes, for that alone he deserves another 10 years on office.

Posted by: SeanC at May 27, 2006 01:09 PM

Bush deserves 10 years in prison. If not longer.

Posted by: john t at May 27, 2006 01:12 PM

Bush deserves 10 years in prison. If not longer.

Posted by: john t at May 27, 2006 01:12 PM

I guess taxes don't matter to people on welfare.

Posted by: SeanC at May 27, 2006 01:14 PM

Bush's massive ignorance and lack of leadership has added ~$15 to each barrel of oil - check the LA TIMES' story that shows how.

Lower taxes while running the biggest spending spree in our history?
For that, you think GWB deserves more time in office?

Barnum was right, apparently.

LarryMo

Posted by: larrymo at May 27, 2006 01:18 PM

HAHAHA, Kenny Boy is going to jail!

Posted by: Steve at May 27, 2006 01:32 PM

I guess taxes don't matter to people on welfare.

Posted by: SeanC at May 27, 2006 01:14 PM
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I wouldn't know if they do or not.

So why don't you tell me.

Posted by: john t at May 27, 2006 01:42 PM


Yes, Blame Clinton, it's easier than thinking.

Posted by: Dr. Matt at May 27, 2006 01:45 PM

Let me get this straight. All those companies run by REPUBLICAN CEOs were corrupt because of Clinton.

Given that republicans couldn't stand anything Clinton stood for, I don't understand how they can sit there and blame their own behavior on him.

Posted by: Didi at May 27, 2006 01:00 PM
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If I used the same reasoning as most on this site - it happened on Clinton's watch so he is responsible!

Posted by: Ranger Bob at May 27, 2006 01:52 PM

God this is a great site, I wanna ask you guys something. How do u think the guys at Enron got away with this stuff? DO you really think the Clinton administration didn't know? You have got to be kidding me. Clinton spent tons and tons of money, yet he still managed to leave a surplus in the treasury. That to me screams bribes. Lay and all the rest bribed the Clinton administration to look the other way while he bilked millions of people out of thier hard earned retirement money, and guess where it ended up. That's right the US treasury. There is no way they could of pulled that fraud off without the US government lookin the other way. So much for helping the people huh?

Posted by: Tom at May 27, 2006 02:11 PM

Tom, take another sip of Kool-Aide and put on another layer of foil.

Posted by: Dr. Matt at May 27, 2006 02:15 PM

Boy, let the conspiracies flow.

Posted by: john t at May 27, 2006 02:17 PM

Using the perverse "logic" of conspiracies theories of forest ranger and Tom: Guess who was the governor of Texas while Enron was breaking the law?

Posted by: Dr. Matt at May 27, 2006 02:19 PM

Clinton spent tons and tons of money, yet he still managed to leave a surplus in the treasury. That to me screams bribes.
Posted by: Tom at May 27, 2006 02:11 PM
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I see, so even though Clinton had the MSM so far up his ass he couldn't get away with a illicit BLOW JOB, you feel he got away with a massive bribery scheme, and nobody anywhere has EVER been able to uncover it? Oookay Tommy. Double up on the meds, dude.

Posted by: Scairp at May 27, 2006 02:20 PM

Posted by: Ranger Bob at May 27, 2006 01:52 PM
and Posted by: Tom at May 27, 2006 02:11 PM


Can you prove that Ranger Bob or Tom? By your argument then shouldn't have Ken Lay gave his corporate jet to the Gore campaign to use rather than Bush? Come on if Clinton was helping Ken Lay with his illegal activity then one could easily assume that Gore was in on the gig.

Posted by: theroachman at May 27, 2006 02:21 PM

Worth of repost:

Blame Clinton, it's easier than thinking.

Posted by: Dr. Matt at May 27, 2006 02:22 PM

Never admit mistakes

Its a sign of weekness

The repuke slogan

Posted by: theroachman at May 27, 2006 02:24 PM

Boy, you sure got some intelligent discourse goin' on at this here web site. :D

Posted by: wheehaw at May 27, 2006 02:28 PM

Posted by: wheehaw at May 27, 2006 02:28 PM

Care to explain?

Posted by: theroachman at May 27, 2006 02:29 PM

Ranger Bobby & Tommy;
You guys should take your act on the road , Your hillaryious.

Posted by: beerrunr at May 27, 2006 02:31 PM

Hey Ranger Bob,did you get tossed from the "power Rangers'?

Posted by: Lu Loo at May 27, 2006 02:47 PM

Hey Ranger Bob,since you got tossed from the "Power Rangers",are you finding it hard to make living? Being a one night-stand comedian,with the dry ,inane, drivel that you call comedy is a losing prospect,maybe you could get a job being a "Gunshot Listener' for Rep. Saxon(NJ)!

Posted by: Lu Loo at May 27, 2006 02:55 PM

Clinton? That's BS every one knows it was Jimmy Carter :)

Posted by: stevo at May 27, 2006 02:56 PM

Gotta love that logic.
Surplus = coruption.
Massive dept = honest goverment.
That kind of logic screams moronic idiot to me.
Eric

p.s. I guess you should put you country into a few trillian dollars more dept to show how honest the republicans are.

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 02:57 PM

Posted by: Tom at May 27, 2006 02:11 PM
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I guess you're forgetting that Mr. Bush was governor of that 'der Texas state in the late 90's. Oh, you also forgot that Enron was Bush's BIGGEST LIFETIME CONTRIBUTOR to his political campaigns until 2004, three years after it's collapse it was still Bush's BIGGEST LIFETIME CONTRIBUTOR. UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!

Enron has also provided Mr. Bush with luxury jets. George W. Bush goes back a long way with his good 'ole Kenny Boy (George W. gave him that nickname.)


Blaming this on Clinton is simply nonsense, but I'm really not suprised to hear this from Fox "the most misinforming name in news"

Posted by: Spiritualized at May 27, 2006 03:00 PM

"The guy at the top is having fun with cigars, nobody else is watching the store!"
I didn't know bush smoked cigars.
But what with the no WMD in Irac and the no ties to 911 and the Katrina responce we all know nobodys watching the store.
Eric

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 03:04 PM

The Republican congressional majorities during Clinton's presidency, lead by Dick Armey (R-TEX) in the House and Phil Gramm (R-TEX) in the Senate rigged so many SEC and accounting rules that allowed the things at Enron to happen. They took outrageous, greedy advantage of the hyper economy. It was only a matter of time before their house of cards came down. No one would have known what they had done until it was over.
Blaming Clinton is not only ignorant it's cowardly.

Posted by: No New Texas at May 27, 2006 03:06 PM

"Blaming Clinton is not only ignorant it's cowardly."
Well that's republicans in a nutshell. Ignorant and cowards.
Eric

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 03:19 PM

Way too funny. It's something like "pin the tail on the donkey" with these pathetic spin-dogs. It's either Clinton's fault, Carter's fault, Dean's fault, etc. How about it was ENRON'S fault? The jackasses were tried and convicted. It IS possible to pull off a huge white collar crime without the White House knowing about it. At least, I think minus the fairy tale schemes, it is.
It just bothers me that these idiots on Fox, the "hot" plastic surgeon patient, the "token black rambling dude" and the other two nobodies were just pawns in Cavuto's circus. He needs to get a life. That's what they do...SPIN!! Their job is to deflect any blame or responsibility from this failing administration onto somebody, ANYBODY else they can find. Clinton is their dart board. He will ALWAYS be their dart board...or their "donkey".
No surprises here at all. The only surprise is that a few dimwits on this site actually eat that crap up. Not sure if it has anything to do with "cool-aid" or drugs, but it definitely has a lot to do with gullibility and ignorance.

Posted by: ITryToBe at May 27, 2006 03:47 PM

Both parties fund-raise however they can.Clinton's price for a night in the Lincoln Bedroom was $25,000,so what?
Enron didn't get somebody to alter the SEC rules,they did that themselves.It's called cheating when you capitalize expenses (WorldCom) or use a loose interpretation of GAAP to call asset deals 3rd party financings and thus keep your share of the debt off-balance sheet (Enron). Although if you go read the FERC documents relating to the California energy crisis,the state caused most of it by capping consumer costs in a desperate vote pandering move that backfired.
Besides,Enron or any of a long long line of frauds going back to the Dutch Tulip scandal in the 1600s.Fraud and the concomitant lure of easy money knows no political party.It's as silly to blame Enron on Clinton as the oil crisis on Bush. They may have helped but it's more of a relationship than causality. Well,that's what I think,anyway.

Posted by: TJM at May 27, 2006 04:03 PM

TJM, what can you tell me about the Lincoln Bedroom,you know ,the history of it?

Posted by: Frank at May 27, 2006 04:09 PM

I would still think that bush had a lot more to do with enron then Clinton. After all he was the govenor and enron was his and still is his biggest contributor. Funny that bush says he "hardly" knew lay. At this rate bush will end up not haveing known all his republican friends soon.
What did bush know about the happenings in texas when he was govenor, looks like not too much.
Eric

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 04:10 PM

It is beyond logic.
Nothing more than the neo-cons are past the desperation stage.
Wow, its so bad its almost not even funny.
Let FNC keep this up, it is at thier own peril.
Let them drown.

Posted by: Alex at May 27, 2006 04:17 PM

Clinton spent tons and tons of money, yet he still managed to leave a surplus in the treasury. That to me screams bribes.
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That's why the deficit now is so huge, because Bush admin is so honest and doesn't take bribes.

And Clinton admin, though deceitful enough to take bribes, were noble enough to funnel them back into the treasury (somehow).

That is really damn funny.

Posted by: yeah_right at May 27, 2006 04:24 PM

Only that it was a perk for large dollar contributors during the Clinton presidency. Breakfast was sometimes with one of them.The guy I knew who went,had breakfast (along with a fair number of others) at a HRC meeting the following morning.

Posted by: TJM at May 27, 2006 04:24 PM

From the smoking gun

http://tinyurl.com/pm8yu


The Bush-Lay Letters
Correspondence suggests chummy President-Enron boss relationship

Posted by: theroachman at May 27, 2006 04:31 PM

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t's as silly to blame Enron on Clinton as the oil crisis on Bush. T
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Yet, dubyah is CLOSELY tied to both big oil and Enron.

Posted by: Dr. Matt at May 27, 2006 04:46 PM

Posted by: yeah_right at May 27, 2006 04:24 PM

Yupp you juat can't make this stuff up. Republican suporters really have to be the most moronic idiots in the univerce.
Eric

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 04:46 PM

Anyone else notice that bush's famous loyalty seems to more directed at cheney's friends then bush's own?
Eric

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 04:49 PM

"Blaming Clinton is not only ignorant it's cowardly."
Well that's republicans in a nutshell. Ignorant and cowards.
Eric
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I thought that's what they said about French Canadians?

Posted by: Ranger Bob at May 27, 2006 04:53 PM

Tom,

Yes, Clinton spent and spent and still had money left over because, first of all, there was money coming in from tax revenue. See, back then, we didn't have an administration that pushed the idea that the people didn't have enough of their own money. Besides that, we had an economy that was growing like gangbusters and that boosts your revenues even if you reduce taxes or leave them as they are.

Also, Clinton handled foreign affairs in a multi-lateral, coalition fashion. The Bush "go-it-alone," dictate to the world strategy is awfully expensive on every level.

So, your theory is that Clinton took bribes and then used them to create billion-dollar surpluses. Who was bribing him with that kind of cash? You're suggesting that even though Ken Lay is documented to have practically built Bush's political career, providing money, jets, and any other means of support that he could, that all this time it was CLINTON who was his primary benefactor? I'll grant you that Clinton's involvement with the DLC may have put him in the same place as Lay a time or two, but Lay has been the Bush's boy for decades. The suggestion of an untoward relationship with Clinton is borderline pathological.

Posted by: Pastor Bill at May 27, 2006 05:02 PM

"It had become usual to give Napoleon the credit for every successful achievement and every stroke of good fortune. You would often hear one hen remark to another, 'Under the guidance of our Leader, Comrade Napoleon, I have laid five eggs in six days'; or two cows, enjoying a drink at the pool, would exclaim, 'Thanks to the leadership of Comrade Napoleon, how excellent this water tastes!'"

Squealer uses several clever techniques to persuade the other animals to accept that the pigs will keep all the apples and milk. He tells the animals that he hopes they don't think the pigs are doing this to be selfish - implying that if they do think this, they are being foolish. He tells them that many of the pigs in fact dislike milk and apples - he says he dislikes them himself - and take them only to stay healthy for the sake of the other animals. He tells them it is scientifically proven that milk and apples contain substances absolutely necessary to the health of a pig. He says that because the pigs are brainworkers and do all the management, they have a duty to stay as alert and healthy as they possibly can. He plays off the animals' fears by telling them that if the pigs fail in their duty, Jones will come back. All the animals are very afraid of Jones coming back, and so if the only way to avoid it is to give the pigs all the milk and apples, they will agree to this.

When the windmill blows down in a gale, Napoleon prevents the pigs from looking stupid for building the walls too thin. He claims that Snowball crept in overnight and broke the windmill apart. He also has a pig leave footprints in the grass leading to the hedge, so that he can 'discover' them in front of the animals, sniff them and announce that they are Snowball's. This lends credibility to his story.

As Napoleon was deceiving the neighboring farmers he was also tricking his own animals. The scapegoat was again Snowball. "Whenever anything went wrong it became usual to attribute it to Snowball." In fact many of the claims begin to sound ridiculous to the objective mind. Of course, Squealer's mission is to keep everything subjective in the minds of the animals.

Posted by: il128 at May 27, 2006 05:09 PM

Like the French Candians that knew there were no WMD bob?, or are you talking about the ones that are too busy with Montreal women as you all saw in last months Playboy magazine?
Yupp them French Canadians were just so moronic they knew there were no WMD unlike you.
Eric
p.s. bob, are you and bush still looking for the WMD under his desk?

Posted by: Eric of Montreal at May 27, 2006 05:41 PM

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