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Melanie,

I don't think Cindy Sheehan should go onto O'Reilly after what he said about her. You would think if he really wanted the interview, he would have kept his mouth shut until he had her on the show.

By the way, you might want to check your link text above, Representative Jan Schakowski (D-IL) is a democrat.

Posted by: BobM at August 10, 2005 03:34 PM

Now we are going to have to watch Bill crucify her...in his arrogant mind, there is no greater sin than "not coming on the Factor". He is going to slam her for "flip flopping", and accuse her of only doing left wing media, rather than answer the questions from "a fair media outlet" like FNC, and a "no spin" show like O'Reilly's....

It is now 3:42 EST, I Guarantee that this is what he will say, and sadly, because so many people watch him, this is what they will hear.

AAR

Posted by: adamannapolis at August 10, 2005 03:42 PM

BobM: I agree that she shouldn't go on.

Thank you for pointing out my "R" typo. I know Schakowski is a Democrat...don't know how that "R" got in there.

Posted by: Melanie at August 10, 2005 03:42 PM

O'Reilly's riff on Sheehan is up at
http://www.bareknucklepolitics.com/main.html

Posted by: Shawn Wasson at August 10, 2005 03:43 PM

If Bush was a man, nay, if Bush was half a man, he would walk out to where Cindy is and talk to her. Even if he thinks she might say aggressive/challenging things that may embarrass him, or leave him searching for a response in front of cameras......Be a man. You gave the order. Her son is dead. Go out there and face her.

Posted by: Wes at August 10, 2005 03:44 PM

Representative Jan Schakowski (D-IL) was on the call and sent Sheehan her love and support. Schakowski said if anyone wonders what noble cause Casey Sheehan died for, the noble cause was to help Cindy Sheehan "end this war." I think Schakowski is probably right.

Reported by: Melanie
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Finally, I've been asking the freepers all morning what was this 'noble cause' that the president was talking about.

It took a Congresswoman to give me the answer.

Thanks,

Scarlet, PbD

Posted by: Scarlet, PbD at August 10, 2005 03:45 PM

She ain't asking for you to go to her. She came to you. She's not asking for a pow-wow in the Whitehouse. She's right out there, outside your ranch fence, George. BE A MAN.

Posted by: Wes at August 10, 2005 03:48 PM

Not only is he an obscenity to the truth and humanity - he's just plain obscene - especially when it comes to sexually harrassing young female employees while he's in the shower performing a homosexual act upon himself.

Now, that's obscene!

He has no moral authority anymore. He certainly doesn't have the right to have a mother who's gone through the pain of losing her son in a war concocted by lies on his show.

You're a loser, Mr. Falafel - Good luck, Cindy Sheehan!

Scarlet, PbD

Posted by: Scarlet, PbD at August 10, 2005 03:50 PM

At the very least, if you can't muster up the backbone yourself, you could send Laura out to express a few moments of sympathy.

Posted by: Wes at August 10, 2005 04:00 PM

Not to get off topic, but his butt plugging isn't really a "homosexual act".

I can not begin to fathom why 2.5 million people watch him nightly...

They can't all be complete idiots...

Well, then again, I watch him just so I can make fun of him...

AAR

Posted by: adamannapolis at August 10, 2005 04:04 PM

O'Reilly is a god damn liar, but he's willing to face her face to face. Which presently puts him one rung on the ladder above Bush.

Posted by: Wes at August 10, 2005 04:05 PM

What a load of shi* O"really is. If this is so "IMPORTANT" to him to deparage this woman he should get his groping fat ass on a plane like Gretta and go DOWN THERE and interview her in her envoirment and on her terms. If Iam not mistaken he threw down the Gauntlet.

Yeah that will happen.

Posted by: edfromned at August 10, 2005 04:07 PM

Sheehan Speaks For A Majority
TomPaine.com, August 10, 2005

...those of us who believe a serious fraud was perpetrated on this country could ask for no better interrogator than Cindy Sheehan, whose own understanding of the reasons for war has evolved in light of what she's learned about the war. Recently, she answered eloquently a question about the RIGHT-WING MEDIA'S OBSESSION with her past statements:

"I think it's really ironic that they're so willing to assiduously scrutinize the mother of a war hero, a grieving mother, a mother filled with shock and grief, but they WON'T EVEN SCRUTINIZE A PRESIDENT president when he says Saddam has weapons of mass destruction, when everybody else is saying, 'No, he doesn't.' If the mainstream media and the right-wing media hadn't been such propaganda tools for Washington, D.C., my son might still be alive."

Sheehan's detractors seek to DEPICT HER AS A "PATSY" being manipulated by anti-war liberals. By accusing her of somehow impeaching herself a year ago with kind comments about the president, they fuel the publicity surrounding her protest. And in doing so, they may instead be drawing much-deserved attention to the PRESIDENT'S OWN CONTRADICTIONS ON IRAQ...

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050810/sheehan_speaks_for_a_majority.php

Posted by: -R at August 10, 2005 04:09 PM

Bill's reaction, from the comfort of his studio, is indeed predictable. His bruised ego will be the "talking point" du jour (though he won't put it in those terms... it'll be a rehash of the disgusting Malkin appearance, I imagine).

He will trot out the old "doesn't-have-the-courage-to-appear" canard, despite Sheehan's conspicuous bravery.

Hey, Bill: if the Sheehan story is so worth your pontifications, why not take a camera out to Crawford and interview Ms. Sheehan face-to-face? Oh, never mind: that what a *journalist* would do.

Posted by: mondojohnson at August 10, 2005 04:11 PM

I wish she'd go on Bills show and beat the living shit out of him. Now THAT would be some quality television.

Posted by: varicose at August 10, 2005 04:15 PM

Here is a partial transcript of what he said:

O'REILLY: So I mean, I think Mrs. Sheehan bears some responsibility for this, and also for the responsibility of other American families who have lost sons and daughters in Iraq, who feel that this kind of behavior borders on treasonous.

I have the full transcript here:

http://69.73.163.60/oreillysucks/viewtopic.php?t=2447

O'Reilly is scum.

Posted by: Stewert at August 10, 2005 04:16 PM

Scum can be removed with some bleach and a little scrubbing. O'Leilly is a mutating parasitic virus

Posted by: Dr. Matt at August 10, 2005 04:25 PM

The only problem is by not going on the show - Sheehan is giving O'Reilly more ammunition. His "talking points" are going to be PAINFUL tonight. Uhhhh...

Posted by: Lester at August 10, 2005 04:29 PM

Not to get off topic, but his butt plugging isn't really a "homosexual act".

Posted by: adamannapolis at August 10, 2005 04:04 PM
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It is when the manly man, Falafel does it. Plus, the freepers think it is unmanly.

Scarlet, PbD

Posted by: Scarlet, PbD at August 10, 2005 04:30 PM

MICHELLE MALKIN, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Well, I do want to emphasize what you said, Bill, which is that losing a child in any situation, whether it's in a war, from an accident or disease, is one of the most painful of human experiences. And Mrs. Sheehan deserves compassion and sympathy. And apparently, according to the accounts from last year when President Bush
met with her, that's exactly what she got.
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No, Malkin, you PIG, this is what she got, 'who are you again, mom?' She didn't lose a SHOE, she lost a SON . .
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What did the President say to you during that first meeting?

He first got there, he walked in and said, "So who are were honoring here?" He didn't even know Casey's name, he didn't, nobody could have whispered to him, "Mr. President, this is the Sheehan family, their son Casey was killed in Iraq." We thought that was pretty disrespectful to not even know Casey's name, and to walk in and say, "So who are we honorin' here?" Like, "Let's get on with it, let's get somebody honored here."

So anyway, he went up to my oldest daughter, I keep calling her my oldest daughter but she's actually my oldest child now, and he said, "So who are you to the loved one?" And Carly goes, "Casey was my brother." And George Bush says, "I wish I could bring your loved one back, to fill the hole in your heart." And Carly said, "Yeah, so do we." And Bush said, "I'm sure you do," and he gave her a dirty look and turned away from her.

Posted by: Liz PbD at August 10, 2005 04:36 PM

Liz- I hadn't heard that. It make me sick. I can just see the look on his face, too........I'm ill. Compassion is a 4-letter word to these people. I'm shocked.

mw

Posted by: militaryWife, PbD at August 10, 2005 04:47 PM

Bush doesn't answer anyone's questions.If he finally does talk to Cindy great, but I won't be satisfied until this whole right wing cabal has been overthrown.I start to wonder if this Cindy Sheehan story isn't being orchestrated by Rove just to make Bush look kind and benevolent if he does talk to her.It's terrible to have to be suspect of everything but all I've seen is lies and deception from this administration. By the way where is that Rove story?

Posted by: steve blackwelder at August 10, 2005 04:56 PM

Ive been reading this site for about a month and Ive seen a lot of descriptions of bill oreilly and name calling but i think that cindy sheehans statement about oreilly is the best

Posted by: mikeatuva at August 10, 2005 05:02 PM

Faux never fails to disappoint me; whenever I think they can't possibly sink any lower, something like this comes along. Actually, I'm glad Cindy won't be on this idiot's show tonight. I hate to imagine what he'd say to her face. She shouldn't dignify his fourth rate crapshow with her presence.

Posted by: Blondie at August 10, 2005 05:04 PM

Cindy Sheehan is my hero.

I'm a graphic designer, and I'm doing all I can to help her. Please join in by supporting her with a simple task - mail a postcard to the president.

2764 *Yellow Ribbon Peace Sign Postcards* have already been mailed to Cindy, care of George Bush in Crawford.

You can download and print the free postcard, it's even addressed for you already, at: http://www.eileenburke.org

Eileen

Posted by: Eileen at August 10, 2005 05:13 PM

Rove? Rove ? Karl? Where are you Trud blossom?

Posted by: edfromned at August 10, 2005 05:13 PM

Oh great! They just announced that they'll be having a TWO HOUR SPECIAL on missing white girl. Be still my heart

Posted by: edfromned at August 10, 2005 05:15 PM

What's worse than a two hour special on Aruba girl?

Clear Channel is sponsoring an ANTI-Cindy Barbeque Rally" across the street from Cindy's camp on Saturday; and to topit off, they have found military to show up and say that they would be ashamed if their mother behaved that way. There will be free beer, believe it or not.

It's disgusting.

Eileen in VT

Posted by: Eileen at August 10, 2005 05:19 PM

Arthur Silber defends Cindy Sheehan and explains why the right is attacking her:
http://coldfury.com/reason/?p=850

I haven’t specifically addressed the frenzied and mounting attacks on Cindy Sheehan up to this point, primarily for one reason: those attacks are as sickening as they were predictable. Let me note at the outset that, in one very limited sense, Cindy Sheehan certainly was on notice that this would be her fate if she chose to become a visible symbol of opposition to the disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq. However, this acknowledgement should not be taken to mean that any of the current attacks on her are deserved or just. They are neither. Moreover, they are deeply uncivilized—and for the most part, not remotely decent.

Before getting to my more specific point, some general background is required. Any observant American knows that, beginning almost immediately after 9/11, any disagreement with Bush or his foreign policy—any disagreement at all, offered on the basis of any one of numerous possible grounds, and even if supported by massive amounts of evidence—has been characterized as treasonous. This has been an explicit and frequent part of the demonization campaign engaged in by Bush and his supporters—and the vilification of Mrs. Sheehan is only the latest example of the kind of indecent and nauseating filth that the idolaters of American Empire are now prepared to engage in.

In the blogosphere, these kinds of tactics have been carried to still more insidious and more threatening levels. Strong critics of Bush’s “War on Terror” are not antiwar: they are “on the other side.” People who use and repeat such idiotic phrases seek to avoid their clear meaning: they are accusing many of Bush’s critics of treason. They ought to state it openly, so everyone knows exactly what the nature of the accusation is—and so that we may all appreciate how broad a swath of the American public they include in such judgments.

And that is the ultimate meaning of all such statements from the administration and its rabid supporters: passionate, meaningful, serious criticism of U.S. foreign policy is treason—it undermines our “national will,” it weakens us in a time of great peril, and it “give[s] ammunition to America’s enemies.”

In this cultural setting, it was inevitable that Cindy Sheehan would become a major target of the Bush supporters. And because her cause is gaining so much attention—and most importantly, because it is gaining so much support from the American public—she must be destroyed.

Obviously, the truly obscene and unforgivable aspect of the attacks on Mrs. Sheehan is the fact that her oldest son was killed in a completely unnecessary war—a war which has now killed almost 2,000 Americans, has permanently maimed many additional thousands of Americans, and has killed and maimed deliberately uncounted tens of thousands of Iraqis.

Cindy Sheehan’s son was killed in that war. Focus on that fact, and forget everything else. Mrs. Sheehan herself offered some powerful words to Bush, in which she explained to Bush exactly what “hard work” is, since his entire life reveals that he doesn’t grasp the first thing about that phrase.

Cindy Sheehan’s son died in a war which even its most ardent supporters now admit was “optional.” Let me translate that: Casey Sheehan died for no good reason at all. His death had nothing to do with the defense of our country, and it did not happen because Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, which it did not. In that sense, Casey Sheehan’s was entirely unnatural—and it was the direct result of the disastrous and self-destructive course chosen by our president.

Think about the limitless, unending pain that comes from knowing that your son died for no good reason at all—that he is dead only because your president and his advisors would have their war, regardless of the facts, and that they would make other people, but never themselves or those they love so desperately, bear all its unbearable costs.

I will not here dissect the attacks on Mrs. Sheehan, because I consider all of that beside the point. You are free to state that you disagree with Mrs. Sheehan’s opposition to the war, and that you think she is completely wrong. That is indisputably your right. Because the issues are so important, I would expect no less—and I do not think Mrs. Sheehan expected less.

But if Bush’s supporters were decent at all, that is where they would stop. State your disagreement, and the reasons why her position is not yours. But beyond that: leave it alone. Leave Cindy Sheehan alone. You do not understand her grief or what it might impel her to do. God grant that you never have cause to understand it.

The entire post is here:
http://coldfury.com/reason/?p=850

It's long but worth it.

Posted by: Alishye at August 10, 2005 05:25 PM

Democracy Now intervied Cindy Sheehan too. The transcript is here:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/29/1434216

Posted by: Alishye at August 10, 2005 05:27 PM

Eileen in VT: These people are just brilliant.

If anybody want to support cindy here a Moveon.org link

http://political.moveon.org/meetwithcindy/?id=5886-5552922-4UPZIMjZd1XWs4cifKbmiw&t=4

Posted by: edfromned at August 10, 2005 05:34 PM

O'Reilly will claim he gave her a choice to speak her piece and she backed down... obviously because she's a treasonous Wiccan or something along those lines. Too bad the fucktard would have only shouted her down minutes before he goes on to a rampage about his moral superiority.

Posted by: Kid Hobo at August 10, 2005 05:35 PM

A young girl is missing and possibly dead in Aruba after participating in a school trip much like my high school and friends' high schools sponsor or encourage each year. I can't think of anything much more tragic than a girl missing during a senior trip, just when her future seems so promising. I am shocked that you would refer to her as the "missing white girl" or "Aruba girl" and ignore that not only one life hangs in the balance. Media coverage might just save another as the issues surrounding these trips with young kids and a chaperone are considered. Either way, a young girl is missing. Show some respect. Or just don't watch.

Posted by: Lindsay at August 10, 2005 05:36 PM

Lindsay, I think you're on the wrong thread. Try reading before you post.

On the Sheehan thing. I thought O'Reilly said she was supposed to be on last night. Why did they contact her this morning.

Posted by: john t at August 10, 2005 05:43 PM

The Cindy Sheehan Problem -- Editorial Cartoon
by Steve Bradenton:

http://www.buzzflash.com/bradenton/05/08/bra05046.html

Posted by: Alishye at August 10, 2005 05:44 PM

Jeez, Lindsee,

Glad you mentioned it, sooooo, okay, we'll all be on the lookout in NYC for Natalee Halloway from Alabama, who went on a school trip to Aruba! We all promise to stop discussing the THOUSANDS of people innocently killed by the LIES and policies of The Bubble and this administration!

GROW UP, sweetie, and when a guy buys you a drink, make sure he doesn't put any pills in it. That's what you should be worrying about!

Posted by: Liz PbD at August 10, 2005 05:45 PM

"If Bush was a man, nay, if Bush was half a man, he would walk out to where Cindy is and talk to her."

He could defuse this in about ten minutes, why won't he?

"Clear Channel is sponsoring an ANTI-Cindy Barbeque Rally" across the street from Cindy's camp on Saturday; and to topit off, they have found military to show up and say that they would be ashamed if their mother behaved that way."

Oh my lord, is this a local show's doing or what? Please let me know as I will organize a boycott of Clear Channel if it is corporate lead. "Ashamed if their mother behaved that way", well you'd be DEAD if nothing else. Your mother wouldn't have a little grief over you? If that had been my son you better believe I'd be handcuffing myself to the gate of the "Western Whitehouse".

Posted by: Robrob at August 10, 2005 05:45 PM

I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation.
-- As quoted shortly following 9/11 in "Bush at War" by Bob Woodward, Washington, D.C., Nov. 19, 2002

Posted by: majortom52k at August 10, 2005 05:49 PM

Liz PLEASE tell me that first meeting between Dubya the delinquent and the Sheehan family did not go as you stated?! That post quoting the conversation between Dubya and the Sheehans should be posted,word for word, in as many places possible so EVERYONE can read it!! That is horrific...too bad the oldest ( child now) didn't smack that smirking , smug piece of garbage President right across the face!!!!!!!!!!Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ken at August 10, 2005 05:53 PM

I don't understand why Cindy does not appear on O'Reilly. She should at least respond to the quotes attributed to her in the California newspaper were she thanked President Bush for giving her condolences for the loss of her son after his death.

If not on O'Reilly somewhere else.

Posted by: Chris at August 10, 2005 06:03 PM

I hope she goes away soon, she is boring me.

Besides, who would in their right mind meet with somebody that would freak out and have to be dragged away in the end anyway?

She should stop dishonoring her son.

Posted by: Bhutt Phuck at August 10, 2005 06:09 PM

Hey Bill, Michelle, Neil and all you other dickless losers around the Faux studio - show of hands. How many of you want to trade places with that misbehavin', left-wing extremist, propaganda tool Cindy Sheehan. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: MargieTexas at August 10, 2005 06:19 PM