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O'Reilly Distressed - Too Many Positive Stories About Illegals and Gays

Reported by Marie Therese - June 22, 2005

BILL O'REILLY, June 21, 2005: Impact segment tonight. As you know Governor Schwarzenegger was viciously attacked after he called for the Mexican border to be secured and in the Miami Herald some pinhead called CNN's Lou Dobbs and me, your humble correspondent, anti-Hispanic for wanting the borders secure as well. That's one tactic being used to keep the borders open, but there's another, more subtle one in play as well.

In the past few months at least 12 articles have appeared about students in this country illegally who have done very well academically. The articles appeared in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Houston Chronicle and other mainly progressive papers. In addition, the New York Times has run more than one hundred gay-related stories in the past six months - a hundred! - the majority very positive. So, what's goin' on? Joining us now from Washington is Charlotte Hays, veteran journalist and the Senior Editor of the Independent Women's Forum.

[COMMENT: From the Independent Women's Forum website:

"The Independent Women's Forum was established to combat the women-as-victim, pro-big-government ideology of radical feminism. We seek to restore, strengthen, and extend that which promotes women's well being by advancing the principles of self-reliance, political freedom, economic liberty, and personal responsibility."

"IWF is the essential, informed, articulate voice of thoughtful and caring mainstream women in the policy and media battles that shape our nation's future. While showing that we have both a head and heart, we promote voluntary, cooperative approaches to life's challenges that can brighten the future."

"IWF provides a voice for responsible, mainstream women who embrace common sense over divisive ideology. We make that voice heard in the U.S. Supreme Court, among other decision makers in Washington, and across America's airwaves as we:

* Counter the dangerous influence of radical feminism in the courts
* Combat corrosive feminist ideology on campus
* Change the terms of the debate on quality of life issues affecting American women"

The IWF Board of Directors includes Lynne Cheney (wife of V-P Dick Cheney, American Enterprise Institute), Larry Kudlow (CNBC, National Review); Kate O'Beirne (CNN, National Review), Midge Decter (Heritage Foundation) and Wendy L. Gramm (wife of former Sen. Phil Gramm, former Board Member, Enron Corporation). Bill's guest, Charlotte Hays writes the daily "Loose Cannon" column for Beliefnet.com on the topic of religion, spirituality and politics.]

O'REILLY: Let's take the border issue first. You know, around this time of graduation, you can just - it's like clockwork - the liberal papers come out with the valedictorian or somebody's done very well in school and say: See, don't be mean and send the illegals back. Here's Larry doin' something great. I mean, it's just so predictable.

HAYS: Well, Bill, I think the interesting thing about the valedictorian story is it also represents a kind of insularity on the part of the press, as if it's somehow more heinous to send back a valedictorian, somebody the press can identify with, than a kid who works at McDonalds, somebody the press certainly doesn't identify with.

O'REILLY: Yeah, but I don't see it that way. I just think that they are sayin': Oh, look, you know, they contribute to our society. This is a person who'll be a good American. And they're right. They're right. But, it's just, it's just the undercurrent of don't enforce the law - don't, ya' know. Let the illegals come here - they're helping rather hurting, which there, there's certainly a debatable issue. Now ...

HAYS: Well, I ..

O'REILLY: Go ahead.

HAYS: Well, I'm squishy on this. I hate it when somebody wants to be a good American and they work hard and they can't. What I don't like about these stories is they don't help somebody like me come to a position that's not squishy. For example, there was one story urging the state of New Jersey to change the tuition laws to accommodate illegals. The stories never explain to you what the impact will be on the state of New Jersey, so really it doesn't ...

O'REILLY (interrupts): I mean, it's all emotion-based.

HAYS: Yeah. It's ...

O'REILLY: Help the poor people. Leave the poor people alone. Why do you hate Hispanics, O'Reilly? You know. It's really low. Now, how d'ya, how d'ya gauge the hundred gay stories? The ombudsman - outgoing ombudsman - on the New York Times called that paper a cheerleader for gay marriage, but a hundred gay stories. I mean, what's goin' on?

HAYS: Well here's how I gauge it. These are sort of the best-educated, brightest reporters in America but they live in a cocoon. You had two gay stories that I saw Sunday. One was saying you can't tell gay males from straight males in certain very chi-chi parts of New York. And the other was, was about these people the reporters seemed to think of as bizarre Christians who were anti-gay marriage. Look, the problem here is that these people live in a cocoon. A New York Times reporter has never been to a cocktail party with someone who didn't believe in gay marriage. Let me say with someone who would admit he didn't believe in gay marriage. So, this story on the Christians ...

O'REILLY: Yeah. I mean, that's what it's all ...

HAYS: Yeah! A cocoon!

O'REILLY: But it's stealth reporting. It's stealth reporting.

HAYS: Absolutely.

O'REILLY: It's like pound it, pound it, pound it and make anybody who opposes gay marriage or illegal immigration to be mean, terrible people. And that's what they're doin', Miss Hays.

HAYS: Well, let me say something else, Bill. In the story in the Sunday paper the one by Russell Shorto that went to visit these bizarre Christians, it actually ended with a pleading that we would change our hearts and what that does is it, it says that the intellectual battle is decided. They're pro-gay marriage. And now there's just some bad old people who need to change their hearts.

O'REILLY: Right. Miss Hays, thanks very much. We appreciate it.

HAYS: Thank you.

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